Zelensky says no peace deal without Kyviv

I agree

If the Euro’s reject the trump compromise ( and we dont know the details yet ) they risk having the US drop the entire war in their lap

And I dont think they can handle that
Agree. There's no indication the Euro's have any intention of funding an endless war and no indication they will send armies to fight.
 
I agree

If the Euro’s reject the trump compromise ( and we dont know the details yet ) they risk having the US drop the entire war in their lap

And I dont think they can handle that
The Europeans have little choice, they were relying on us to do the heavy lifting, as they always do. They are little more than an albatross around our neck. They will throw Zelensky under the bus, there is no popular support to put troops on the ground in any of those countries.
 
Agree. There's no indication the Euro's have any intention of funding an endless war and no indication they will send armies to fight.
I dont think the euros know what they want or plan to do about it
 
I thought so too

But now I’m not so sure

The russian people have an incredible tolerance for pain and suffering

And Russia has extensive natural resources and agricultural lands.

Where is their economic weak point?
 
Total incompetence thanks to corruption

Thanks to wishful thinking.

They see the Russian public being as soft as their public.

You have two Slavic countries with a history of suffering massive losses of population fighting each other.

The only ones who get it are the Eastern Europeans, which is why Poland is arming itself up.
 
Ukraine is not gonna get back 2014 borders. Everybody knew that, even the Biden administration if a peace deal was struck. I gave the Ukrainian people great kudos even the US leaders, and the Biden administration didn’t figure they would last more than a week when the invasion started. They stepped up fought as hard as they could until people like us started giving them assistance. Reality is they’re at a standstill at best, Russia probably still has the upper hand and will continue to grind this and will likely for years if not another decade plus if it’s not somehow stopped. If a peace is reached, I agree that this is on Europe to be main support for the Ukraine going forward.I am tired of my tax dollars and American soldiers supplementing their militaries and incomes.
 
Another reason for trump to get the best deal possible
Not wasting our money there is a good deal. The situation on the ground really doesn't give us any leverage. The Russians have been advancing steadily for months.
 
Not wasting our money there is a good deal. The situation on the ground really doesn't give us any leverage. The Russians have been advancing steadily for months.
We need to rebuild our own military
 
Zelensky lost January 20th
Democrats are spreading lies. I watched this AM where the EU stated it is a process and they are included. Zelensky is included. Zelensky does not have to work against his own country. Trump knows if he helps Putin, America will hate his guts.
 
Not wasting our money there is a good deal. The situation on the ground really doesn't give us any leverage. The Russians have been advancing steadily for months.
Russia must forfeit all gains.
 
Not wasting our money there is a good deal. The situation on the ground really doesn't give us any leverage. The Russians have been advancing steadily for months.
Russia must forfeit all gains.
 
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And how does that happen without massive NATO intervention?

it happens with US suAnd Splo Ukraine.

Russia is bleeding dry. All thst needs to be done is to keep th Russians from consolidating their holdings.
Trump’s duplicity gives them a get out of trouble free card.
 
Ukraine has no value to us. It isn't Russian tanks and planes that threaten the US, it's hypersonic missiles and ICBMs. There is no need for us to be in Europe at all.

you’re right. Go back to Moscow, where you came from!
 
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