9/11 Commission Report vs 9/11 NIST Report

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    The entire 9/11 Commission Report is a farse and nothing but a cover-up, as stated by the people directly involved with the 9/11 Commission Report. They were stonewalled from the FACTS and EVIDENCE by the Whitehouse and top CIA. They state they ended up with a report completely void of ANY facts.

    Many anti-truthers make the claim that the Commission Report did not get any "facts" wrong so there's nothing to contest...but the FACT of the matter is the 9/11 Commission Report is VOID OF ANY FACTS.
    .......So what could they get wrong if all the FACTS and EVIDENCE were hidden from them?.......

    Here are some disturbing statements from the very people involved in the 9/11 Commission Report and it is beyond me why a few people post full time on many message boards to defend and sway people from asking for a new investigation....



    The following paragraph is very compelling so I pasted it at the top...

    Co-Chair of the Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 and former Head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham:... "A U.S. government informant was the landlord to two of the hijackers for over a year, but the White House refused to let the 9/11 inquiry interview him."

    Here is a news link on it...
    Hijackers Lived With FBI Informant - CBS News



    9/11 COMMISSIONERS

    Co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton:... "The CIA and the White House obstructed our investigation".

    Co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission also said:... "The 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn't bother to tell the American people."

    Co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations.

    9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton:... "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right, the Commission was set up to fail, the people should keep asking questions about 9/11, the 9/11 debate should continue."

    9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey:... "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version, we didn't have access."

    9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer:... "We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting."

    9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: "It is a national scandal"; "This investigation is now compromised"; "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up".

    9/11 Commissioner John Lehman:... “We purposely put together a staff that had – in a way - conflicts of interest".

    Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission John Farmer who led the 9/11 staff's inquiry:... "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is not spin. This is not true."


    CONGRESS

    Co-Chair of the Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 and former Head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham:... "A U.S. government informant was the landlord to two of the hijackers for over a year, but the White House refused to let the 9/11 inquiry interview him."
    Hijackers Lived With FBI Informant - CBS News

    U.S. Senator Patrick Leahy:... "The two questions that the congress will not ask . . . is why did 9/11 happen on George Bush's watch when he had clear warnings that it was going to happen? Why did they allow it to happen?"

    Republican Congressman Ron Paul calls for a new 9/11 investigation and states:... "We see the 9/11 investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on"

    Democratic Congressman Dennis Kucinich:... "We aren't being told the truth about 9/11."

    Democratic Senator Mike Gravel:... "I support a new 9/11 investigation, we don't know the truth about 9/11."


    Republican Senator Lincoln Chaffee:..."A new 9/11 investigation is needed."


    U.S. Democratic Congressman Dan Hamburg:..."The U.S. government assisted in the 9/11 attacks, I think there was a lot of help from the inside."

    U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, and who served six years as the Chairman of the Military Research and Development Subcommittee Curt Weldon:..."The U.S. tracked hijackers before 9/11. I am open to hearing information about explosives in the Twin Towers, and open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job."

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    The NIST Report that explained the buildings collapses and was proclaimed by many Physicists, Scientists, Engineers, Architects, Professors, around the world to literally re-write physics.

    I can post MANY well documented, verifiable statements from those people too.

    The NIST Report was appointed to be headed by Bush's personal friend Frank Gayle who wrote the final report. The NIST investigation was told to explain the collapses without looking at the possibility of explosives. There were people who adamantly told Frank Gayle the NIST Report was flat out wrong and the Twin Towers should have easily stood.

    Here is a simple comprehensive example that depicts how the NIST investigation went when Bush appointed his personal friend to head the NIST Report and collapse investigation.

    The NIST investigation did NOT look at the possibility in explosives in the collapses....even though there are countless witnesses live on the news who heard many explosions.

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    The NIST Report has been revised a few times now over the years because of constant widespread criticism.

    Many physicists say it is impossible for the top floor of the World Trade Center buildings to fall straight down into its 47 vertical support columns and hit the ground almost as fast as a ball would if dropped right beside it.

    There are 47 vertical tree trunks in the core of the core of the World Trade Center Towers that run from bedrock to the top floor that are welded all the way up fusing them to be one solid vertical column each.

    The only way the top floor in each building can fall straight down through its vertical support columns and hit the ground with collapse speeds almost as fast as the acceleration of gravity is if something is removing the columns out of resistance all the way down.

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    of the debunking propaganda addressed the removal of the core VERTICAL columns ALL THE WAY DOWN that run from bedrock to the top floor, to let the top floor of the building fall right through them hitting the ground almost as fast as a ball would if dropped right beside it.
     
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    I put together detailed and comprehensive information that will show what a farse it was all the while setting a mood or atmosphere of "what makes people want to believe".

    It was basically a "magic show" tactic with psychological propaganda.

    At least thay admitted 1/3 of Americans think 9/11 was an inside job.....by the way which is likely a much higher number now...

    Can you believe they start off with some propaganda BS right off the bat that 50% of all Americans in 1941, right after it happened, thought Pearl Harbor was intentionally allowed to happen by the government?

    I know I never thought that and where did they get those bogus numbers to start their propaganda piece?

    Don't you find it a bit odd that our government now resorts to television propaganda to try and sway people instead of having new official investigations?
     
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    They place a 1/2" thick horizontal metal beam over the fire with no fireproofing and the same alleged heat. Not only is this a farse because it was NOT placed vertical like the actual support columns....but it was only 1/2" thick compared to the actual vertical core columns that are up to 4.91" thick........that somehow cut themselves and blew out of the way fast enough all the way down so the top floor of each building would hit the ground almost as fast as a ball would if dropped right beside them.

    We will get more into how much fireproofing could have been lost and what sides, areas, etc later.

    This has nothing to do with the 47 tree trunks, vertical support columns that run from bedrock to the top floor which are welded together fusing them to be one tree trunk each or 47 tree trunks all the way up.

    The horizontal beam they heat up could only represent a tree branch, floor truss on the perimeter of the core columns.

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    They have this same demolition "expert" on every debunking propaganda...

    He portrays the dinosaur methods of controlled demolition using dynamite, one of the oldest forms of explosives ever made. There are now countless forms of explosives that have been developed and they play dumb using dynamite with miles of wires. This method of demolition may be more cost economical when bidding demolition contracts instead of using exotic explosives...but don't play it off as the ONLY type of explosives EVER developed.

    They play it out like the ONLY way to use explosives is with miles of wires. So your telling me that the cave dwellers in Afghanistan, Iraq etc are more advance than our best military technology when they can use a cell phone wireless signal to detonate bombs? With todays wireless technology they play it out like there MUST have been some evidence of wires.

    They clear out the entire floor of the building to show what it's like when controlled demolition explosives go off. This produces thunderous loud bangs trying to prove what it should have sounded like if explosives were used in the WTC buildings.

    All the vertical support columns were in the core of the WTC buildings and the outer shell would actually act like a muffler keeping decibels way down. Like the difference on how loud your car before or after the muffler falls off.
    Or the difference how loud a gun is with or without a silencer...etc.

    I have thoroughly researched controlled demolitions and it is far different than the dinosaur method the debunking propaganda portrays.

    There has been extensive research developments on controlled demolition methods. These are in areas of controlling sound decibels, ground vibration, and even controlling horizontal direction of debris. This is to prevent damaging nearby buildings windows by keeping sound decibels down and protect underground pipes by keeping ground vibrations down.

    This is accomplished by using many smaller explosives that produce a harmonic rumbling sound and not the loud bangs with fewer larger explosives.

    I distincly recall seeing episodes on the learning channels like 15yrs ago where they were showing new technology. One of the things I seen was where they put only one droplet of a substance on an ink pen that was powerful enough so when someone clicked it would have blown their head off. It was liquid form and dried.

    I really love the part where they use 5/8" thick cement board which is used for tile backing and call it a scaled down pentagon wall and fire a 500 mile an hour projectile through it...LOL

    I really love how they use a lb. of explosives on the whole cement board apparatus and blow the whole thing to smithereens and portray it like another segment of the scaled down experiment...OMFG!!!

    They kept showing footage of flight 93 crashsite where there was no sign of a plane and I was really looking forward to hearing that part but they didn't address it.

    So why did they try and portray it like those are the only types of explosives available (first type invented) and there have been no further developments in explosives and wireless technology?

    There is technology to wireless control several Unmanned Planes with various flight paths and destinations now completely automated with computers but this doesn't cross over to controlling explosives?
     
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    Wow...you should do something about all that.
     
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    Do you get paid by the post or something?

    Is that your cut-n-paste phrase when you can't contribute anything intellectual?

    What is sad is great people are trying to keep America great and people like you would still get to enjoy the reward's.
     
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    There are many people now who believe the U.S. intelligence lured the hijackers onto the planes and remote flying controlled their hitting specific targets and Building 7 where Rudy's "Treefort" was built on the 23rd floor was the cockpit for 9/11.

    A German Defense Minister even said that WTC 7 was used to orchestrate 9/11 and then was destroyed due to evidence.

    This story seems to coincide with that posted by a Chinese Guy.

    Here is a quote from a Chinese guy on another forum who started a thread titled: al Queda is U.S. Puppet

     
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    A German guy and a Chinese guy...is that the beginning of a joke or something?

    You should do something about that...finish the joke by posting something else.

     
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    cuntycorn is racist
     

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