Zelensky says no peace deal without Kyviv

[Mac-7]

Ukraine has tremendous value
They are a buffer to NATO countries from Putin expansion

More importantly they are depleting Russian military manpower, tanks, helicopters, planes, their Black Sea fleet
They also identify weaknesses in Russian tactics and how to attack them

I want to see Ukraine win the war snd push russia back to pre-2020 borders

But that is not happening

 

[Rogue AI]

Ukraine has tremendous value
They are a buffer to NATO countries from Putin expansion

More importantly they are depleting Russian military manpower, tanks, helicopters, planes, their Black Sea fleet
They also identify weaknesses in Russian tactics and how to attack them

Ukraine has no value to us. It isn't Russian tanks and planes that threaten the US, it's hypersonic missiles and ICBMs. There is no need for us to be in Europe at all.

 

[martybegan]

I want to see Ukraine win the war snd push russia back to pre-2020 borders

But that is not happening

Hell pre 2014 borders.

But really not happening.

Unless NATO enters Ukraine and pushes the Russian forces out. For those on the left, is that what you want?

 

[TNHarley]

Aid to Ukraine was in the form of military hardware and humanitarian supplies

Like paying peoples pensions and subsidizing businesses. Yeah.

 

[bendog]

For some reason, Trump attacks Canada and Mexico while handing Putin part of Ukraine without demanding anything in return

What happened to the US saving ukraine for 5 Billion in rare minerals? That sounded like a trump like transactional deal.

 

[Mac-7]

Hell pre 2014 borders.

But really not happening.

Unless NATO enters Ukraine and pushes the Russian forces out. For those on the left, is that what you want?

I dont think we will get a straight answer from from them

 

[rightwinger]

Like paying peoples pensions and subsidizing businesses. Yeah.

Link

 

[JimH52]

There was a chance to stop this war with a draw that could have been presented as a victory for the Biden administration. But those inept bureaucrats fucked this chance up. It is a time to stop this stupid Biden's war.

Fact: Poootin unprovoked attacked Ukraine. Fact: trump will screw Ukraine to satisfy Poootin

 

[rightwinger]

Hell pre 2014 borders.

But really not happening.

Unless NATO enters Ukraine and pushes the Russian forces out. For those on the left, is that what you want?

I want Putin to pay a price for his unwarranted invasion.
I want Ukraine to receive absolute security from the west in return for surrendering territory.
I want assurances that Putin will not use this pause to rebuild his forces and attack again

Trump is making no demands of Putin

 

[JimH52]

What happened to the US saving ukraine for 5 Billion in rare minerals? That sounded like a trump like transactional deal.

Poootin sent trump a message
..that won't work. Poootin wants Ukraine.

 

[JimH52]

Link

Just another MAGA lie.

 

[Rogue AI]

Poootin sent trump a message
..that won't work. Poootin wants Ukraine.

More like the minerals in question were either in Russian territory or would need to be developed from scratch. Any benefit would cost millions and take years before seeing even one ounce of return.

 

[martybegan]

I want Putin to pay a price for his unwarranted invasion.
I want Ukraine to receive absolute security from the west in return for surrendering territory.
I want assurances that Putin will not use this pause to rebuild his forces and attack again

Trump is making no demands of Putin

Trump has just said they are going to open talks.

 

[MarathonMike]

https://www.reuters.com/world/eu-warns-against-dirty-deal-ukraine-after-trump-putin-phone-call-2025-02-13/

Sorry. Z...Putin has his tool in charge now. trump is going to throw you under the bus so that he can look good. trump cannot be trusted. He is a criminal.

Jim52 is war-monger Democrat who wants another pointless forever war. Little Zelensky needs to stop with the US funded slaughter of Ukranian and Russian Soldiers. President Trump will make the carnage end. Democrats are furious.

 

[Mac-7]

I want Putin to pay a price for his unwarranted invasion.
I want Ukraine to receive absolute security from the west in return for surrendering territory.
I want assurances that Putin will not use this pause to rebuild his forces and attack again

Trump is making no demands of Putin

Trump is making no demands of Putin

What sort of demands ?

 

[TimFitz]

Zelensky lost January 20th

And just like that, a xenophobic Trumpster announces support for betrayal, and supports the deaths of hundreds of thousands, the gulags, the reprisals, and the eventual Russian move to take the rest of Ukraine.

All because your beloved fuhrer has no balls.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump has just said they are going to open talks.

And from what he is saying now, he is selling out Ukraine

 

[lg325]

And how does that happen without massive NATO intervention?

What's needed is hopefully a non-military approach. I am not sure if it is Possible but isolating the Russian government with economic sanctions by all nations to get them to the negotiating table. Maybe giving them a free access to the Mediterranean sea would be on the table.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

And just like that, a xenophobic Trumpster announces support for betrayal, and supports the deaths of hundreds of thousands, the gulags, the reprisals, and the eventual Russian move to take the rest of Ukraine.

All because your beloved fuhrer has no balls.

Unfortunately for you I'm no Trump supporter, I voted for him because he was the lesser of two evils

But it looks like I voted correct

Now go pound sand or you nether region

 

[Mac-7]

And just like that, a xenophobic Trumpster announces support for betrayal, and supports the deaths of hundreds of thousands, the gulags, the reprisals, and the eventual Russian move to take the rest of Ukraine.

All because your beloved fuhrer has no balls.

What demands should trump make to Putin?