Zelensky says no peace deal without Kyviv

For some reason, Trump attacks Canada and Mexico while handing Putin part of Ukraine without demanding anything in return
Where do you get the idea that Trump handed Putin part of Ukraine without demanding anything in return?
 
Fact: Poootin unprovoked attacked Ukraine. Fact: trump will screw Ukraine to satisfy Poootin
What happened? Just a minute ago you were boisterous and threatening to give Putin a whooping of his lifetime, with Ukies reportedly raising hell all over the front line and now he's the lord of the rings and Trump reaming Z all of a sudden? Wasn't Hohlostan to be given whatever it takes to overcome the Soviets and reclaim Crimea and shit? And to think, the poor suckers believed you.
 
Hell pre 2014 borders.

But really not happening.

Unless NATO enters Ukraine and pushes the Russian forces out. For those on the left, is that what you want?
The euros have no workable plan to win the war
 
Commerce with Russia is something in return for many US businesses. Contrary to idiotic liberal belief, Russia produces many products and offers many resources, these ineffective sanctions have only damaged international trade.

Russian troll alert!
 
I want Putin to pay a price for his unwarranted invasion.
I want Ukraine to receive absolute security from the west in return for surrendering territory.
I want assurances that Putin will not use this pause to rebuild his forces and attack again

Trump is making no demands of Putin

I remember when you criticized Weak Worthless *Joe for the same thing.
 
The euros have no workable plan to win the war

They think Russia will collapse but that hasn't happened yet.

They assume the Russian people will rise up somehow.
 
They think Russia will collapse but that hasn't happened yet.

They assume the Russian people will rise up somehow.
I thought so too

But now I’m not so sure

The russian people have an incredible tolerance for pain and suffering
 
I disagree

Because I dont think putin is finished recreating the old Soviet Union

An expansionist russia is bad for the US but even worse for the Euros who need to do more
Sounds like a European problem. The lines on the maps of Europe have no bearing on the lives of Americans. We have our own problems to deal with.
 
 
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Sounds like a European problem. The lines on the maps of Europe have no bearing on the lives of Americans. We have our own problems to deal with.
I agree

If the Euro’s reject the trump compromise ( and we dont know the details yet ) they risk having the US drop the entire war in their lap

And I dont think they can handle that
 
They think Russia will collapse but that hasn't happened yet.

They assume the Russian people will rise up somehow.
Aha! To please the European degenerates. Just waiting for the pigs to start flying.
 
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