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they know perfectly well who they are voting for and support, have been since their 1st bible of forgeries and fallacies was written to the present day -
bringing them to justice is the only way for the true religion of antiquity to fulfill the heavenly goal granted humanity and avenue to the everlasting.
Yes the epitome of and descendant of the Nachash, the talking serpent in the story of A&E.
Just one simple question.
Why do you always cite the story of A&E if it is, as you claim, a bible of forgeries?
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And how would you bring them to justice? Is your solution still like you've said, execution?
?Wouldn't that make you a crucifier inspired by a forgery?
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Like I said, the Jewish people have always been right to refuse to believe in and dismiss out of hand your counterfeit ascetic Jesus that you claim was a supernatural mangod a perfect human sacrifice THE JEWISH MESSIAH, crucified on the Mithran cross to a Roman trinity.
In fact every time they crucified anyone on a cross they were practicing human sacrifice to Mithras, the secret Babylonian MYSTERY RELIGION of the Roman government and military that became the Roman Catholic (universal) Church when Caesar conferred power and authority to the papacy and the Antichrist was ruthlessly unleashed on the world in 325ce
They have their reward already whether still on earth or were murdered by your church thousands of years ago, eternal life, the reward of the righteous, every last one.
So let it be written. So let it be done. But please don't feel left out.
You have your reward already too. Its not the same but that is your choice.
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lol. Who can say. I'm sure he cares that you have perverted his observations to justify your predatory thinking that his theory justifies corruption and the deception of the innocent, the sick, the paralyzed, the lame, the blind, the deaf, dumb, dead, the poor, and the vulnerable.
I'm sure if God is God he cares you are literally a ghoul and so you have your reward already. Death, a curse, and existence without life in Gehenna hell hades Sheol the realm of the dead.
But thanks again for revealing for all the world to see that in spite of claiming to be a Christian "believer", pft, you are just another low life creep lurking in the dark drooling over the prospect of fleecing anyone gullible enough to be fooled by your transparent pretense.
If that wasn't clear enough for you, or way above your grasp I will happily explain it again.
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forgeries in all three desert bibles -
from a&e their request for self determination being granted by the heavens - their prescribed goal requiring them to triumph good vs evil to receive judgement when accomplished necessary for admission to the everlasting and their goal's reiteration during the time of noah is all that is required to free one's spirit for life in the everlasting.
bringing the crucifiers to justice is self explanatory - the heavenly way or there is no heaven for those who fail.
No, the ONLY, right WAY forward is forgiveness which is the ONLY way it will be possible to create a new heaven and a new earth where death, a curse, does not exist anymore, and the Nachash, including every foul and loathsome beast and bird goes extinct or at least is relegated to the lowest places in society as God intended. See Genesis 3:14, because everyone is wrong about God and what he taught Jesus about his Law and his wisdom.
Except me of course. lol.
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think again ... that is they who do not seek such a remedy for their chosen way of life and are more than happy for that solution, forgiveness.
jesus chose his way as surly heavenly that's not the only way to triumph over evil.
I hate to spoil your genocidal fantasies, but when the sheep goes straight, the shepherds are called to account, by God.
And then, when the truth is finally revealed, the Sheep can make their own informed choice
And that light will separate day from night creating a new heaven and a new earth
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who's kidding who -
is that you playing kumbaya ...
there's the difference, leo is close if playing horse shoes.
jesus is not given the true credit they deserve. their repudiation of the false commandments, judaism et al.
What do you believe is coming, exactly?
Suffering.
How can you bring the "crucifiers to Justice the heavenly way" if the heavens never established laws governing mankind - other than natural law?
When a heard of buffalos eat plant matter, devouring fields - they eat life to support their own lives. Their waste becomes fertilizer and the gasses they produce becomes "air" for the vegetation that will replace the vegetation they devoured.
If a someone only understands that "buffalos run wild, devouring everything in their path" they could consider them "evil beasts"
When a pride of lions hunts and kills a buffalo from the heard - they eat it so they can sustain life - the leftovers are first devoured by hyenas then ants, insects devour the rest - until there is nothing left. Fulfilling the "natural cycle of life".
If someone only sees the vicious killing of a buffalo by lions - they could consider them "evil beasts"
There is no "good" or "evil" in the laws of nature when regarding "the natural cycle of life" - the natural cycle of life exists "outside of the parameters" of "good" or "evil"
If the only law from the heavens is the Triumph of Good Vs Evil - and rejecting civilization - laws given at the dawn of mankind - is the only thing considered "Good" by the heavens - then everything else on Earth outside of natural law would be considered "evil" - essentially telling all of mankind to return to their primitive, cave man selves - following only natural law - rejecting their humanity - in order to be admitted to "the everlasting".
So instead of having a small amount of people "crucifying" others you would prefer that mankind goes back to dragging women by their hair, lording over women, children and anyone weaker than themselves - and even resorting to cannibalism (or worse) for survival, if need be? By your logic these "humans" would be admitted into the everlasting? And everyone else - almost all of civilization as a whole is condemned?
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try 12 words or less ...
there are no commandments from the heavens the goal you belittle may have yet been accomplished by any other person to this day - or few and far between who's notoriety is far from known.
"Suffering" has always existed in life as we know it.
In nature, when a hare lives its entire life in constant fear of being eaten by a predator - it suffers. And when the day comes - it runs and runs as fast as it can to outrun the predator - it suffers. Eventually, when the predator finally catches it - the suffering reaches its most acute level - the predator bites it by the neck - as it bleeds out, it screeches out first from the fear - then from the pain. And a few moments later, for the first time in its life, the hare no longer "Suffers".
The "suffering" the hare endured during its life could be considered at least "part" of the ransom for its life and the life it took from the vegetation it ate. And if the "suffering" the hair endured throughout its life "outweighs" the ransom for its life and the life it took - the Spirit of the natural world will balance it out - in one form or another.
This goes for almost all of life - from the trees, vegetation - to all life in the oceans and waters - to insects and all living, breathing animals - including humans.
In "The Garden of Eden" Mankind was given the greatest gift - they were first awarded life - in the "Image of God" - They were given the opportunity to live lives as "Masters of nature" - WITHOUT THE ADDED WEIGHT OF "knowing" the differences between "Natural Law" and "Divine/Spiritual" Law - which is what causes the greatest suffering among mankind to this day - whether mankind realizes it or not.
Mankind "thrives for something more" outside of the natural world - it began the day they took the fruit - going against God's initial plan - up until this day - through the advent of civilizations, technology and so forth.
This "thriving for something more" is the cause of most wars and struggles on Earth. It is both a blessing that makes us human beings and a "curse" with the ransom of "suffering".
Our physical bodies want to follow the rules of nature but our "Spiritual selves" - the thriving of wanting "more in life" run contrary to one another - causing discord within ourselves and manifests itself as disputes over religions, laws, politics, ideologies, philosophies and so forth.
Suffering comes in many forms - physical, psychological, spiritual - to ease the suffering, some people resort to methods other people would regard as "Sin" AND VICE VERSA. When a nation conquers another nation - they regard the people they conquered as "inferior" and potentially "living in sin" or being forced to live under "sinful" ways. The people of the nation that was conquered regards their conquerors as "evil" and "greater sinners". And this has gone on for the past 5,000+ years.
Living under natural law causes suffering. Living under THE LAW causes suffering. Living within many religions - including living in Christ causes suffering.
As St.Paul wrote in his letter to the Corinthians:
But whatever anyone dares to boast of—I am speaking out of foolishness—I also dare to boast of. 22. Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they descendants of Abraham? So am I. Are they ministers of Christ? (I am talking now like a madman.) I am too, having endured far greater labors, far more imprisonments, far harsher scourgings, and far more brushes with death.
24. Five times I received from the Jews forty lashes minus one. Three times I was beaten with rods; once I was stoned; three times I was shipwrecked; once I was adrift in the open sea for a night and a day. 26. have traveled continually and faced dangers from rivers, dangers from robbers, dangers from my own people, dangers from Gentiles, dangers in the city, dangers in the desert, dangers at sea, and dangers from false brethren.
27. I have endured toil and hardship, and sleepless nights. I have been hungry and thirsty, and I have often gone without food. I have been cold, and often all but naked.
28 Apart from these external things, I am burdened each and every day with the anxiety of caring for all the Churches. 29 Who is weak, and I am not similarly afflicted? Who is led into sinfulness, and I am not filled with indignation?
Everyone suffers - all living beings suffer. If one suffers and is bothered by his/her suffering - let them be at peace -
FOR THERE IS A RANSOM DUE FOR THE SUFFERING OF HUMANITY - THAT RANSOM IS LIFE - HERE AND BEYOND.
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Exactly.
So NO ONE. (Thank goodness).
Well, I have news for you. The so called "Everlasting" you so boldly speak of is certainly only "The Heavens" in words -
"The Kingdom of God - what most consider 'Heaven' is fulfilled though the Mind - Body and Soul - leading to Paradise"
By The Father - The Son and The Holy Spirit - the journey begins on what you call "The Sabbath" - The Earthly Paradise. It is to be honored because it is the beginning of the path to true Righteousness and Spiritual Holyness.
It is the Eternal Soul's journey both within Spirits and Spirits within them - overcoming but never "destroying". For death cannot be overcome by death - only TRUE LIFE IN MIND, HEART, SOUL AND SPIRIT overcomes death.
Your concept of "The Everlasting" is 'everlasting'.
But beware - once the curtains that separate the Heavens from Earth are torn - you could be tossed into the Abyss - a fate I would not wish on any living soul. - IT IS THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION.
Devoid of life, full of unimaginable despair - and any remaining life consciousness within you immediately shuts itself down - for life and consciousness cannot exist in the eternal void - it would be a punishment far exceeding our capabilities as living souls. Yet your soul still lives - ever drifting in an eternal cosmic "coma". That is the moment when one needs to "Be Saved by Grace" - not before.
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Let me put it this way. If a "crucifier" at some point in their life realized that they had been doing what is wrong against other people, evil, doing things that are offensive to God, and they repented and bore fruit WORTHY of repentance, they will be forgiven by my God.
If they return to their evil ways then there is no longer any avenue for them to achieve eternal life. There is no such thing as a get out of hell free card. They screwed the pooch and at the end of their life flailing about in the fires of hell they will face destruction. That is the truth.
It doesn't matter if you fail to see that "crucifiers" have never gotten away with anything, EVER. By calling for the execution of others you are placing your own head in the guillotine.
And like I said before. When the sheep go astray, the shepherds are called to account.
You must know that Jesus never called for the execution of anyone, even they who killed him
You mean like buggery?
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