Another Russian ship is on fire in the Black Sea

[C_Clayton_Jones]

My gosh, USMB is full of Pootin lovers.

USMB is full of conservatives.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Why are you giving these 2 overtly mentally ill patients air time?

Mentally ill for saying the Russians haven't maintained their military?Why Russia’s military is so shabby

Feeding the Bear: A Closer Look at Russian Army Logistics and the Fait Accompli - War on the Rocks

Editor's note: Don't miss our comprehensive guide to Russia's war against Ukraine. Russia’s military buildup along the border with Ukraine has

warontherocks.com

 

[JimH52]

Good.

Everyday, the Russian military is becoming weaker and weaker. Pootin is doing the job that US Intel has been trying to do for years. Thank you Vlad!

 

[JimH52]

USMB is full of conservatives.

And lots of MAGA Pootin Lovers!

 

[Zincwarrior]

And lots of MAGA Pootin Lovers!

Several paid russotrolls. Sunni Man as an example

 

[JimH52]

Several paid russotrolls. Sunni Man as an example

Maybe we can get Musk to come in and clean up all the paid trolls? Wait, he will be busy with Twitter, though.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Maybe we can get Musk to come in and clean up all the paid trolls? Wait, he will be busy with Twitter, though.

Nah, both Finland and Sweden are joining NATO. just the tears of failure from Putin are more than enough.

 

[Indeependent]

Mentally ill for saying the Russians haven't maintained their military?Why Russia’s military is so shabby

Feeding the Bear: A Closer Look at Russian Army Logistics and the Fait Accompli - War on the Rocks

Editor's note: Don't miss our comprehensive guide to Russia's war against Ukraine. Russia’s military buildup along the border with Ukraine has

warontherocks.com

For saying anyone who disagrees is sucking Putin dick.

 

[Zincwarrior]

For saying anyone who disagrees is sucking Putin dick.

Supporting a murderous dictator either way.

 

[Indeependent]

Supporting a murderous dictator either way.

By stating a probable fact?

 

[para bellum]

Your spin doesn't change the numbers....

That 600 ship navy is a brown water navy. Small patrol craft, landing crafts, corvettes, and auxiliaries. All of the large surface combatants are hopelessly outdated or undergoing refit. Most of the corvettes are obsolete Soviet era hulls. Russia doesn't build anything larger than a frigate, and very few of those.

The 4000 aircraft includes all fixed wing. Combat aircraft is about 660 (minus at least 25 lost in Ukraine).

Submarines and missiles get the budget money in Russia.

 

[Orangecat]

That 600 ship navy is a brown water navy. Small patrol craft, landing crafts, corvettes, and auxiliaries. All of the large surface combatants are hopelessly outdated or undergoing refit. Most of the corvettes are obsolete Soviet era hulls. Russia doesn't build anything larger than a frigate, and very few of those.

The 4000 aircraft includes all fixed wing. Combat aircraft is about 660 (minus at least 25 lost in Ukraine).

Submarines and missiles get the budget money in Russia.

I just posted the numbers as I found them. Do you agree with the OP that Russia will only have old nukes in its arsenal in a few months? That’s the context of the discussion, not the quality of the forces.

 

[Orangecat]

Supporting a murderous dictator either way.

How is stating published numbers supporting anything except truth?

 

[para bellum]

Nah, both Finland and Sweden are joining NATO. just the tears of failure from Putin are more than enough.

Finland also builds some nice tractors.

I just posted the numbers as I found them. Do you agree with the OP that Russia will only have old nukes in its arsenal in a few months? That’s the context of the discussion, not the quality of the forces.

No, not all of Russia's nukes will be old in a few months time- if "old" means beyond the planned service.

A lot of them may be outdated enough to have reduced yield or complete failure. We spend $20 Bn a year to maintain the nuclear stockpile, that's 1/3 of Russia's total military spending. We have equivalent strategic stockpiles in numbers, Russia has a lot more tactical-size nukes than the US.

From a "cost to maintain" and numbers perspective, I don't think they've kept pace on the sustainment side.

 

[para bellum]

In any case, talk of nuking Ukraine for not letting Russia win is just stupid. A nuclear weapons state cannot use a nuclear weapon against a non-nuclear state, especially one that it invaded out of aggression.

When the Azov hoards are burning down the Kremlin, maybe then we can talk...

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

And lots of MAGA Pootin Lovers!

Conservatives just can’t quit Putin.

 

[para bellum]

WRT the OP, it seems the logistics ship was not hit- or if it was, it was not damaged.

Interesting tidbit, the latest pictures show it with a Pantsir S-1 mobile AD system on the stern deck. The Russians have experimented with using ground based ADA systems on ships before, so this seems like an attempt to give the ship some self-protection capability when operating in the Snake Island AO.