The Geminga Scenario

[Stryder50]

When it comes to questions of the Creation of the Cosmos and Humans, most people tend to align with one or the other of polar views.
1) On one hand are those with Religion inclinations whom endorse some form of a Deity or Deities having decided to "Create" the Cosmos and we Humans within such. Such "Creation Stories/"Myths" " then become foundation for Religions = Ideologies with Deity/Deities attached and a proscription for how to live within the edicts of such a Creator(s).
2) On the other hand are those whom engage some form of Natural Existence/Development where "The Cosmos" is seen to have always been there, a result of it's 'Own Being" and then just happened to follow a path of mutations and developments that often have some gaps in the processes, but since such exists, it "Must have happened naturally."

Could there be some other more middle ground between these two polar extremes?

Might the Cosmos be some form of eternal cycle of Big Bangs and Big Collapses, neither a Beginning nor an End, and along the way Others show up and had some role in the appearance of the current version of we Humans, hence becoming our Gawds/Gawdesses ???

In the middle ground between Creationism and Evolutionism, this might be a perpendicular path to consider.

 

[Stryder50]

In future posts here I'll flesh out the Details more. For now, consider this copy-paste I presented in another thread* as a form of rough outline or gauge as to where this thread will go. Consider it the sort of thing one might find on the back cover of the book, giving some hint of what's inside, beyond the door just opened.
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Actually, intelligent space faring extra-terrestrials arrived in this Solar System somewhere between 500,000 to 1,000,000 million years ago as part of a larger inter-stellar colonization effort. Initially they were engaged in exploration and survey efforts so it was about 500,000 years or so back in our timeline when the major colonization efforts began here; on Earth, Mars, and other places in this Solar System.

Unfortunately, about 300,000 to 330,000 years ago one of the main stars in the core cluster of Home Worlds/Planets went supernova, creating what we now know as the Geminga Pulsar. This supernova event happened in the direction of what we know as the Orion Constellation. Tens to hundreds of billions of beings had their home worlds/planets destroyed, their lives lost and their karma~reincarnation cycles abruptly shut down.

Like many other colonies on the peripheral sphere, the "Gemingians/Annunaki" here in the Sol/Ki-Terra System found themselves cut-off from not only the prime source of spare parts and new equipment, but also any significant numbers of future colonists. Fortunately, carbon based biology in this part of the Galaxy all is based upon similar RNA and DNA devices, and life on Ki/Terra/Earth was compatible with that where these ET colonists originated from.

Some minor adjustments to a local indigenous and semi-sentient simian species produced a viable and inter-breedable being which these ET colonists could use to regenerate the karma cycle for their brethren whom perished in the supernova. Genesis Chapter six, Versus one to six are a metaphor of what then took place.

The "Gemingans/Annunakis" while they had extensive libraries of knowledge, needed to re-establish civilization and especially industry to recover and that would require a large population base than what they had arrived here with. Hence we humans were jump-started on our evolutionary path to fill that need/gap.

"Religions" were a handy population control and instruction device for the Annunaki colonists to use with their newly developed worker species(humans) which also included special blood(genetic) lines for some of their fellow members lost in the supernova to occupy and continue their soul karma regeneration process.

Of course there were similar efforts happening in other star/planet systems in this area of the Galaxy by other stranded colonial efforts and over time they re-established contact with each other. Sometimes with a bit of friction and conflict involved due to different factions that survived the supernova disaster.

The rest one could say is history, and the future to be made.
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It has been suggested that this "moon" of Saturn's; Iapetus, might be the remains of the huge colony ship used in the initial efforts to establish basing in this Solar System.

Iapetus - Moon with a View: Or, What Did Arthur Know … and When Did He Know it?
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[JGalt]

Everything wasn't suddenly created out of nothing, by way of a huge explosion.

God made this.

 

[1srelluc]

Meh, I guess maybe it's a sign of being a dullard in today's society but I really don't care how it all came about.

I'll just make the best of my time on this rock and call it a day.

 

[Stryder50]

Some assorted articles/links for further context;

Near-Earth supernova​

Near-Earth supernova - Wikipedia

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Geminga /ɡəˈmɪŋɡə/ is a gamma ray and x-ray pulsar source thought to be a neutron star approximately 250 parsecs[1] (around 800 light-years) from the Sun in the constellation Gemini.

Its name, attributed by its discoverer Giovanni Bignami, is both a contraction of Gemini gamma-ray source, and a transcription of the words ghè minga (pronounced [ɡɛ ˈmĩːɡa]), meaning "it's not there" in the Milanese dialect of Lombard.[2]
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The nature of Geminga was quite unknown for 20 years after its discovery by NASA's Second Small Astronomy Satellite (SAS-2). Finally, in March 1991 the ROSAT satellite detected a periodicity of 0.237 seconds in soft x-ray emission. Thus, it is supposed that Geminga is a sort of neutron star: the decaying core of a massive star that exploded as a supernova about 300,000 years ago.[3]

It was once thought that this nearby explosion was responsible for the low density of the interstellar medium in the immediate vicinity of the Solar System. This low-density area is known as the Local Bubble.[4] Possible evidence for this includes findings by the Arecibo Observatory that local micrometre-sized interstellar meteor particles appear to originate from its direction.[5] More recently, however, it has been suggested that multiple supernovae in subgroup B1 of the Pleiades moving group were more likely responsible,[6] becoming a remnant supershell.[7]

A study from 2019, using data from NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope discovered a large gamma-ray halo around Geminga. Accelerated electrons and positrons collide with nearby starlight. The collision boosts the light up to much higher energies. Geminga alone could be responsible for as much as 20% of the high-energy positrons seen by the AMS-02 experiment. Previous studies using data from the High-Altitude Water Cherenkov Gamma-ray Observatory found only a small gamma-ray halo around Geminga at higher energies.[8][9]
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Geminga - Wikipedia

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The Local Bubble, or Local Cavity,[3] is a relative cavity in the interstellar medium (ISM) of the Orion Arm in the Milky Way. It contains the closest of celestial neighbours and among others, the Local Interstellar Cloud (which contains the Solar System), the neighbouring G-Cloud, the Ursa Major Moving Group (the closest stellar moving group) and the Hyades (the nearest open cluster). It is at least 300 light years across, and is defined by its neutral-hydrogen density of about 0.05 atoms/cm3, or approximately one tenth of the average for the ISM in the Milky Way (0.5 atoms/cm3), and one sixth that of the Local Interstellar Cloud (0.3 atoms/cm3).[dubious – discuss][4]

The exceptionally sparse gas of the Local Bubble is the result of supernovae that exploded within the past ten to twenty million years. The gas remains in an excited state, emitting in the X-ray band.[5][6] Geminga, a pulsar in the constellation Gemini, was once thought to be the remnant of a single supernova that created the Local Bubble, but now multiple supernovae in subgroup B1 of the Pleiades moving group are thought to have been responsible,[7] becoming a remnant supershell.[8]
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Orion is a prominent constellation located on the celestial equator and visible throughout the world. It is one of the most conspicuous[1] and recognizable constellations in the night sky.[2] It is named after Orion, a hunter in Greek mythology. Its brightest stars are blue-white Rigel (Beta Orionis) and red Betelgeuse (Alpha Orionis).
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[evenflow1969]

When it comes to questions of the Creation of the Cosmos and Humans, most people tend to align with one or the other of polar views.
1) On one hand are those with Religion inclinations whom endorse some form of a Deity or Deities having decided to "Create" the Cosmos and we Humans within such. Such "Creation Stories/"Myths" " then become foundation for Religions = Ideologies with Deity/Deities attached and a proscription for how to live within the edicts of such a Creator(s).
2) On the other hand are those whom engage some form of Natural Existence/Development where "The Cosmos" is seen to have always been there, a result of it's 'Own Being" and then just happened to follow a path of mutations and developments that often have some gaps in the processes, but since such exists, it "Must have happened naturally."

Could there be some other more middle ground between these two polar extremes?

Might the Cosmos be some form of eternal cycle of Big Bangs and Big Collapses, neither a Beginning nor an End, and along the way Others show up and had some role in the appearance of the current version of we Humans, hence becoming our Gawds/Gawdesses ???

In the middle ground between Creationism and Evolutionism, this might be a perpendicular path to consider.

Lol, the middle ground has a bunch of evidenced for it. That is the story of the Enki. Enki created us out of existing hominids to mine gold for them. Not saying this actually happened but there is evidence for it. According to Von Braun Hitler jumped out ahead in tech through alien tech found by Hitler's archeologist s

 

[Stryder50]

Everything wasn't suddenly created out of nothing, by way of a huge explosion.

God made this.

If you follow what I'm saying;
1) The Universe has always existed and is cyclic, going from a Big Bang expansion followed by a Big Collapse contraction, than expands again, then contracts, etc.
2) "God" is at least an invention/creation of Humans, or more likely that of the Annunaki whom are those "Sons of the Gods" in Genesis 1: 1-6

Of course, all are free to believe what they want. My hypothesis here is just how I see the "pieces of the puzzle" best fitting.

 

[Stryder50]

Lol, the middle ground has a bunch of evidenced for it. That is the story of the Enki. Enki created us out of existing hominids to mine gold for them. Not saying this actually happened but there is evidence for it. According to Von Braun Hitler jumped out ahead in tech through alien tech found by Hitler's archeologist s

Enki was one of the primary Annunaki. His older brother is Enlil. Both were sons of
Anu.

 

[evenflow1969]

Enki was one of the primary Annunaki. His older brother is Enlil. Both were sons of
Anu.

So you are familiar then. Interesting stuff huh!

 

[Stryder50]

So you are familiar then. Interesting stuff huh!

Quite!
Back during the 1990s I came across the late Zecharia Sitchin's researches and books and became rather versed in such, to the point of making several lectures/presentations on them to some local UFO research groups. While his thesis had a few flaws and gaps, for the most part it held together rather well and did a better job of explaining the "Ancient Astronaut" concept than others had done.

For example, the rotational axis tilt and Solar plane orbital inclinations of the planets strongly suggest a massive intruder world/object. However, the likely cometary distances of his Nibiru's orbit path would not support sustaining life if it was just a planet. Such might if it was a brown dwarf with other planets orbiting it, but that remains conjecture for now. An inter-stellar origins for the Annunaki fits better and also conforms to likelyhood they would engage some disinformation to their "creations". Also, there is other evidence suggesting this.

The Official Web Site of Zecharia Sitchin

Who Was Zecharia Sitchin?

While you are learning about the Anunnaki, there is one name which you are going to encounter again and again: Zecharia Sitchin. Who was Zecharia Sitchin? That depends in part upon who you ask. To some, he was a brilliant scholar with revolutionary ideas about the ancient Sumerian and...

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Zecharia Sitchin - Wikipedia

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More later, some chores to do.

 

[Stryder50]

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[Stryder50]

Another interesting article/link for context;

Iapetus

 

[Stryder50]

Given reluctance of many to click on links, I'm inserting a few images here for consideration and context.
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Iapetus is one of the more distant "moons" of Saturn, here's a hypothetical view from such;

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One of the main reasons it remains a moon of interest;

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Also, it's slightly out of round shape;
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A comparison with a real sphere (below-right) reveals that, from this angle, Iapetus is visibly “squashed” -- by something like 50 miles out of its 900, or about 5%. For solid rocky bodies larger than a few hundred miles across, the relentless force of gravity always overcomes the innate tensile strength of such materials, and forces them to assume a spherical geometry. For solid icy bodies (those possessing less tensile strength), the limiting size before a sphere is formed is even smaller.

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The key to defining this upper “roundness” limit lies in remotely determining a moon’s “specific gravity,” which will in turn reveal its average composition.
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[Stryder50]

Iapetus wasn't on the original list of "targets" for Cassini space probe, but decision to use it for a gravity sling orbit change made some imaging possible. Here's an approcahing closer view;

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Notice frequency of hexagonal looking "craters";

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Close up of the "mountain" ridge line that is exactly on the equator. It is approximately twlve miles wide and 12 miles high. Note the interesting triple parallel line structure;

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A closer resolution;

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EXCERPT:
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In this inset (below) is a striking set of clearly defined, astonishing, repeating, three-dimensional rectilinear surface patterns -- imaged in color and located several hundred miles north of the Wall … near the boundary between the “brown stuff” and the “white stuff” on the leading hemisphere of Iapetus (sunlight from bottom left).

The rectilinearities run precisely north/south, east/west ….

Clearly these are NOT random, “square craters” -- but remarkable, highly ordered evidence of sophisticated, aligned, repeating architectural relief!
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[Stryder50]

In Part Two of the article series, we begin to detect some geodesic features which would not be natural on this scale;

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[Stryder50]

 

[Stryder50]

https://www.enterprisemissions.com/moon3.htm

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While Cassini had a ground penetrating radar and such was used on flyby of the other moons of Saturn, for some reason it wasn't when flying pass Iapetus. Hence a means to determine if any hollow "chambers" were there was not applied.
Hmmm ... ???

 

[Stryder50]

Iapetus is different. Though the third largest satellite (after Titan) -- at slightly over 900 miles across -- as noted earlier, Iapetus orbits significantly inclined to the rest of Saturn’s moons (below) – at some ~15 degrees … and over 2 million miles (~ 60 Saturn radii) away.

Flattened “nebular models” for both the swirling condensation of the solar system from an original cloud of interstellar gas and dust -- as well as the condensation of the major planets within that flattened nebula (below) -- have difficulty with high inclination orbits; frictional forces and mutual gravitational encounters should “warp” the orbits of forming planets and/or satellites down into the general plane of all the other forming objects, even before they’re fully formed ….

The high orbital inclination of the third largest moon in the Saturn system … and in the outer regions of its proto-nebula … presents a fundamental “problem” for this simple picture. One way around this problem is to explain the “anomaly” as due to “a catastrophic collision/interaction with another proto-moon” as Iapetus was forming. However, this is an “ad hoc” solution -- born of a lack (in the strictly natural paradigm) of any viable alternative ….

Once the (amazing) possibility is admitted that Iapetus could be an artificial “moon” – and may have been deliberately inserted into such an odd orbit – the “coincidental” nature of its unique, steep inclination (relative to the other similar-sized Saturnian moons -- Dione, Rhea, etc.) goes away.

But, equally “coincidental” is the shape of Iapetus’ inclined orbit … and its precise distance from Saturn.

Iapetus’ orbit is extremely close to being circular -- with an eccentricity of only 0.0283 – departing from a perfect circle by slightly less than 3%. (By comparison, our Moon’s orbital eccentricity – a body that mainstream planetologists now propose was born from a similar theorized “collision” – is 0.0549 or ~ 6% … essentially twice as eccentric as Iapetus!)

For an almost circular, very high inclination orbit to have formed through “random chance” is really pushing coincidence -- if the agent for achieving that low eccentricity and the high inclination is supposed to be the same “random” collisional event, back when Iapetus was forming.

And, there’s more.

The sharp reader will have noticed, from the preceding references, that Iapetus currently orbits slightly less than 60 radii away from Saturn (59.091 radii, to be exact - below). This discrepancy, 0.15% -- in the artificial model that precisely 60 radii was originally intended -- would represent how much Iapetus has drifted since it was “parked” (as a designed “station”) in Saturn orbit. That rate of drift, either due to Saturnian/sun tides, or other forces (to be discussed in detail later), could give another way to estimate – other than by counting craters – roughly “when” this entire scenario in fact occurred ….

That “ideal” Iapetus distance from Saturn just “happens” to also be base 60 -- another tetrahedral number -- suddenly appearing in the first Sumerian civilization on Earth some ~ 6000 years ago …. A number that fits perfectly into the redundant, equally mysterious tetrahedral placement of the two major “ring basins” we’ve previously discussed on Iapetus … 120/240 degrees apart.

And, the same number that is also redundantly communicated via Iapetus’ own baffling Platonic shape!

Which leads us to another startling “coincidence.”


If you take the inclination of Iapetus’ orbit (~ 15 degrees) and multiply by its distance in Saturn radii (60), the result is the average of the current Cassini “triaxial measurements” of Iapetus’ diameter (below)—

~ 900 miles!

The measured Iapetus’ diameter!!

(The slight discrepancies between the “ideal numbers,” and those currently observed, can easily be explained as slight changes – occurring over a literally geological period of time – in the evolving orbital elements of Iapetus … again, due to external solar system forces.)
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[Stryder50]

Hoagland is inclined to consider Iapetus an artifact from earlier times when Earth had a higher level of civilization on our current pre-history perspective.
I'm inclined to consider it a possible inter-stellar ship in form of a hollowed out asteroid, made into a sort of "city in space" that could have housed thousands of crew and colonists and their equipment. The sort of single large vessel that would be an ideal colony ship for inter-stellar use.

More interesting images and speculations in the last parts of the series;

https://www.enterprisemissions.com/moon5.htm

https://www.enterprisemissions.com/moon6.htm

Alas, Part Seven has yet to be done.

 

[Stryder50]

Meh, I guess maybe it's a sign of being a dullard in today's society but I really don't care how it all came about.

I'll just make the best of my time on this rock and call it a day.

Understandable, in a way.
However, there might be a larger scope in play, and such might include this world/planet being under a quarantine of sorts as far as the rest of the intra-galactic community is concerned.

We here on Earth my be part of a "Dosadi Experiment" of sorts;
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The Dosadi Experiment is a 1977 science fiction novel by American writer Frank Herbert. It is the second full-length novel set in the ConSentiency universe established by Herbert in his short stories "A Matter of Traces" and "The Tactful Saboteur", and continued in his novel Whipping Star. It was first published as a four-part serial in Galaxy Science Fiction magazine from May to August, 1977.
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Plot summary​

The novel is set in a distant future when humans are part of an interstellar civilization called the ConSentiency composed of many species. One, the Taprisiots, provide instant mind-to-mind communication between two sentient minds anywhere in the universe, and the Caleban provide "jump-doors" (which allow instantaneous travel between any two points in the universe). This is the glue that holds the far-flung ConSentiency together. Unfortunately, one consequence of jump-door technology is the possibility that large numbers of unsuspecting sentients can be diverted to destinations unknown for nefarious purposes. A government saboteur attempts to expose one such plot.

Jorj X. McKie is a Saboteur Extraordinary, one of the principals of the Bureau of Sabotage, and the only human admitted to practice law before the Gowachin bar as a legum (lawyer). While meditating in a park in the Bureau's headquarters, McKie is mentally contacted by the Caleban Fannie Mae, a female member of a multidimensional species of unparalleled power whose visible manifestation in this universe is the star Thyone in the Pleiades cluster.

Generations ago, a secret, unauthorized experiment by the Gowachins was carried out with the help of a contract with the Calebans. They isolated the planet Dosadi behind an impenetrable barrier called "The God Wall". On the planet were placed humans and Gowachin, with an odd mix of modern and old technology. The planet itself is massively poisonous except for a narrow valley, containing the city "Chu", into which nearly 89 million humans and Gowachin are crowded under terrible conditions. It is ruled by a dictator, many other forms of government having been tried previously, but without the ability to remove such things as the DemoPol, a computer system used to manipulate populaces without their consent or knowledge. The culture of ordinary day-to-day power in Dosadi is very violent. Among other tools, addictive psychotropes are used for handling power among hierarchies in organisations.

Senior Liator (or Liaitor) Keila Jedrik starts a war that will change Dosadi forever. Jorj travels to Dosadi and escapes with Keila after engaging in ego sharing. This gives them the ability to swap bodies and thus by using a hole in the contract sealing Dosadi they can escape via jump gate. Once free, by legal manoeuvring the Dosadi population is unleashed upon the ConSentiency for good or ill, while the people who set the project in motion try to deal with the consequences, having sent McKie there hoping a solution more in their interest could be found.
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