Without bashing Trump, what did Biden do to build the case for himself in the debate?

[JoeB131]

The problem with your point, it that Trump behaved like Trump always has. He's an aggressive, New Yorker jerk who is an alpha male and responds aggressively to attacks and is loud and obnoxious. Trump's behavior is what sets him aside from (and in my opinion above) the typical bland milquetoast politicians like Biden who are afraid to say anything substantive because it might offend someone.

And that would be fine if Trump knew what he was talking about.

For instance, he had to walk back his comments about the Proud Boys, pretending he never heard of them.

Seriously?

 

[BlueGin]

Without even touching Republican or Democrat party doctrine, Biden showed a willingness to be the president of and for all Americans (US citizens if calling people who live in the US “Americans” sets off your injustice meter) not just the ones who vote or financially back him. He showed this by clearly telling the far left wing of his party that they did not win the primary and will not have the final say in his policies. That should hearten anyone who finds President Trump’s personality problematic but finds walking toward socialism even more so.

Weak feeble Joe is going to fight off the far left loons in is party? After appointing one his running mate? Not likely.

He already has

Do you see much of Liz Warren or Bernie these days?
Kamala is not Sara Palin running around with her own agenda

I notice they have been propping up AOC. Another left loon.

I’m not sure what you expect me to say to you, if you are starting from a place where you think Biden is not being genuine when he condemns the green new deal on national tv. As for Harris, not sure you have done your research there. A bunch of folks sitting in jail right now might not agree with your assessment. It is as if you have substituted the word Democrat for the words Radical Socialists. If you already are so firmly planted in your truth that there is no room for discussion of differing ideas, what is your point here?

Biden denies supporting the green new deal while touting it as his plan on his website. Either he is lying or he has no idea that it is touted as his plan on his website. And then he denies supporting defunding police or supporting rioters/ BLM and ANTIFA...while his VP running mate does both in public via the media.

 

[easyt65]

Antifa is a terrorist organization that has / is based on an ideology and goal. The same goes for BLM.

Seeing as how terrorists / insurgents have taken over the 'mostly peaceful' 'BLM' identity/slogan, one would think to separate themselves from that - since the terrorists refuse to give up 'BLM' now, another slogan . identity would be adopted.

That is not the case. Like it or not, 'BLM' is now associated with extreme violence, with looting, burning, assaulting, raping, murdering, 'burning it down', with fascist, Marxists, with cop assassinations / attacks, etc... It no longer has anything to do with George Floyd.

The MESSAGE, once this becomes the norm for this movement, is VIOLENCE, ANARCHY, etc... The original message is lost.

The violence will be tolerated for only so long. I believe exposing the fact that George Soros is funding U-Hauls being driven around handing out shields, weapons, and body armor - as is the case - is the nail in the coffin for 'the nearly peaceful protest' formerly known as 'BLM'.

'BLM' is no longer a 'mostly peaceful protest' over George Floyd. It's an Insurgency / terrorist operation being run by enemies utside the United States (Sosor, China, and others...)

 

[EL Rich]

Without even touching Republican or Democrat party doctrine, Biden showed a willingness to be the president of and for all Americans (US citizens if calling people who live in the US “Americans” sets off your injustice meter) not just the ones who vote or financially back him. He showed this by clearly telling the far left wing of his party that they did not win the primary and will not have the final say in his policies. That should hearten anyone who finds President Trump’s personality problematic but finds walking toward socialism even more so.

Weak feeble Joe is going to fight off the far left loons in is party? After appointing one his running mate? Not likely.

He already has

Do you see much of Liz Warren or Bernie these days?
Kamala is not Sara Palin running around with her own agenda

I notice they have been propping up AOC. Another left loon.

I’m not sure what you expect me to say to you, if you are starting from a place where you think Biden is not being genuine when he condemns the green new deal on national tv. As for Harris, not sure you have done your research there. A bunch of folks sitting in jail right now might not agree with your assessment. It is as if you have substituted the word Democrat for the words Radical Socialists. If you already are so firmly planted in your truth that there is no room for discussion of differing ideas, what is your point here?

Biden denies supporting the green new deal while touting it as his plan on his website. Either he is lying or he has no idea that it is touted as his plan on his website. And then he denies supporting defunding police or supporting rioters/ BLM and ANTIFA...while his VP running mate does both in public via the media.

So now we are taking what our politicians say literally all the time? (Something about bleach and sarcasm) Have you been paying any attention to our nation for the past 250ish years? Have you been paying any attention over the last 20 years? Politicians say what they think will get them elected, Biden is no different than Trump in that way. The green new deal is so clearly an economic disaster waiting to happen that anyone who has taken the time to actually go through it, who is older than 30, thinks “wow that’s nice and completely disregards reality”. So settle down, a Biden/Harris election would not mean you have to get yourself fitted for overalls.

 

[rightwinger]

Trumps behavior revealed an out of control man completely lacking the decorum we expect in a President.

Voters came away with THAT is our President ??

Biden is a return to normalcy of past Presidents

Biden lost his shit up there every bit that Trump did but had the benefit of Wallace helping him with interruptions. Your idea of normalcy is a return to apologizing for America, capitulation to other nations, and otherwise the fundamental transformation of America. That’s not normal.

He didnt lose his shit
For someone accused of dementia by his opponent, he continued to provide details and facts and challenge an opponent who was intent on disrupting the proceedings.

One candidate clearly did not appear Presidential. Hopefully, the voters will rectify that

Opinions and assessments vary.

Let the voters decide who looked more “Presidential”

I have a feeling you lose

 

[rightwinger]

Unlike St Trumpy, Biden showed himself not to be an asshole.

False. They both behaved badly. Trump was definitely more obnoxious, but Biden called Trump names several times and at one point told him to shut up.

The problem with your point, it that Trump behaved like Trump always has. He's an aggressive, New Yorker jerk who is an alpha male and responds aggressively to attacks and is loud and obnoxious. Trump's behavior is what sets him aside from (and in my opinion above) the typical bland milquetoast politicians like Biden who are afraid to say anything substantive because it might offend someone.

Most New Yorkers are not like that

Only spoiled Millionaire sons who have never been told...NO

Most New Yorkers that I have met are exactly like that. brash, rude, obnoxious and annoying.

Ever see what happened on 9-11?
Those were New Yorkers

Not the Asshole in Chief who only cares about himself

 

[Cecilie1200]

Trumps behavior revealed an out of control man completely lacking the decorum we expect in a President.

Voters came away with THAT is our President ??

Biden is a return to normalcy of past Presidents

Biden lost his shit up there every bit that Trump did but had the benefit of Wallace helping him with interruptions. Your idea of normalcy is a return to apologizing for America, capitulation to other nations, and otherwise the fundamental transformation of America. That’s not normal.

Even if it is normal, it's certainly not desirable.

 

[rightwinger]

Without even touching Republican or Democrat party doctrine, Biden showed a willingness to be the president of and for all Americans (US citizens if calling people who live in the US “Americans” sets off your injustice meter) not just the ones who vote or financially back him. He showed this by clearly telling the far left wing of his party that they did not win the primary and will not have the final say in his policies. That should hearten anyone who finds President Trump’s personality problematic but finds walking toward socialism even more so.

Weak feeble Joe is going to fight off the far left loons in is party? After appointing one his running mate? Not likely.

He already has

Do you see much of Liz Warren or Bernie these days?
Kamala is not Sara Palin running around with her own agenda

I notice they have been propping up AOC. Another left loon.

I’m not sure what you expect me to say to you, if you are starting from a place where you think Biden is not being genuine when he condemns the green new deal on national tv. As for Harris, not sure you have done your research there. A bunch of folks sitting in jail right now might not agree with your assessment. It is as if you have substituted the word Democrat for the words Radical Socialists. If you already are so firmly planted in your truth that there is no room for discussion of differing ideas, what is your point here?

Biden denies supporting the green new deal while touting it as his plan on his website. Either he is lying or he has no idea that it is touted as his plan on his website. And then he denies supporting defunding police or supporting rioters/ BLM and ANTIFA...while his VP running mate does both in public via the media.

Biden is a pragmatist. He always has been

He realizes the Green New Deal is a non-starter
So he is adapting its ideal to something that is achievable.

Of course, Republicans will oppose anything that helps the environment

 

[EL Rich]

Without even touching Republican or Democrat party doctrine, Biden showed a willingness to be the president of and for all Americans (US citizens if calling people who live in the US “Americans” sets off your injustice meter) not just the ones who vote or financially back him. He showed this by clearly telling the far left wing of his party that they did not win the primary and will not have the final say in his policies. That should hearten anyone who finds President Trump’s personality problematic but finds walking toward socialism even more so.

Weak feeble Joe is going to fight off the far left loons in is party? After appointing one his running mate? Not likely.

He already has

Do you see much of Liz Warren or Bernie these days?
Kamala is not Sara Palin running around with her own agenda

I notice they have been propping up AOC. Another left loon.

I’m not sure what you expect me to say to you, if you are starting from a place where you think Biden is not being genuine when he condemns the green new deal on national tv. As for Harris, not sure you have done your research there. A bunch of folks sitting in jail right now might not agree with your assessment. It is as if you have substituted the word Democrat for the words Radical Socialists. If you already are so firmly planted in your truth that there is no room for discussion of differing ideas, what is your point here?

Biden denies supporting the green new deal while touting it as his plan on his website. Either he is lying or he has no idea that it is touted as his plan on his website. And then he denies supporting defunding police or supporting rioters/ BLM and ANTIFA...while his VP running mate does both in public via the media.

Biden is a pragmatist. He always has been

He realizes the Green New Deal is a non-starter
So he is adapting its ideal to something that is achievable.

Of course, Republicans will oppose anything that helps the environment

Thank you for stating my unstated premise. But I don’t believe that ”of course, Republicans will oppose anything that helps the environment”.
Nixon was the Prez that created EPA and if solar power was an issue in swing states like coal is, and if alternative energy (what an odd term for this, no?) became the domain of large cooperations, I think the Republican Party platform would reflect a great deal of interest and concern for the environment.

 

[BlueGin]

Without even touching Republican or Democrat party doctrine, Biden showed a willingness to be the president of and for all Americans (US citizens if calling people who live in the US “Americans” sets off your injustice meter) not just the ones who vote or financially back him. He showed this by clearly telling the far left wing of his party that they did not win the primary and will not have the final say in his policies. That should hearten anyone who finds President Trump’s personality problematic but finds walking toward socialism even more so.

Weak feeble Joe is going to fight off the far left loons in is party? After appointing one his running mate? Not likely.

He already has

Do you see much of Liz Warren or Bernie these days?
Kamala is not Sara Palin running around with her own agenda

I notice they have been propping up AOC. Another left loon.

I’m not sure what you expect me to say to you, if you are starting from a place where you think Biden is not being genuine when he condemns the green new deal on national tv. As for Harris, not sure you have done your research there. A bunch of folks sitting in jail right now might not agree with your assessment. It is as if you have substituted the word Democrat for the words Radical Socialists. If you already are so firmly planted in your truth that there is no room for discussion of differing ideas, what is your point here?

Biden denies supporting the green new deal while touting it as his plan on his website. Either he is lying or he has no idea that it is touted as his plan on his website. And then he denies supporting defunding police or supporting rioters/ BLM and ANTIFA...while his VP running mate does both in public via the media.

So now we are taking what our politicians say literally all the time? (Something about bleach and sarcasm) Have you been paying any attention to our nation for the past 250ish years? Have you been paying any attention over the last 20 years? Politicians say what they think will get them elected, Biden is no different than Trump in that way. The green new deal is so clearly an economic disaster waiting to happen that anyone who has taken the time to actually go through it, who is older than 30, thinks “wow that’s nice and completely disregards reality”. So settle down, a Biden/Harris election would not mean you have to get yourself fitted for overalls.

Not sure what your point is. Biden is obviously being propped up by the left wing of his party. Why would I want to entertain a fraud that has no idea what he is supporting or not supporting? And has done nothing during his 50 years in congress except leech off taxpayers?

 

[BlueGin]

Without even touching Republican or Democrat party doctrine, Biden showed a willingness to be the president of and for all Americans (US citizens if calling people who live in the US “Americans” sets off your injustice meter) not just the ones who vote or financially back him. He showed this by clearly telling the far left wing of his party that they did not win the primary and will not have the final say in his policies. That should hearten anyone who finds President Trump’s personality problematic but finds walking toward socialism even more so.

Weak feeble Joe is going to fight off the far left loons in is party? After appointing one his running mate? Not likely.

He already has

Do you see much of Liz Warren or Bernie these days?
Kamala is not Sara Palin running around with her own agenda

I notice they have been propping up AOC. Another left loon.

I’m not sure what you expect me to say to you, if you are starting from a place where you think Biden is not being genuine when he condemns the green new deal on national tv. As for Harris, not sure you have done your research there. A bunch of folks sitting in jail right now might not agree with your assessment. It is as if you have substituted the word Democrat for the words Radical Socialists. If you already are so firmly planted in your truth that there is no room for discussion of differing ideas, what is your point here?

Biden denies supporting the green new deal while touting it as his plan on his website. Either he is lying or he has no idea that it is touted as his plan on his website. And then he denies supporting defunding police or supporting rioters/ BLM and ANTIFA...while his VP running mate does both in public via the media.

Biden is a pragmatist. He always has been

He realizes the Green New Deal is a non-starter
So he is adapting its ideal to something that is achievable.

Of course, Republicans will oppose anything that helps the environment

More likely he has no clue what he supports because he is coached in public and has no say over his webpage.

 

[EL Rich]

Without even touching Republican or Democrat party doctrine, Biden showed a willingness to be the president of and for all Americans (US citizens if calling people who live in the US “Americans” sets off your injustice meter) not just the ones who vote or financially back him. He showed this by clearly telling the far left wing of his party that they did not win the primary and will not have the final say in his policies. That should hearten anyone who finds President Trump’s personality problematic but finds walking toward socialism even more so.

Weak feeble Joe is going to fight off the far left loons in is party? After appointing one his running mate? Not likely.

He already has

Do you see much of Liz Warren or Bernie these days?
Kamala is not Sara Palin running around with her own agenda

I notice they have been propping up AOC. Another left loon.

I’m not sure what you expect me to say to you, if you are starting from a place where you think Biden is not being genuine when he condemns the green new deal on national tv. As for Harris, not sure you have done your research there. A bunch of folks sitting in jail right now might not agree with your assessment. It is as if you have substituted the word Democrat for the words Radical Socialists. If you already are so firmly planted in your truth that there is no room for discussion of differing ideas, what is your point here?

Biden denies supporting the green new deal while touting it as his plan on his website. Either he is lying or he has no idea that it is touted as his plan on his website. And then he denies supporting defunding police or supporting rioters/ BLM and ANTIFA...while his VP running mate does both in public via the media.

Biden is a pragmatist. He always has been

He realizes the Green New Deal is a non-starter
So he is adapting its ideal to something that is achievable.

Of course, Republicans will oppose anything that helps the environment

More likely he has no clue what he supports because he is coached in public and has no say over his webpage.

Your responses are nothing but parroting and display zero personal thought or reflection. You are not actually saying anything other than “Biden and Democrats by their nature are awful and will always be”. I can tune into Tucker Carlson for that if I’m interested. So please come proper if you come at all.

 

[rightwinger]

Without even touching Republican or Democrat party doctrine, Biden showed a willingness to be the president of and for all Americans (US citizens if calling people who live in the US “Americans” sets off your injustice meter) not just the ones who vote or financially back him. He showed this by clearly telling the far left wing of his party that they did not win the primary and will not have the final say in his policies. That should hearten anyone who finds President Trump’s personality problematic but finds walking toward socialism even more so.

Weak feeble Joe is going to fight off the far left loons in is party? After appointing one his running mate? Not likely.

He already has

Do you see much of Liz Warren or Bernie these days?
Kamala is not Sara Palin running around with her own agenda

I notice they have been propping up AOC. Another left loon.

I’m not sure what you expect me to say to you, if you are starting from a place where you think Biden is not being genuine when he condemns the green new deal on national tv. As for Harris, not sure you have done your research there. A bunch of folks sitting in jail right now might not agree with your assessment. It is as if you have substituted the word Democrat for the words Radical Socialists. If you already are so firmly planted in your truth that there is no room for discussion of differing ideas, what is your point here?

Biden denies supporting the green new deal while touting it as his plan on his website. Either he is lying or he has no idea that it is touted as his plan on his website. And then he denies supporting defunding police or supporting rioters/ BLM and ANTIFA...while his VP running mate does both in public via the media.

Biden is a pragmatist. He always has been

He realizes the Green New Deal is a non-starter
So he is adapting its ideal to something that is achievable.

Of course, Republicans will oppose anything that helps the environment

More likely he has no clue what he supports because he is coached in public and has no say over his webpage.

My money says Biden is more knowledgeable than Crooked Donnie on the environment and many, many other subjects

 

[BlueGin]

Without even touching Republican or Democrat party doctrine, Biden showed a willingness to be the president of and for all Americans (US citizens if calling people who live in the US “Americans” sets off your injustice meter) not just the ones who vote or financially back him. He showed this by clearly telling the far left wing of his party that they did not win the primary and will not have the final say in his policies. That should hearten anyone who finds President Trump’s personality problematic but finds walking toward socialism even more so.

Weak feeble Joe is going to fight off the far left loons in is party? After appointing one his running mate? Not likely.

He already has

Do you see much of Liz Warren or Bernie these days?
Kamala is not Sara Palin running around with her own agenda

I notice they have been propping up AOC. Another left loon.

I’m not sure what you expect me to say to you, if you are starting from a place where you think Biden is not being genuine when he condemns the green new deal on national tv. As for Harris, not sure you have done your research there. A bunch of folks sitting in jail right now might not agree with your assessment. It is as if you have substituted the word Democrat for the words Radical Socialists. If you already are so firmly planted in your truth that there is no room for discussion of differing ideas, what is your point here?

Biden denies supporting the green new deal while touting it as his plan on his website. Either he is lying or he has no idea that it is touted as his plan on his website. And then he denies supporting defunding police or supporting rioters/ BLM and ANTIFA...while his VP running mate does both in public via the media.

Biden is a pragmatist. He always has been

He realizes the Green New Deal is a non-starter
So he is adapting its ideal to something that is achievable.

Of course, Republicans will oppose anything that helps the environment

More likely he has no clue what he supports because he is coached in public and has no say over his webpage.

Your responses are nothing but parroting and display zero personal thought or reflection. You are not actually saying anything other than “Biden and Democrats by their nature are awful and will always be”. I can tune into Tucker Carlson for that if I’m interested. So please come proper if you come at all.

If you want me to feel Biden is genuine or even competent and running his own campaign it’s not going to happen ( he isn’t). The democrats have proven themselves to be completely corrupt with their COVID power grabs over the last several months and their out right lying. Biden is a dithering buffoon that has no business running for president . Do I believe everything the republicans say? Hell no...they aren’t exactly speaking up against any of this shit in a meaningful way. You can listen to whomever you want no one cares. I will reply to whatever comments I feel inclined to. You can either deal with it or put me on ignore.

 

[rightwinger]

Without even touching Republican or Democrat party doctrine, Biden showed a willingness to be the president of and for all Americans (US citizens if calling people who live in the US “Americans” sets off your injustice meter) not just the ones who vote or financially back him. He showed this by clearly telling the far left wing of his party that they did not win the primary and will not have the final say in his policies. That should hearten anyone who finds President Trump’s personality problematic but finds walking toward socialism even more so.

Weak feeble Joe is going to fight off the far left loons in is party? After appointing one his running mate? Not likely.

He already has

Do you see much of Liz Warren or Bernie these days?
Kamala is not Sara Palin running around with her own agenda

I notice they have been propping up AOC. Another left loon.

I’m not sure what you expect me to say to you, if you are starting from a place where you think Biden is not being genuine when he condemns the green new deal on national tv. As for Harris, not sure you have done your research there. A bunch of folks sitting in jail right now might not agree with your assessment. It is as if you have substituted the word Democrat for the words Radical Socialists. If you already are so firmly planted in your truth that there is no room for discussion of differing ideas, what is your point here?

Biden denies supporting the green new deal while touting it as his plan on his website. Either he is lying or he has no idea that it is touted as his plan on his website. And then he denies supporting defunding police or supporting rioters/ BLM and ANTIFA...while his VP running mate does both in public via the media.

Biden is a pragmatist. He always has been

He realizes the Green New Deal is a non-starter
So he is adapting its ideal to something that is achievable.

Of course, Republicans will oppose anything that helps the environment

More likely he has no clue what he supports because he is coached in public and has no say over his webpage.

Your responses are nothing but parroting and display zero personal thought or reflection. You are not actually saying anything other than “Biden and Democrats by their nature are awful and will always be”. I can tune into Tucker Carlson for that if I’m interested. So please come proper if you come at all.

If you want me to feel Biden is genuine or even competent and running his own campaign it’s not going to happen. The democrats have proven themselves to be completely corrupt with their COVID power grabs over the last several months and their out right lying. Biden is a dithering buffoon that has no business running for president . Do I believe everything the republicans say? Hell no...they aren’t exactly speaking up against any of this shit in a meaningful way. You can listen to whomever you want no one cares. I will reply to whatever comments I feel inclined to. You can either deal with it or put me on ignore.

Who gives a shit?
You are not voting for Biden anyway

 

[BlueGin]

Without even touching Republican or Democrat party doctrine, Biden showed a willingness to be the president of and for all Americans (US citizens if calling people who live in the US “Americans” sets off your injustice meter) not just the ones who vote or financially back him. He showed this by clearly telling the far left wing of his party that they did not win the primary and will not have the final say in his policies. That should hearten anyone who finds President Trump’s personality problematic but finds walking toward socialism even more so.

Weak feeble Joe is going to fight off the far left loons in is party? After appointing one his running mate? Not likely.

He already has

Do you see much of Liz Warren or Bernie these days?
Kamala is not Sara Palin running around with her own agenda

I notice they have been propping up AOC. Another left loon.

I’m not sure what you expect me to say to you, if you are starting from a place where you think Biden is not being genuine when he condemns the green new deal on national tv. As for Harris, not sure you have done your research there. A bunch of folks sitting in jail right now might not agree with your assessment. It is as if you have substituted the word Democrat for the words Radical Socialists. If you already are so firmly planted in your truth that there is no room for discussion of differing ideas, what is your point here?

Biden denies supporting the green new deal while touting it as his plan on his website. Either he is lying or he has no idea that it is touted as his plan on his website. And then he denies supporting defunding police or supporting rioters/ BLM and ANTIFA...while his VP running mate does both in public via the media.

Biden is a pragmatist. He always has been

He realizes the Green New Deal is a non-starter
So he is adapting its ideal to something that is achievable.

Of course, Republicans will oppose anything that helps the environment

More likely he has no clue what he supports because he is coached in public and has no say over his webpage.

Your responses are nothing but parroting and display zero personal thought or reflection. You are not actually saying anything other than “Biden and Democrats by their nature are awful and will always be”. I can tune into Tucker Carlson for that if I’m interested. So please come proper if you come at all.

If you want me to feel Biden is genuine or even competent and running his own campaign it’s not going to happen. The democrats have proven themselves to be completely corrupt with their COVID power grabs over the last several months and their out right lying. Biden is a dithering buffoon that has no business running for president . Do I believe everything the republicans say? Hell no...they aren’t exactly speaking up against any of this shit in a meaningful way. You can listen to whomever you want no one cares. I will reply to whatever comments I feel inclined to. You can either deal with it or put me on ignore.

Who gives a shit?
You are not voting for Biden anyway

And?
What does that have to do with posting opinions on his performance or mental health?
The fact that you won’t vote for Trump doesn’t keep you from posting about him constantly.

 

[EL Rich]

Without even touching Republican or Democrat party doctrine, Biden showed a willingness to be the president of and for all Americans (US citizens if calling people who live in the US “Americans” sets off your injustice meter) not just the ones who vote or financially back him. He showed this by clearly telling the far left wing of his party that they did not win the primary and will not have the final say in his policies. That should hearten anyone who finds President Trump’s personality problematic but finds walking toward socialism even more so.

Weak feeble Joe is going to fight off the far left loons in is party? After appointing one his running mate? Not likely.

He already has

Do you see much of Liz Warren or Bernie these days?
Kamala is not Sara Palin running around with her own agenda

I notice they have been propping up AOC. Another left loon.

I’m not sure what you expect me to say to you, if you are starting from a place where you think Biden is not being genuine when he condemns the green new deal on national tv. As for Harris, not sure you have done your research there. A bunch of folks sitting in jail right now might not agree with your assessment. It is as if you have substituted the word Democrat for the words Radical Socialists. If you already are so firmly planted in your truth that there is no room for discussion of differing ideas, what is your point here?

Biden denies supporting the green new deal while touting it as his plan on his website. Either he is lying or he has no idea that it is touted as his plan on his website. And then he denies supporting defunding police or supporting rioters/ BLM and ANTIFA...while his VP running mate does both in public via the media.

Biden is a pragmatist. He always has been

He realizes the Green New Deal is a non-starter
So he is adapting its ideal to something that is achievable.

Of course, Republicans will oppose anything that helps the environment

More likely he has no clue what he supports because he is coached in public and has no say over his webpage.

Your responses are nothing but parroting and display zero personal thought or reflection. You are not actually saying anything other than “Biden and Democrats by their nature are awful and will always be”. I can tune into Tucker Carlson for that if I’m interested. So please come proper if you come at all.

If you want me to feel Biden is genuine or even competent and running his own campaign it’s not going to happen. The democrats have proven themselves to be completely corrupt with their COVID power grabs over the last several months and their out right lying. Biden is a dithering buffoon that has no business running for president . Do I believe everything the republicans say? Hell no...they aren’t exactly speaking up against any of this shit in a meaningful way. You can listen to whomever you want no one cares. I will reply to whatever comments I feel inclined to. You can either deal with it or put me on ignore.

Who gives a shit?
You are not voting for Biden anyway

And?
What does that have to do with posting opinions on his performance or mental health?
The fact that you won’t vote for Trump doesn’t keep you from posting about him constantly.

First, you have me confused with a whole other body. I make it a point to avoid disparaging the President. I think all it achieves is insulting folks like you, for no reason other than we disagree. That being said, if all you do is spew someone else’s ideas, I really don’t need to listen that closely because I can get a more complete version by going to the source. I have been trying to engage with you about our different points of view, but you just seem interested in “winning an argument” by using talking points that dI’d not originate with you. Do I believe Joe Biden is going to be great President? No I do not. But I do believe he will be “normally incompetent“. To me that would be a welcome change. I fear that the past three administrations in the executive branch have all disregarded and disrupted some of the norms that allow a democracy to function. So to me, at least, this has less to do with Trump and his Presidency as it does with the understanding that when democratic governments are working well, it is boring. I do not want a Reality show happening in the Oval Office whether that show be, “Meet the Obama’s; They’re just like you!” Or “Trumpworld”. Both seem to me to be all style and almost no substance. And because I love this country and the ideals of our founding documents, I’m not just going to complain, but I’ll even give you an alternative...Admiral William McRaven. But since he is way to smart to jump into an impossible situation, I’m stuck again choosing between two very imperfect choices.

 

[BlueGin]

Without even touching Republican or Democrat party doctrine, Biden showed a willingness to be the president of and for all Americans (US citizens if calling people who live in the US “Americans” sets off your injustice meter) not just the ones who vote or financially back him. He showed this by clearly telling the far left wing of his party that they did not win the primary and will not have the final say in his policies. That should hearten anyone who finds President Trump’s personality problematic but finds walking toward socialism even more so.

Weak feeble Joe is going to fight off the far left loons in is party? After appointing one his running mate? Not likely.

He already has

Do you see much of Liz Warren or Bernie these days?
Kamala is not Sara Palin running around with her own agenda

I notice they have been propping up AOC. Another left loon.

I’m not sure what you expect me to say to you, if you are starting from a place where you think Biden is not being genuine when he condemns the green new deal on national tv. As for Harris, not sure you have done your research there. A bunch of folks sitting in jail right now might not agree with your assessment. It is as if you have substituted the word Democrat for the words Radical Socialists. If you already are so firmly planted in your truth that there is no room for discussion of differing ideas, what is your point here?

Biden denies supporting the green new deal while touting it as his plan on his website. Either he is lying or he has no idea that it is touted as his plan on his website. And then he denies supporting defunding police or supporting rioters/ BLM and ANTIFA...while his VP running mate does both in public via the media.

Biden is a pragmatist. He always has been

He realizes the Green New Deal is a non-starter
So he is adapting its ideal to something that is achievable.

Of course, Republicans will oppose anything that helps the environment

More likely he has no clue what he supports because he is coached in public and has no say over his webpage.

Your responses are nothing but parroting and display zero personal thought or reflection. You are not actually saying anything other than “Biden and Democrats by their nature are awful and will always be”. I can tune into Tucker Carlson for that if I’m interested. So please come proper if you come at all.

If you want me to feel Biden is genuine or even competent and running his own campaign it’s not going to happen. The democrats have proven themselves to be completely corrupt with their COVID power grabs over the last several months and their out right lying. Biden is a dithering buffoon that has no business running for president . Do I believe everything the republicans say? Hell no...they aren’t exactly speaking up against any of this shit in a meaningful way. You can listen to whomever you want no one cares. I will reply to whatever comments I feel inclined to. You can either deal with it or put me on ignore.

Who gives a shit?
You are not voting for Biden anyway

And?
What does that have to do with posting opinions on his performance or mental health?
The fact that you won’t vote for Trump doesn’t keep you from posting about him constantly.

First, you have me confused with a whole other body. I make it a point to avoid disparaging the President. I think all it achieves is insulting folks like you, for no reason other than we disagree. That being said, if all you do is spew someone else’s ideas, I really don’t need to listen that closely because I can get a more complete version by going to the source. I have been trying to engage with you about our different points of view, but you just seem interested in “winning an argument” by using talking points that dI’d not originate with you. Do I believe Joe Biden is going to be great President? No I do not. But I do believe he will be “normally incompetent“. To me that would be a welcome change. I fear that the past three administrations in the executive branch have all disregarded and disrupted some of the norms that allow a democracy to function. So to me, at least, this has less to do with Trump and his Presidency as it does with the understanding that when democratic governments are working well, it is boring. I do not want a Reality show happening in the Oval Office whether that show be, “Meet the Obama’s; They’re just like you!” Or “Trumpworld”. Both seem to me to be all style and almost no substance. And because I love this country and the ideals of our founding documents, I’m not just going to complain, but I’ll even give you an alternative...Admiral William McRaven. But since he is way to smart to jump into an impossible situation, I’m stuck again choosing between two very imperfect choices.

You were not trying to engage in a conversation of different points of view....you were engaging in self righteous lecturing and dismissIng opinions “ as parroting others talking points”. Feel free to piss off.

 

[JoeB131]

Antifa is a terrorist organization that has / is based on an ideology and goal. The same goes for BLM.

No, they are Americans who have a valid complaint with their government.

That is not the case. Like it or not, 'BLM' is now associated with extreme violence, with looting, burning, assaulting, raping, murdering, 'burning it down', with fascist, Marxists, with cop assassinations / attacks, etc... It no longer has anything to do with George Floyd.

Oh, please. Most of the demostrations have been peaceful... and there's just as much violence coming from the Proud Boys and other racists.

 

[BluesLegend]

Biden promised trillions in tax increase and trillions more in government handouts without any plan to pay for it. He has no clue about the consequence of his so called plans. If the country votes for this imbecile the country deserves what they get.