Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

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I dont think he worships Jesus. Not everyone does. Thats freedom

You're as fake as he is.

 

[Hafar1014]

You're as fake as he is.

No im not in what way. I dont think he worships idols I believe he is an atheist.

 

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No im not in what way. I dont think he worships idols I believe he is an atheist.

You don't seem to know what Judaism teaches and you present yourself as being Jewish.
You don't seem to understand science and you present yourself as a man of science.

 

[Hafar1014]

You don't seem to know what Judaism teaches and you present yourself as being Jewish.
You don't seem to understand science and you present yourself as a man of science.

I know exactly what it teaches you have no idea and cant even read Hebrew. You have no idea what the bible means. You believe the Christian big lie without question. Thats blind faith in a primitive religion based on Dualism polytheism idolatry and threats. Its a free country you can believe what you want and so can I. Youre welcome to your backward thinking it has no effect on me

 

[hobelim]

You're worshipping Jesus right now. Idol worshipper! Blasphemer!!!

Sure, if you who seeks spiritual life from lifeless bread MADE BY HUMAN HANDS says so.

Pinche payaso.

Pft.

 

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I know exactly what it teaches you have no idea and cant even read Hebrew. You have no idea what the bible means. You believe the Christian big lie without question. Thats blind faith in a primitive religion based on Dualism polytheism idolatry and threats. Its a free country you can believe what you want and so can I. Youre welcome to your backward thinking it has no effect on me

I am constantly correcting you about Jewish beliefs. Constantly. You run away each and every time I do it. Don't worry, you keep repeating the same lies so I'll make sure to point it out each time.

 

[Hafar1014]

I am constantly correcting you about Jewish beliefs. Constantly. You run away each and every time I do it. Don't worry, you keep repeating the same lies so I'll make sure to point it out each time.

You just have your own interpretation its wrong primitive but thats yours. Who cares. Youre welcome to your beliefs that were created for the great unwashed. Jewish theology is above your head. Way above

 

[hobelim]

No im not in what way. I dont think he worships idols I believe he is an atheist.

I believe in the God who "created heaven and earth" through Moses by giving the Law as a light to the nations dividing day from night, clean from unclean, true from false, good from evil, life from death around 3500 years ago in this world that had been without shape or form (lawless) and void (pointless) and darkness (ignorance) covered the face of the deep (the unknown) for billions of years. Apparently he remains an unknown God who doesn't give a crap about what people eat, diet, what they wear, fashion, or the sexual preferences of consenting adult bipeds. Sex. Those things are the carnal concerns of heathen, the godless.

I don't "just believe" I know the unknown God that Jesus, a Jewish man, called "the Father".

 

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You just have your own interpretation its wrong primitive but thats yours. Who cares. Youre welcome to your beliefs that were created for the great unwashed. Jewish theology is above your head. Way above

No. I have knowledge of Jewish beliefs.

Judaism teaches there is an afterlife, but it is a complex and varied concept without a single, universally accepted dogma, rather encompassing ideas of resurrection, reincarnation, and a spiritual existence in the "World to Come" (Olam Ha-Ba). Beliefs range from the physical resurrection of the body during the Messianic age to souls living on through one's descendants or experiencing a spiritual state of connection with God after death.

Here are some key aspects of the Jewish view of the afterlife:

• Olam Ha-Ba (The World to Come): This is a broad term for the afterlife, often understood as a spiritual existence where souls experience a deeper connection with God, separate from the physical world.
• Resurrection of the Dead (Tehiyat Ha-Metim): A traditional belief is the physical resurrection of the dead during or after the messianic era, though some interpret this more metaphorically.
• Reincarnation: This is a belief found in Jewish mysticism and Kabbalah, though it is not a universal or central tenet for all Jews.
• Immortality of the Soul: The idea that the soul continues to exist after the body dies is a prevalent concept within Jewish thought.
• Gehinnom: A concept similar to purgatory or a temporary cleansing place for the soul after death, rather than an eternal hell.
• Focus on This World: Despite belief in an afterlife, Judaism traditionally emphasizes the importance of living a meaningful life and fulfilling mitzvot (commandments) in this world.

The diversity of these beliefs is a feature of Jewish tradition, with different movements and periods holding various interpretations of what happens after death.

The concept of self-belief in Judaism is inextricably linked to belief in God, and is generally rooted in the idea that human beings were created in the image of God and imbued with divine potential.

Jewish teachings on self-worth focus on:

• Inherent Worth (Tzelem Elohim): Every person is considered to have inherent worth and dignity because they are created b'tzelem Elohim, in the image of God. This worth is not something to be earned, but is intrinsic to one's existence.
• Agency of God's Will: True Jewish confidence comes not from belief in one's limited self, but from recognizing oneself as an agent of God's will in the world. As such, one's potential is tied to the infinite power of God.
• Actions over Beliefs: While belief is important, Judaism often places a stronger emphasis on actions (mitzvot) and ethical behavior. Right actions, coupled with right attitudes, are the ideal; however, an individual is ultimately measured by what they do in the world.
• Purpose and Potential: A person has a specific mission or purpose that only they can fulfill. Believing in oneself means recognizing and utilizing one's unique, God-given abilities and potential to do good in the world.
• Humility and Confidence: Jewish sources advocate for a balance between confidence and humility. Moses, for example, was considered the humblest of men yet had the confidence to argue with God. This confidence stemmed from his faith in God, not in his own ego.

Therefore, while self-belief is highly valued and considered essential for personal growth and fulfilling one's purpose, the foundation of this self-worth in Judaism is ultimately a reflection of one's relationship and belief in the Creator.

In Judaism, yetzer hara (Hebrew: יֵצֶר הַרַע‎, romanized: yēṣer haraʿ) is a term for humankind's congenital inclination to do evil. The concept is prominent in rabbinic texts and in the works of the Syriac poet Narsai.[1] The term itself is drawn from the phrase "the inclination of the heart of man is evil" (Biblical Hebrew: יֵצֶר לֵב הָאָדָם רַע, romanized: yêṣer lêḇ hā-ʾāḏām raʿ), which occurs twice at the beginning of the Torah (Genesis 6:5 and Genesis 8:21).

You are on a mission to subvert Christianity.

Judaism does not teach to subvert other religions; in fact, it's generally not a proselytizing faith, believing that righteous non-Jews (following the Seven Noahide Laws) have a path to God and the world to come, focusing instead on Jewish particularity and the covenant with God. While acknowledging other faiths, Judaism doesn't see itself as the sole path to salvation, nor does it actively seek mass conversion, viewing the righteous in all nations as having a place in the afterlife, unlike faiths that mandate conversion for "saving" souls.

Key Jewish Perspectives on Other Religions:

• No Requirement to Convert Others: Judaism doesn't have a mandate to spread its faith globally or convert everyone, unlike some other religions.
• Multiple Paths to God: The concept of "The Righteous Among the Nations" (Gentiles) having a share in the World to Come signifies that morality and a relationship with God are accessible outside Judaism.
• Noahide Laws: Non-Jews are expected to follow the universal Seven Noahide Laws (e.g., prohibitions against murder, theft, idolatry, and requirements for justice), which provide a framework for moral living.
• Respect for Other Faiths (within limits): While recognizing other religions, Judaism emphasizes the distinct covenant with the Jewish people and maintains boundaries, but also promotes understanding and coexistence, as suggested by figures like Chief Rabbi Sacks.
• Historical Context: Jewish history, marked by persecution, fostered a defensive, inward-looking approach rather than outward evangelism.

In essence, Judaism seeks to live its covenant with God and allows others to find their own paths, emphasizing moral living over forced conversion or subversion.

Judaism teaches that people can harden their hearts through repeated defiance, leading to a state where they become unresponsive to God's call, a concept vividly illustrated by Pharaoh and the Israelites in the desert, where persistent refusal can result in a spiritual inability to accept divine love or guidance, though the possibility of repentance always remains a core theme. This process involves a choice to resist God, but eventually God may "confirm" them in that state, making true return harder, though not necessarily impossible.
Key Concepts

• Free Will & Choice: Humans have the choice to open or close their hearts to God.
• Progressive Hardening: Hardening isn't usually immediate; it's a gradual process of repeated refusal, like Pharaoh hardening his own heart before God reinforced it.
• Divine Response: God responds to persistent human defiance by allowing them to remain in their hardened state, as a form of consequence or punishment, to demonstrate His power and the seriousness of their choice.
• Scriptural Examples:
  • Pharaoh: Repeatedly refused to let the Israelites go, leading to God hardening his heart so He could display more miracles.
  • Israelites: Were warned not to harden their hearts as their ancestors did in the wilderness, a warning echoed in the New Testament (Hebrews 3).
• The "Point of No Return": While Judaism emphasizes repentance, the narrative suggests a point where the spiritual pathway becomes very difficult due to ingrained rebellion, but the ultimate goal remains a return to God.

In essence, Judaism teaches that while God desires everyone to return, continuous rejection of His love and guidance can create a deep-seated spiritual deafness, making it incredibly difficult to hear or accept that love, though the door to repentance is never fully sealed until the very end.

You are arguing against what Judaism teaches.

Judaism teaches that the physical universe is evidence of God's existence, often referred to as finding the Creator through creation. Classical Jewish philosophy, notably by Maimonides, argues that the orderly nature of the universe necessitates a divine creator. While belief is commanded, observing the cosmos and nature serves as a means to recognize and know God.
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• Evidence in Nature: The complexity and existence of the universe (creation) are viewed as proof of an external, self-caused Creator.
• Theological Foundation: The Torah begins with the premise that God exists and created everything.
• Purpose of Creation: The world was created with purpose, and recognizing this design leads to understanding God's role.
• Role of Observation: While some views focus on blind faith, others, such as Kabbalistic traditions, see the natural world as a reflection of divine,, sefirot.
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Therefore, Judaism generally views the natural world not as random, but as evidence of a, divine Creator.

The affirmative expression of atheism is believing the only thing that exists is the material world. In this expression the thing that exists is the material world. The affirmative expression of religious people is believing God exists. In this expression the "thing" that exists is God.

God can be know through the light of human reason. Try googling, "does Judaism teach that God can be known through the light of human reason?" You are no jew.

Judaism teaches that God can be known, or at least recognized, through the light of human reason, though this is generally viewed as a complement to, rather than a replacement for, divine revelation. Judaism encourages the use of intellect to understand the world and, by extension, the Creator.
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Key aspects of this teaching include:

• Rational Exploration of God: Medieval Jewish philosophers, notably Maimonides, argued that studying the physical world (science and nature) is a religious pursuit that leads to knowledge of God.
• The Example of Abraham: Classical rabbinic tradition (Midrash) holds that Abraham discovered the existence of one God through the use of his own reason, observing the natural world and concluding it required a creator, long before revelation at Sinai.
• "Image of God" as Intellect: Many rabbinical interpretations suggest that being created in the "image of God" (Genesis 1:27) refers to the human ability to reason.
• Limitations of Reason: While reason can demonstrate the existence of a Creator, many Jewish thinkers maintain that the full essence of God is beyond human comprehension. Reason provides the "back" of God (understanding His actions and attributes), not the "face" (His essence).
• Complementary to Faith: In the Jewish tradition, reason often works alongside Emunah (faith/trust). While reason can provide a "scaffolding" for belief, it is not always seen as sufficient on its own to replace the need for experiential, lived faith.

Judaism teaches that moral truths are objective and revealed by God, providing a compass for humanity. Core values include justice, loving kindness and holiness. You must not be Jewish because you are constantly making arguments in opposition to Jewish beliefs.

 

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I believe in the God who "created heaven and earth" through Moses by giving the law as a light to the nations dividing day from night, clean from unclean, true from false, good from evil, life from death in this world around 3500 years ago that had been without shape or form (lawless) and darkness (ignorance) covered the face of the deep (the unknown) for billions of years. Apparently he remains an unknown God who doesn't give a crap about what people eat, diet, what they wear, fashion, or the sexual preferences of consenting adult bipeds. Sex.

The same unknown God that Jesus called "the Father".

And that YOUR god condones buggery.

 

[hobelim]

And that YOUR god condones buggery.

And your mangod teaches that idolatry a sin under penalty of death is the way to eternal life

So there's that.

A person would have to be either pretty stupid or possessed by a devil to believe that. Right? Mr. "We are many" Y'all went from a legion to billons in a herd of swine stampeding off a cliff.

Very impressive!

 

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And your mangod teaches that idolatry a sin under penalty of death is the way to eternal life

So there's that.

A person would have to be either pretty stupid or possessed by a devil to believe that. Right?

Mr. "WE are many". Y'all went from a legion to billons in your herd of swine. Very impressive!

For the love of God, please stop worshiping Jesus and making an idol out of him.

 

[hobelim]

For the love of God, please stop worshiping Jesus and making an idol out of him.

for the love of Mike, **** off.

 

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for the love of Pete, **** off.

 

[hobelim]

When will you stop lifting your skirt to be shafted by a priest in church in front of children? I heard that people who do this die and descend into Gehenna, HELL, the realm of the dead.

Perv.

I didn't believe until a plague of faithful serpents running amok started knocking on my door.

 

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When you stop lifting your skirt to be shafted by a priest in church in front of children? Perv. I heard that people who do this die and descend into Gehenna, HELL, the realm of the dead.

I didn't believe until people like you, a plague of serpents running amok started knocking on my door.

 

[hobelim]

Sure, the next thing you'll reference are instructions about how to wipe your ass with stones.

Thanks for showing just how backward your thinking is.

 

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Sure, the next thing you'll reference are instruction about how to wipe your ass with stones.

Thanks for showing just how backward your thinking is.

You should form a mob and start purging Christians. Isn't bigotry fun?

 

[hobelim]

You should form a mob and start purging Christians.

Nah.

I would rather give them an informed choice between a blessing or a curse, life or death, the choice they were never given as babies or children when their rational minds were executed.

You probably even sacrificed your own children to Moloch if you managed to trick a woman or a man, lol, into believing that you weren't a hypocritical lying fraud and sadistic creep.

Isn't bigotry fun?

It must be for you.

Why else would you obsessively make offensive posts about homosexuality unless you thought YOUR bigotry was funny.

 

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Nah. I would rather give them an informed choice, the choice they were never given as babies.



It must be for you.

Why else would you obsessively make offensive posts about buggery, lol, as if someone would think YOUR bigotry is funny.

https://campushistory.wisc.edu/gay-purge-persecution/

Ahhh... the good old days when people could act out their bigotries.