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Conservatives never actually offer anything
They will tell you what they do not like but will never allow themselves to be pinned down on what they actually support
You are either a lying cultist or a very stupid dimocrap.
Come to think of it, they're about the same....
Still waiting on that Healthcare Plan
The only fair method of taxation is a steeply progressive income tax. Our tax policy should be reformed to add more tax brackets and to increase marginal tax rates at every level to a maximum rate of at least 90% on the top tax bracket. That would spread the cost of American burden fairly.
Might want to relearn the definition of fair. I don't not agree with what you think is right or acceptable, nor does over half the country.1fair
adjective \ˈfer\ : agreeing with what is thought to be right or acceptable
: treating people in a way that does not favor some over others
: not too harsh or critical
I want a tax system that is equitable. Meaning that each person is taxed at the same rate, regardless of income.
Take your own advice. Fairness does not mean everyone is treated the same way. Doing so would favor some over others.
That is not equitable. For taxation, equity is a the degree of burden a tax creates. Some taxpayers might not be able to bear the same tax rate as others.
You are either a lying cultist or a very stupid dimocrap.
Come to think of it, they're about the same....
Still waiting on that Healthcare Plan
Sometimes leaving well enough alone makes more sense than fucking things up completely... like we're now seeing.
The only fair method of taxation is a steeply progressive income tax. Our tax policy should be reformed to add more tax brackets and to increase marginal tax rates at every level to a maximum rate of at least 90% on the top tax bracket. That would spread the cost of American burden fairly.
So, it's fair to shoulder one segment of the population with the bulk of the tax burden?
How in ay way is it fair to have the majority of Americans paying nothing?
Seriously? I think we have a winner for most inane statement of the week, and it's only Monday. If fairness does not mean treating everyone the same, then what else could it possibly mean? This is truly monumental in its gross stupidity and thoughtlessness.The only fair method of taxation is a steeply progressive income tax. Our tax policy should be reformed to add more tax brackets and to increase marginal tax rates at every level to a maximum rate of at least 90% on the top tax bracket. That would spread the cost of American burden fairly.
Might want to relearn the definition of fair. I don't not agree with what you think is right or acceptable, nor does over half the country.1fair
adjective \ˈfer\ : agreeing with what is thought to be right or acceptable
: treating people in a way that does not favor some over others
: not too harsh or critical
I want a tax system that is equitable. Meaning that each person is taxed at the same rate, regardless of income.
Take your own advice. Fairness does not mean everyone is treated the same way. Doing so would favor some over others.
Democrats are so fucking greedy, they want to live in this country on everyone elses money. Talk about 'entitlements"Republicans are so fucking greedy, they want to live in this country for "free". Talk about "entitlements"
Republicans are so fucking greedy, they want to live in this country for "free". Talk about "entitlements"
The only fair method of taxation is a steeply progressive income tax. Our tax policy should be reformed to add more tax brackets and to increase marginal tax rates at every level to a maximum rate of at least 90% on the top tax bracket. That would spread the cost of American burden fairly.
So, it's fair to shoulder one segment of the population with the bulk of the tax burden?
Yes.
How in ay way is it fair to have the majority of Americans paying nothing?
It's a matter of public opinion. If the majority thinks it's fair, it's fair.
Republicans are so fucking greedy, they want to live in this country for "free". Talk about "entitlements"
The very definition says otherwise. I even posted it for you.The only fair method of taxation is a steeply progressive income tax. Our tax policy should be reformed to add more tax brackets and to increase marginal tax rates at every level to a maximum rate of at least 90% on the top tax bracket. That would spread the cost of American burden fairly.
Might want to relearn the definition of fair. I don't not agree with what you think is right or acceptable, nor does over half the country.1fair
adjective \ˈfer\ : agreeing with what is thought to be right or acceptable
: treating people in a way that does not favor some over others
: not too harsh or critical
I want a tax system that is equitable. Meaning that each person is taxed at the same rate, regardless of income.
Take your own advice. Fairness does not mean everyone is treated the same way. Doing so would favor some over others.
That is not equitable. For taxation, equity is a the degree of burden a tax creates. Some taxpayers might not be able to bear the same tax rate as others.
Because the welfare class people are generally more numerous so can vote themselves more money from productive people and idiots like JoeSteal can call it "fair".So, it's fair to shoulder one segment of the population with the bulk of the tax burden?
Yes.
How in ay way is it fair to have the majority of Americans paying nothing?
It's a matter of public opinion. If the majority thinks it's fair, it's fair.
Why?
You are either a lying cultist or a very stupid dimocrap.
Come to think of it, they're about the same....
Still waiting on that Healthcare Plan
I've shown five of them to you three times. Not my fault you're too stupid to read them.
If I can find one written in crayon, I'll post if for you.
Stop stalking me bitch. You think I don't know what you're doing? Asking the same question over and over while refusing to acknowledge that I've answered it?
That's stalking. Stop it
Somebody anybody show me how it would work out IF we repealed the 16th.
All of a sudden, the debt accrued by tax and spend methods would do what exactly?
The government would honor its debt and obligations exactly HOW with no assured income.
Like I said. Repeal the 16th. But do you declare bankruptcy before or after?
You gotta do something with that national debt. What is it you all think could be done?
After the income from the income tax is gone?
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With the 2014 election just around the corner conservatives have the opportunity to win the hearts and minds of the American people by offering real tax reform. Have most Americans not witnessed the progressives disastrous and slavish experiment associated with the 16th Amendment and taxes levied on incomes without apportionment? Have we not recently seen how this very tax has been used during election time to punish and harass those who dare to speak out and against our despotic federal government? Have we not also witnessed for generations how this despicable tax is used by our federal government to not only redistribute the paychecks of Americas hard working productive citizens to fund Washingtons free cheese wagon, but how it is also used to tighten the regulatory iron fist of government around the necks of Americans labor, businesses and industries?
Our founding fathers were well aware of the slavish and oppressive nature of taxes which are levied directly upon the people. In speaking of this kind of tax and the evils of an unrestrained power to impose direct taxes, Representative Williams during a debate on Direct Taxes on January 18th, 1797 warns his colleagues:
"History, Mr. Williams said, informed them of the annihilation of nations by means of direct taxation. He referred gentlemen to the situation of the Roman Empire in its innocence, and asked them whether they had any direct taxes? No. Indirect taxes and taxes upon luxuries and spices from the Indies were their sources of revenue; but, as soon as they changed their system to direct taxation, it operated to their ruin; their children were sold as slaves, and the Empire fell from its splendor. Shall we then follow this system? He trusted not."
Unfortunately progressives were able to con the American People in the early 1900s and convinced them to adopt the 16th Amendment. At the time progressives made their appeal to the average working person who was not to be taxed under the proposed Amendment. It was fraudulently sold to the working person as a means to get those greedy corporations to pay their fair share in taxes.
During the 16th Amendment debates we find Mr. HEFLIN agitated the working class people into supporting the amendment by saying An income tax seeks to reach the unearned wealth of the country and to make it pay its share. 44 Cong. Rec. 4420 (1909). Note the wording unearned wealth as distinguished from earned wages.
And this was shortly after Mr. BARTLETT of Georgia had begun the class warfare attack by preaching to the working poor: As I see it, the fairest of all taxes is of this nature [a tax on gains, profits and unearned income], laid according to wealth, and its universal adoption would be a benign blessing to mankind. The door is shut against it, and the people must continue to groan beneath the burdens of tariff taxes and robbery under the guise of law. 44 Cong. Rec. 4414 (1909).
But what these cunning con artists really had in mind was to create a taxing power to allow the expansion of the federal governments manipulative iron fist over the economy which would eventually be used to also squeeze the working peoples earned wages from their pockets in a more devastating manner than any tariff had ever done, and eventually make them dependent upon government for their subsistence! But the progressives, after the adoption of the 16th Amendment, patiently waited for one generation to pass when the intentions for which the amendment was adopted would be forgotten and a war to begin before completing their mission, which was the imposition of the Temporary Victory Tax of 1942!
FDRs class warfare tax unconstitutionally expanded taxes on gains, profits and unearned income to include a 5 percent temporary tax upon working peoples earned wages. And although the 16th Amendment was sold as a way to tax unearned income, the temporary tax on working peoples earned wages was sold as a patriotic necessity in the war effort.
And here we are today, 70 years later, and this thieving tax, which robs the bread which poor working people have earned by the sweat of their brow, is still to this very day being collected, and its burden has constantly increased over the years, forcing millions upon millions of poor working people into a state of poverty and then into a dependency upon government for their subsistence ___ an outcome which is needed by our corrupted political leaders to maintain a permanent and captive, dependent voting block!
Now, with this in mind the question is, with another election upon us, will Senator Ted Cruz and conservatives step forward and offer real tax reform, or will they do a Mark Levin fan dance in order to keep alive a tyrannical tax which every despotic government loves? And how may this type of taxing power be withdrawn from Congress reach? It can begin with conservatives who run for office in 2014 to propose a 32 word amendment to our Constitution which declares:
The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money
These words, if added to our Constitution, would end taxes calculated from incomes and return us to a consumption based taxing system, which is what our founders intended, and which proved to pave the way for America to become the economic marvel of the world because it held Congress greedy taxing appetite in check! Hamilton stresses this in Federalist No 21 with regard to taxes on articles of consumption:
There is no method of steering clear of this inconvenience, but by authorizing the national government to raise its own revenues in its own way. Imposts, excises, and, in general, all duties upon articles of consumption, may be compared to a fluid, which will, in time, find its level with the means of paying them. The amount to be contributed by each citizen will in a degree be at his own option, and can be regulated by an attention to his resources. The rich may be extravagant, the poor can be frugal; and private oppression may always be avoided by a judicious selection of objects proper for such impositions. If inequalities should arise in some States from duties on particular objects, these will, in all probability, be counter balanced by proportional inequalities in other States, from the duties on other objects. In the course of time and things, an equilibrium, as far as it is attainable in so complicated a subject, will be established everywhere. Or, if inequalities should still exist, they would neither be so great in their degree, so uniform in their operation, nor so odious in their appearance, as those which would necessarily spring from quotas, upon any scale that can possibly be devised.
It is a signal advantage of taxes on articles of consumption that they contain in their own nature a security against excess. They prescribe their own limit; which cannot be exceeded without defeating the end proposed, that is, an extension of the revenue. When applied to this object, the saying is as just as it is witty, that, "in political arithmetic, two and two do not always make four .'' If duties are too high, they lessen the consumption; the collection is eluded; and the product to the treasury is not so great as when they are confined within proper and moderate bounds. This forms a complete barrier against any material oppression of the citizens by taxes of this class, and is itself a natural limitation of the power of imposing them.
I suspect if conservatives running for office this coming election unite in an agreement to send the above 32 word amendment to the States for ratification if they are elected, it will not only verify they are true conservatives who want to return to our nations founding principles which includes its original tax plan, but they are willing to confront the existing Washington establishment head on which now thrives from and worships the socialist/progressive inspired tax calculated from profits, gains and other incomes.
JWK
Honest money and honest taxation, the Key to Americas future Prosperity ___ from Prosperity Restored by the State Rate Tax Plan, no longer in print.
The only fair method of taxation is a steeply progressive income tax. Our tax policy should be reformed to add more tax brackets and to increase marginal tax rates at every level to a maximum rate of at least 90% on the top tax bracket. That would spread the cost of American burden fairly.
Deany lives in an alternate Universe and pokes his nose into the real one from time to time to exhibit it.Republicans are so fucking greedy, they want to live in this country for "free". Talk about "entitlements"
Nobody ever said that you fucking dimwit.
Deany lives in an alternate Universe and pokes his nose into the real one from time to time to exhibit it.Republicans are so fucking greedy, they want to live in this country for "free". Talk about "entitlements"
Nobody ever said that you fucking dimwit.
Take your own advice. Fairness does not mean everyone is treated the same way. Doing so would favor some over others.
Seriously? I think we have a winner for most inane statement of the week, and it's only Monday. If fairness does not mean treating everyone the same, then what else could it possibly mean? This is truly monumental in its gross stupidity and thoughtlessness.
