Would you support Jeb Bush for president in 2016?

[S.J.]

The "one-liners" in this place remind me of visitng a mental institution and trying to communicate with the patients. Do you people ever clarify or expand your remarks?

In other words, you have no fucking proof. How about if YOU clarify or expand YOUR remarks, since YOU'RE the one who made the slanderous charge?

Sometimes when there is a high degree of reliable, circumstantial evidence it's enough:

In April 1972, the military started including routine drug tests in servicemen's annual physical exam, including urinalysis, questions about drugs and "a close examination of the nasal cavities" (for cocaine). According to the regulation, the medical took place in the month after the serviceman's birthday. For George W. Bush, this meant August 1972.

It was May, 1972 -- one month after the drug testing was announced -- that Bush stopped attending Guard duty. In August 1972, he was suspended from flight duty for failing to take his physical. (see the document below) A Bush campaign spokesman confirmed to the London Sunday Times that Bush knew he would be suspended. "He knew the suspension would have to take place." Bush never flew again, even though he returned to his Houston base where Guard pilots flew thousands of hours in the F-102 during 1973. The only barrier to him flying again was a medical exam (and his lack of attendance).

Some readers will recall that when George Bush issued his partial denial of drug use, he said (or implied) that he hadn't used them since 1974, but he pointedly refused to deny drug use before then, i.e. during his military service. Several sources have also indicated that it was in December, 1972 -- 4 months after his medical suspension -- that a drunk Bush Jr. challenged his father to a fist fight during an argument over the son's drunk driving. (He had run over a neighbor's garbage cans.) Shortly thereafter, Bush Sr. arranged for his son to do community service at an inner city Houston charity.

Bush's campaign aides first said he did not take the physical because he was in Alabama and his personal physician was in Houston. But flight physicals can be administered only by certified Air Force flight surgeons, and some were assigned at the time to Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery, where Bush was living. The staff later admitted that this explanation was wrong:

That's your proof? He failed to take his physical, so you conclude he was a cocaine addict and state it as fact? That's not proof, that's slander.

 

[Melvin01]

In other words, you have no fucking proof. How about if YOU clarify or expand YOUR remarks, since YOU'RE the one who made the slanderous charge?

Sometimes when there is a high degree of reliable, circumstantial evidence it's enough:

In April 1972, the military started including routine drug tests in servicemen's annual physical exam, including urinalysis, questions about drugs and "a close examination of the nasal cavities" (for cocaine). According to the regulation, the medical took place in the month after the serviceman's birthday. For George W. Bush, this meant August 1972.

It was May, 1972 -- one month after the drug testing was announced -- that Bush stopped attending Guard duty. In August 1972, he was suspended from flight duty for failing to take his physical. (see the document below) A Bush campaign spokesman confirmed to the London Sunday Times that Bush knew he would be suspended. "He knew the suspension would have to take place." Bush never flew again, even though he returned to his Houston base where Guard pilots flew thousands of hours in the F-102 during 1973. The only barrier to him flying again was a medical exam (and his lack of attendance).

Some readers will recall that when George Bush issued his partial denial of drug use, he said (or implied) that he hadn't used them since 1974, but he pointedly refused to deny drug use before then, i.e. during his military service. Several sources have also indicated that it was in December, 1972 -- 4 months after his medical suspension -- that a drunk Bush Jr. challenged his father to a fist fight during an argument over the son's drunk driving. (He had run over a neighbor's garbage cans.) Shortly thereafter, Bush Sr. arranged for his son to do community service at an inner city Houston charity.

Bush's campaign aides first said he did not take the physical because he was in Alabama and his personal physician was in Houston. But flight physicals can be administered only by certified Air Force flight surgeons, and some were assigned at the time to Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery, where Bush was living. The staff later admitted that this explanation was wrong:

That's your proof? He failed to take his physical, so you conclude he was a cocaine addict and state it as fact? That's not proof, that's slander.

You never read anything. After the military had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars teaching him to fly when they started testing for all drugs he just flat refused to take the tests and they suspended him. How in the name of goodness can anybody who has one eye and half sense fail to see that unless a man had something to hide he wouldn't give up the right to fly jets and get suspended over a drug test? Are you nuts?

 

[S.J.]

Sometimes when there is a high degree of reliable, circumstantial evidence it's enough:

In April 1972, the military started including routine drug tests in servicemen's annual physical exam, including urinalysis, questions about drugs and "a close examination of the nasal cavities" (for cocaine). According to the regulation, the medical took place in the month after the serviceman's birthday. For George W. Bush, this meant August 1972.

It was May, 1972 -- one month after the drug testing was announced -- that Bush stopped attending Guard duty. In August 1972, he was suspended from flight duty for failing to take his physical. (see the document below) A Bush campaign spokesman confirmed to the London Sunday Times that Bush knew he would be suspended. "He knew the suspension would have to take place." Bush never flew again, even though he returned to his Houston base where Guard pilots flew thousands of hours in the F-102 during 1973. The only barrier to him flying again was a medical exam (and his lack of attendance).

Some readers will recall that when George Bush issued his partial denial of drug use, he said (or implied) that he hadn't used them since 1974, but he pointedly refused to deny drug use before then, i.e. during his military service. Several sources have also indicated that it was in December, 1972 -- 4 months after his medical suspension -- that a drunk Bush Jr. challenged his father to a fist fight during an argument over the son's drunk driving. (He had run over a neighbor's garbage cans.) Shortly thereafter, Bush Sr. arranged for his son to do community service at an inner city Houston charity.

Bush's campaign aides first said he did not take the physical because he was in Alabama and his personal physician was in Houston. But flight physicals can be administered only by certified Air Force flight surgeons, and some were assigned at the time to Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery, where Bush was living. The staff later admitted that this explanation was wrong:

That's your proof? He failed to take his physical, so you conclude he was a cocaine addict and state it as fact? That's not proof, that's slander.

You never read anything. After the military had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars teaching him to fly when they started testing for all drugs he just flat refused to take the tests and they suspended him. How in the name of goodness can anybody who has one eye and half sense fail to see that unless a man had something to hide he wouldn't give up the right to fly jets and get suspended over a drug test? Are you nuts?

Speculation on your part, nothing more.

 

[Melvin01]

That's your proof? He failed to take his physical, so you conclude he was a cocaine addict and state it as fact? That's not proof, that's slander.

You never read anything. After the military had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars teaching him to fly when they started testing for all drugs he just flat refused to take the tests and they suspended him. How in the name of goodness can anybody who has one eye and half sense fail to see that unless a man had something to hide he wouldn't give up the right to fly jets and get suspended over a drug test? Are you nuts?

Speculation on your part, nothing more.

How are you on his drunken fistfight with George Sr. I'll be you don't believe that either. What about the time he was caught drunk driving and then when elected governor of Texas applied for and received new, clean driver's licenses for he and Mrs Bush too. They said it was the first time anything like that had ever happened in the state. These stories weren't just told by someone who didn't like him. They were in the newspapers. The C average cheerleader and toy cowboy always cheated at everything he did:

 

[S.J.]

You never read anything. After the military had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars teaching him to fly when they started testing for all drugs he just flat refused to take the tests and they suspended him. How in the name of goodness can anybody who has one eye and half sense fail to see that unless a man had something to hide he wouldn't give up the right to fly jets and get suspended over a drug test? Are you nuts?

Speculation on your part, nothing more.

How are you on his drunken fistfight with George Sr. I'll be you don't believe that either. What about the time he was caught drunk driving and then when elected governor of Texas applied for and received new, clean driver's licenses for he and Mrs Bush too. They said it was the first time anything like that had ever happened in the state. These stories weren't just told by someone who didn't like him. They were in the newspapers. The C average cheerleader and toy cowboy always cheated at everything he did:

You lost the argument so you changed the subject. Be a man and admit your defeat. Now, show some proof on the drunken fist fight.
And this one's funny:

These stories weren't just told by someone who didn't like him. They were in the newspapers.

 

[Melvin01]

Speculation on your part, nothing more.

How are you on his drunken fistfight with George Sr. I'll be you don't believe that either. What about the time he was caught drunk driving and then when elected governor of Texas applied for and received new, clean driver's licenses for he and Mrs Bush too. They said it was the first time anything like that had ever happened in the state. These stories weren't just told by someone who didn't like him. They were in the newspapers. The C average cheerleader and toy cowboy always cheated at everything he did:

You lost the argument so you changed the subject. Be a man and admit your defeat. Now, show some proof on the drunken fist fight.
And this one's funny:

These stories weren't just told by someone who didn't like him. They were in the newspapers.

I lost the argument?? Sonny boy either you can't read or you've got your head so far up your ass you'll never see daylight again.

 

[Ernie S.]

Would you support Jeb Bush for president in 2016
Over any Liberal who gets the Democrats nomination? Of course.

 

[Ernie S.]

Sometimes when there is a high degree of reliable, circumstantial evidence it's enough:

In April 1972, the military started including routine drug tests in servicemen's annual physical exam, including urinalysis, questions about drugs and "a close examination of the nasal cavities" (for cocaine). According to the regulation, the medical took place in the month after the serviceman's birthday. For George W. Bush, this meant August 1972.

It was May, 1972 -- one month after the drug testing was announced -- that Bush stopped attending Guard duty. In August 1972, he was suspended from flight duty for failing to take his physical. (see the document below) A Bush campaign spokesman confirmed to the London Sunday Times that Bush knew he would be suspended. "He knew the suspension would have to take place." Bush never flew again, even though he returned to his Houston base where Guard pilots flew thousands of hours in the F-102 during 1973. The only barrier to him flying again was a medical exam (and his lack of attendance).

Some readers will recall that when George Bush issued his partial denial of drug use, he said (or implied) that he hadn't used them since 1974, but he pointedly refused to deny drug use before then, i.e. during his military service. Several sources have also indicated that it was in December, 1972 -- 4 months after his medical suspension -- that a drunk Bush Jr. challenged his father to a fist fight during an argument over the son's drunk driving. (He had run over a neighbor's garbage cans.) Shortly thereafter, Bush Sr. arranged for his son to do community service at an inner city Houston charity.

Bush's campaign aides first said he did not take the physical because he was in Alabama and his personal physician was in Houston. But flight physicals can be administered only by certified Air Force flight surgeons, and some were assigned at the time to Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery, where Bush was living. The staff later admitted that this explanation was wrong:

That's your proof? He failed to take his physical, so you conclude he was a cocaine addict and state it as fact? That's not proof, that's slander.

You never read anything. After the military had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars teaching him to fly when they started testing for all drugs he just flat refused to take the tests and they suspended him. How in the name of goodness can anybody who has one eye and half sense fail to see that unless a man had something to hide he wouldn't give up the right to fly jets and get suspended over a drug test? Are you nuts?

So he's automatically a drug user, but when his brother tried to get mandatory drug tests for welfare recipients it was a violation of their right to privacy. Can't have it both ways, son.

 

[Melvin01]

Would you support Jeb Bush for president in 2016
Over any Liberal who gets the Democrats nomination? Of course.

Does one say Madame President or Ms President.

Only Fox News is foolish enough to project Jeb Bush for anything. Let's see weren't they the ones who missed the last one so bad that they fired their best two prognosticators? LMAO!

 

[ABikerSailor]

Jeb Bush has already started the flip flop process. Wonder how far right wing he's gonna go over the next couple of years in a bid to court the base?

If he is the GOP candidate, and Hillary runs against him, it's gonna make the victory Obama had over Mittens look like it was close.

 

[Ernie S.]

Would you support Jeb Bush for president in 2016
Over any Liberal who gets the Democrats nomination? Of course.

Does one say Madame President or Ms President.

Only Fox News is foolish enough to project Jeb Bush for anything. Let's see weren't they the ones who missed the last one so bad that they fired their best two prognosticators? LMAO!

I doubt we'll be calling hillary clinton anything other than "former Senator clinton after 11/2016. Frankly, I'll be surprised if she is physically able to finish her Senate term.
Is Jeb Bush my first choice? Hell no, but he's head and shoulders above any Democrat the Left might put up.

 

[Ernie S.]

Jeb Bush has already started the flip flop process. Wonder how far right wing he's gonna go over the next couple of years in a bid to court the base?

If he is the GOP candidate, and Hillary runs against him, it's gonna make the victory Obama had over Mittens look like it was close.

Clinton will not run.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Jeb Bush has already started the flip flop process. Wonder how far right wing he's gonna go over the next couple of years in a bid to court the base?

If he is the GOP candidate, and Hillary runs against him, it's gonna make the victory Obama had over Mittens look like it was close.

Clinton will not run.

Don't be so sure.............maybe she's quitting the State Dept to take a rest so she can gear up for 2016.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Where is the I DONT KNOW YET option in the poll?

Dumbass

 

[Political Junky]

Jeb has flip-flopped all over the place on immigration. Does he think that worked for Willard?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Jeb has flip-flopped all over the place on immigration. Does he think that worked for Willard?

You may or may not be right but im guessing most of the public know nothing about him beyond his name.

We just had an election 3 months ago.

This thread is beyond stupid.

 

[Borillar]

Just say no to nepotism. No more Bushes. No more Clintons.

 

[Melvin01]

Jeb Bush has already started the flip flop process. Wonder how far right wing he's gonna go over the next couple of years in a bid to court the base?

If he is the GOP candidate, and Hillary runs against him, it's gonna make the victory Obama had over Mittens look like it was close.

Yep but you can bet Fox News will be predicting a Republican victory right up till they start counting the votes..

 

[Lakhota]

The more I listen to Jeb Bush - the more I question whether he is the "smart" brother.

 

[ABikerSailor]

The more I listen to Jeb Bush - the more I question whether he is the "smart" brother.

Agreed.