Zelensky says no peace deal without Kyviv

Russia must forfeit all gains.
No reasonable person thinks that’s gonna happen. So the choice is continued war and death until one side loses which I’m thinking probably Ukraine or they have to come up with some kind of peace deal.
 
More of your conspiracy theory babbling.

You don’t have anything to say, and you can’t actually defend your fuhrer’s duplicity and cowardice.

You’ve made all of that clear.
 
Ukraine is a made-up country, created by N. Kruschev to add one more UN vote for the Soviet Union.

Parts of Ukraine contain Russian ethnic majorities, who would rather pay allegiance to Russia than Ukraine. The final settlement will undoubtedly allot some of that territory to the Russian Federation, but will keep Ukraine as a separate sovereign state.

The bigger questions are, who is going to pay for the rebuilding of Ukraine? Will its population return? How will the U.S. be compensated for its billions in support over the past couple years? Will there ever be a meaningful audit of those funds, and will the corrupt Ukraine officials be prosecuted in any meaningful way?

Let's stop the killing first, then deal with all that other shit.
 
Agree. There's no indication the Euro's have any intention of funding an endless war and no indication they will send armies to fight.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. You just make it up and pretend it’s fact.

Which, of course, it is not.


 
You don’t have anything to say, and you can’t actually defend your fuhrer’s duplicity and cowardice.

You’ve made all of that clear.

All you have to offer are goofy, leftist slogans you cut and paste from leftist media.

Go to your cry corner.
 
You have no idea what you’re talking about. You just make it up and pretend it’s fact.

Which, of course, it is not.



You confuse mindless cutting and pasting with actual analysis. Cut and paste for us something to show the Euro's will continue to throw money at Ukraine
 
it happens with US suAnd Splo Ukraine.

Russia is bleeding dry. All thst needs to be done is to keep th Russians from consolidating their holdings.
Trump’s duplicity gives them a get out of trouble free card.

Russia isn't bleeding dry.

How long should Ukraine keep up with the Stalemate?
 
Ukraine is a made-up country, created by N. Kruschev to add one more UN vote for the Soviet Union.

Parts of Ukraine contain Russian ethnic majorities, who would rather pay allegiance to Russia than Ukraine. The final settlement will undoubtedly allot some of that territory to the Russian Federation, but will keep Ukraine as a separate sovereign state.

The bigger questions are, who is going to pay for the rebuilding of Ukraine? Will its population return? How will the U.S. be compensated for its billions in support over the past couple years? Will there ever be a meaningful audit of those funds, and will the corrupt Ukraine officials be prosecuted in any meaningful way?

Let's stop the killing first, then deal with all that other shit.

That is straight out of Moscow. The Russian propoganda line from start to finish.

“Parts of Ukraine contain Russian ethnic majorities, who would rather pay allegiance to Russia than Ukraine”

That too, is a Russian false claim. When the Russians invaded, no one in these areas rose up in support or greeted them as liberators.

Ukraine as a separate entity existed for centuries befor Kruschev was even born. Thst too is a Russian lie.

The bigger question is up to Ukraine. it’s their country.
 
You confuse mindless cutting and pasting with actual analysis. Cut and paste for us something to show the Euro's will continue to throw money at Ukraine

Don’t even begin to pretend that you are even capable of “actual qnalysis”

You never do any.

It’s just memes and trashy put downs. no nothing stuff.

You have no idea what you’re talking about, but you are entirely devoted to your beloved fuhrer.

This time trump cultists can’t actually defend their fuhrer’s cowardice and duplicity, so you try and wish it away and label it “conspiracy theories”. A transparent admission that you have no argument of any sort.

Turump is betraying Ukraine, and in the process, the legacy of American world leadership since 1941.

That’s what you’re making excuses for.

Duplicity and disgrace.
 
Ukraine has tremendous value
They are a buffer to NATO countries from Putin expansion

More importantly they are depleting Russian military manpower, tanks, helicopters, planes, their Black Sea fleet
They also identify weaknesses in Russian tactics and how to attack them
Who is going to rebuild them? Lots of destruction.
 
You confuse mindless cutting and pasting with actual analysis. Cut and paste for us something to show the Euro's will continue to throw money at Ukraine

I already did.
 
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Don’t even begin to pretend that you are even capable of “actual qnalysis”

You never do any.

It’s just memes and trashy put downs. no nothing stuff.

You have no idea what you’re talking about, but you are entirely devoted to your beloved fuhrer.

This time trump cultists can’t actually defend their fuhrer’s cowardice and duplicity, so you try and wish it away and label it “conspiracy theories”. A transparent admission that you have no argument of any sort.

Turump is betraying Ukraine, and in the process, the legacy of American world leadership since 1941.

That’s what you’re making excuses for.

Duplicity and disgrace.

But at a pretty rough cost. It's a stalemate in all sense of the word. Neither side can achieve it's victory goals.
 
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