No. Yours. The fire was spectacular.
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I told them I was you so they expected it.
To get under your skin. This is the robber bird game we're playing, right?
If you are going to live by your bigotry you will die by your bigotry. If you like your bigotry, you can keep your bigotry. Obama said so.
I said to post Scripture and let it speak for itself, not post a snippet complete with your interpretation, your dropped words and your inserted words. You did not do that and you have not supported your assertion. You keep saying I'm already in hell, post the Scripture that says that. If it says that, you should be able to simply quote it without embellishment, without, "Well, really it means this" and without taking away or adding to.
You can't do that.
Wrong.
Thats what I did. I made the assertion that Jesus sent his disciples on a mission from God to "curse the nations". And here is scripture speaking for itself confirming what I told you. So any of your claims that I can't do what I have done is beyond pathetic. Your failure to grasp the significance of this or do what scripture requires to save your own soul, isn't my fault.
Saying praise God! Thank you Jesus! can't conceal the fact that you are a faithless coward.
Crying won't help you. Prayer will do you no good....Saying "sorry"
doesn't get it done."I have not come to bring peace but a sword." (Jesus H. Christ) Matthew 10:34
"Take, from my hand, this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them." Jeremiah 25:15
‘This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Drink, get drunk and vomit, and fall to rise no more (Rev. 14:8) because of the sword I will send among you.’ Jeremiah 25:27
From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which TO SMITE THE NATIONS." Rev 19:15
"He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword."
"Babylon was a gold cup in the hand of the LORD, making the whole earth drunk. The nations drank her wine; therefore the nations have gone mad." Jeremiah 51:7
"TAKE THIS CUP OF WINE AND DRINK IT. THIS IS A CUP OF MY BLOOD, THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT,"
Just art thou, in these thy judgments, thou Holy One who art and wast; for they shed the blood of thy people and of thy prophets and thou hast given them blood to drink."
"And to the east of Eden he stationed the Cherubim, with a flaming and flashing sword, THAT TURNS IN EVERY DIRECTION, to guard THE WAY to the tree of life."
Bottoms up!
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Wrong.
Thats what I did. I made the assertion that Jesus sent his disciples on a mission to "curse the nations". And here is scripture speaking for itself confirming what I told you. So any of your assertions that I can't do what I have already done is beyond pathetic. Your failure to grasp the significance of this or do what scripture requires to save your own soul, isn't my fault.
Saying praise God! Thank you Jesus! can't conceal the fact that you are a faithless coward.
Crying won't help you. Prayer will do you no good.
"I have not come to bring peace but a sword." (Jesus H. Christ) Matthew 10:34
"Take, from my hand, this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them." Jeremiah 25:15
‘This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Drink, get drunk and vomit, and fall to rise no more (Rev. 14:8) because of the sword I will send among you.’ Jeremiah 25:27
From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which TO SMITE THE NATIONS." Rev 19:15
"He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword."
"Babylon was a gold cup in the hand of the LORD, making the whole earth drunk. The nations drank her wine; therefore the nations have gone mad." Jeremiah 51:7
"TAKE THIS CUP OF WINE AND DRINK IT. THIS IS A CUP OF MY BLOOD, THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT,"
Just art thou, in these thy judgments, thou Holy One who art and wast; for they shed the blood of thy people and of thy prophets and thou hast given them blood to drink."
"And to the east of Eden he stationed the Cherubim, with a flaming and flashing sword, THAT TURNS IN EVERY DIRECTION, to guard THE WAY to the tree of life."
Bottoms up!
The wealthiest and most influential people on earth will not be so happy when they eventually do their life review and they find out that wealth and fame and influence and power that they were taught they should seek after, was something of a practical joke that was being played on them by the Tempter, who apparently also deceived about one third of the angels of heaven].
1. Introduction to the Light and NDEs
In his book entitled “God at the Speed of Light“, NDE researcher Dr. T. Lee Baumann describes the “supernatural” and scientific qualities of light: Light was pervasive at the Big Bang and is predicted at the Universe’s demise (alpha and omega). The second law of thermodynamics (entropy) dictates that an infinite amount of organization (hence, design) existed in the singularity of the Big Bang. All matter is ultimately reducible to electromagnetic radiation (light). Time ceases to exist at light speed. The energy of light is infinite. Physicists reveal experiments that show that light particles communicate! Eminent physicist, David Bohm, viewed all matter as “condensed” or “frozen light.” Physicist Stephen Hawking once stated ,”When you break subatomic particles down to their most elemental level, you are left with nothing but pure light.” Light is the loving entity that welcomes the dying in NDEs. It is human observation that transforms light waves to light particles (i.e., how we experience reality).
The world’s major religious texts refer to God in terms of light. In the Christian Bible, God is described as light: “God is light, and in him there is no darkness at all” (1 John 1:5). Concerning Tibetan Buddhism, the Dalai Lama states that light is “a common image in all the major religious traditions. In the Buddhist context, light is particularly associated with wisdom and knowledge; darkness is associated with ignorance and a state of misknowledge” (Dalai Lama, 2002). Buddhism in general teaches that people see a “Clear Light” after death. In Islam, the Quran states that Allah is “the light (Nūr) of the heavens and the Earth” (Verse of Light). in Rabbinic Judaism and Kabbalah, “Ohr Ein Sof” means the “Infinite Light.” In Hinduism, “Diwali” is a festival of lights – a celebration of the victory of light over darkness. In Zoroastrianism, God is described as “light” which is the oldest non-anthropomorphic conception of God.
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Near death experiencer are reporting that they are shown that this earth is an extremely scary realm to incarnate down into. None the less the dream that was given to the Patriarch Jacob - Yacob has been coming to pass and every human who is conceived does indeed have a spiritual being or angel that has volunteered to take on a mission to this earth as a mere human.
In a way I think that it is good news that this earth is a scary realm from the point of view of heaven.
Even Atheists tend to have fascinating near death experiences, partly due to their shock at finding their consciousness outside of their bodies and brains.
1. About A. J. Ayer
Atheists have deathbed experiences and near-death experiences just like everyone else does. The philosophy of Positivism, founded by the famous atheist named A. J. Ayer, is the philosophy that anything not verifiable by the senses is nonsense. Because NDEs mark the end of the senses, Positivists believe the survival of the senses after death is nonsense. But this philosophy has been challenged by its founder A. J. Ayer himself. Later in life, Ayer had an NDE where he saw a red light. Ayer’s NDE made him a changed man:
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"Do not suppose that I have come to abolish the Law and the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but fulfill. I tell you this: so long as heaven and earth endure, not a letter, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until all that must happen has happened. If any man therefore sets aside even the least of the Laws demands, and teaches others to do the same, will have THE LOWEST PLACE in the kingdom of Heaven." Matthew 5:17-19
To understand what Jesus meant by saying, "THE LOWEST PLACE", see Genesis 3:14
Open your eyes and see the power of God. See what defying the Law of God has done to ding who is descending lower and lower into hell, abandoned by God to his gibbering folly.
Read his latest posts if you don't believe me. In full view of heaven and earth he turned from being a jackass into a worm that eats dirt and creeps around in the darkness under the earth.
The more obstinate he is the more his torment will increase. There is no bottom to the abyss.
If you want proof of that just ask or make some snide remark and I'll push you over the edge.
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That wasn't your challenge. You said I'm already in hell, repeatedly. Quote Scripture on its own without embellishment that says that.Wrong.
Thats what I did. I made the assertion that Jesus sent his disciples on a mission from God to "curse the nations". And here is scripture speaking for itself confirming what I told you. So any of your claims that I can't do what I have done is beyond pathetic. Your failure to grasp the significance of this or do what scripture requires to save your own soul, isn't my fault.
Saying praise God! Thank you Jesus! can't conceal the fact that you are a faithless coward.
Crying won't help you. Prayer will do you no good....Saying "sorry"
"I have not come to bring peace but a sword." (Jesus H. Christ) Matthew 10:34
"Take, from my hand, this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them." Jeremiah 25:15
‘This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Drink, get drunk and vomit, and fall to rise no more (Rev. 14:8) because of the sword I will send among you.’ Jeremiah 25:27
From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which TO SMITE THE NATIONS." Rev 19:15
"He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword."
"Babylon was a gold cup in the hand of the LORD, making the whole earth drunk. The nations drank her wine; therefore the nations have gone mad." Jeremiah 51:7
"TAKE THIS CUP OF WINE AND DRINK IT. THIS IS A CUP OF MY BLOOD, THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT,"
Just art thou, in these thy judgments, thou Holy One who art and wast; for they shed the blood of thy people and of thy prophets and thou hast given them blood to drink."
"And to the east of Eden he stationed the Cherubim, with a flaming and flashing sword, THAT TURNS IN EVERY DIRECTION, to guard THE WAY to the tree of life."
Bottoms up!
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I just read something again after reading this years ago.
This is on a Jewish website but this is kind of shocking as well as moving. Can you imagine a situation where Messiah Yeshua - Jesus might ask of the Ancient of Days the Heavenly Father that God resurrect Moshiach ben Yosef - Ephrayim, [who may be a very flawed human being but they accomplish great things for the Jewish nation]?
If the theory is true that President Trump might just turn out to be "Moshiach ben Yosef - Ephrayim" in spite of his flaws and bad habits, [even King David had some pretty serious flaws and bad habits], then if Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, [who I am certain must be Moshiach ben David, Messiah the Passover Lamb], asks LIFE for President Trump, then instead of being offended, all of us could find this rather shocking idea somewhat encouraging.
If there is hope of LIFE being given to President Trump, then there is hope for all the rest of us as well.
President Harry Truman also wanted to do great things for the Jewish people, [and indeed he did], but now in 2026 the USA has a President who seems determined to accomplish even more for the Jewish nation than President Harry Truman did.
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The fact that you keep asking for a quote from scripture saying that YOU are already in hell for defying the Law of God, knowingly and deliberately, completely UNAWARE that you have your reward already, HELL, is the proof. If I had not come and spoken with you, you would not be guilty of sin, but because you say, "We see" the guilt of YOUR sins remain. Even though you say "praise God" and profess to "believe" that Jesus was beaten and crucified 2000 years ago to pay the penalty, death, a curse, for YOUR sins. What da fuuck!
No one knows better than you that you're tormented by reality every day and night like being in a fire that will never go out. Being a dick to me isn't going to get you anywhere but deeper.
TO BE AWARE IS TO BE ALIVE.
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And there is your confession that you have no Scriptural basis on which to base your false claim. I don't know if this will burn your eyes when you see it, but here it is, plain and simple, so simple that a child can understand it without any need to redefine words, any need to add or subtract words, any need to say something like, "Well, I know it says that, but it really means something completely different that I just made up":
9. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
I do this frequently and voluntarily. You, apparently, will be forced to do it.
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”
12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him.
13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
There is it is, the Gospel according to the Scriptures. Your ranting, raving and YouTube videos don't diminish it one iota.
Thats your response? Have a good drown as you slowly disintegrate into nothingness.
This is my response, the part that you cut out because you didn't want to deal with actual Scripture until you got your marching orders:
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”
12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him.
13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
There is it is, the Gospel according to the Scriptures. Your ranting, raving and YouTube videos don't diminish it one iota. And, of course, you will bend your knee and confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
But you don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah spoken about by Moses in Deuteronomy 18:18. You believe in a sardonic Roman joke, a mangod and spawn of a trinity, the Antichrist.
So call on your Antichrist, a false ascetic counterfeit Jesus and imaginary mangod, that you claim to believe in whenever you like. Ask him to destroy me for making the truth known.
I'll be shaking in my boots, waiting, terrified!
1. That's not my call, that's His and you will answer to Him, not me. I don't care what you say about me, it's totally irrelevant.
2. Let's look at the actual Scripture you're talking about, since you won't quote it directly.
17 "And the Lord said to me: ‘What they have spoken is good.
18 I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.
19 And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him.
That's absolutely speaking of Yeshua. Remember that He only said what the Father told Him to say and only did what the Father told Him to do. You're not very good at this, are you?
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But you don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah spoken about by Moses in Deuteronomy 18:18. You believe in a sardonic Roman joke, a mangod and spawn of a trinity, the Antichrist.
So call on the Antichrist, a false ascetic counterfeit Jesus and imaginary mangod, that you claim to believe in whenever you like. Ask him to destroy me for making the truth known.
I'll be shaking in my boots, waiting, terrified!
When we wake up out of something of a spiritual sleep....
it is like this new awake version of us replaces the old sleeping version of us.
This book may help... this is pretty heavy information that was given to near death experiencer Robert Marshall during his forty four hour NDE.
My Walk With Jesus audio | 44 Hours In Heaven
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Right, from among their brethren. A Jewish man. To "raise up" a prophet is to raise him from the dead.
"What they say is right. I will raise up for them a prophet like you, one of their own race, and I will put my words into his mouth. He shall convey all my commands to them."
Do yourself a favor. Spend a few bucks on a better translation you pompous ignoramus.
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And Yeshua was thoroughly Jewish. You really don't know much about this, do you?
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