Zone1 Will SCOTUS overturn VA gerrymandering to create Dem districts?

[Lisa558]

Spanberger, the radical leftist now serving as governor of VA, spearheaded a campaign to gerrymander her way into ALL districts, sans one, being held by a Democrat, and thus turning a purple state into a deep blue one. (Previously, it was Dem 6 and Republican 5; now it will be Dem 10 and Rep 1.)

The problem, of course, is that nearly half (45%) of Virginians are Republican and now will have nobody (except one) to represent their interests in Congress.

The issue is that the question was framed in a very misleading way, obscuring the objective and confusing voters. It was phrased as “vote yes to restore fairness” when in fact a yes vote very unfairly eliminated all but one of the Republican districts.

Virginia Democrats' Redistricting Gamble Succeeds in Special Election - The Daily Signal

Virginians voted in favor of Democrat Gov. Abigail Spanberger and Democrats’ effort to completely overhaul the commonwealth’s congressional map to favor

www.dailysignal.com

 

[JohnDB]

Quite possibly.....if not today then tomorrow.

 

[Natural Citizen]

While the whole gerrymandering thing is surely antithetical to democracy itself, it's a real shame about Virginia specifically. It was a bedrock of America's founding, going all the way back to the first Virginia assembly in 1619.

 

[shockedcanadian]

The government should legally challenge this certainly.

 

[Lisa558]

Quite possibly.....if not today then tomorrow.

Wow. That would be great.

It won’t be in time to overturn the VA Democrat takeover, though. Midterms are only 7 months away.

 

[Lisa558]

The government should legally challenge this certainly.

It think it will, given how close the vote was, and how misleading the ballot question was.

 

[JoeB131]

Spanberger, the radical leftist now serving as governor of VA, spearheaded a campaign to gerrymander her way into ALL districts, sans one, being held by a Democrat, and thus turning a purple state into a deep blue one. (Previously, it was Dem 6 and Republican 5; now it will be Dem 10 and Rep 1.)

The problem, of course, is that nearly half (45%) of Virginians are Republican and now will have nobody (except one) to represent their interests in Congress.

The issue is that the question was framed in a very misleading way, obscuring the objective and confusing voters. It was phrased as “vote yes to restore fairness” when in fact a yes vote very unfairly eliminated all but one of the Republican districts.

Virginia Democrats' Redistricting Gamble Succeeds in Special Election - The Daily Signal

Virginians voted in favor of Democrat Gov. Abigail Spanberger and Democrats’ effort to completely overhaul the commonwealth’s congressional map to favor

www.dailysignal.com

SCOTUS has upheld GOP gerrymandering schemes in other states, so they really don't have a leg to stand on here.

And those schemes weren't supported in referendums.

If Republicans want to win in these new districts, they need to find ways to appeal to the people who live in them.

 

[JoeB131]

It think it will, given how close the vote was, and how misleading the ballot question was.

Nope. The court has upheld gerrymandering in other states, even when it was done by the legislature and not by popular ballot.

 

[DGS49]

How the case would get to the USSC is unclear to me.

IMHO, racial, ethnic, religious, and party affiliation information should NOT be exposed when drawing district lines.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Spanberger, the radical leftist now serving as governor of VA, spearheaded a campaign to gerrymander her way into ALL districts, sans one, being held by a Democrat, and thus turning a purple state into a deep blue one. (Previously, it was Dem 6 and Republican 5; now it will be Dem 10 and Rep 1.)

The problem, of course, is that nearly half (45%) of Virginians are Republican and now will have nobody (except one) to represent their interests in Congress.

The issue is that the question was framed in a very misleading way, obscuring the objective and confusing voters. It was phrased as “vote yes to restore fairness” when in fact a yes vote very unfairly eliminated all but one of the Republican districts.

Virginia Democrats' Redistricting Gamble Succeeds in Special Election - The Daily Signal

Virginians voted in favor of Democrat Gov. Abigail Spanberger and Democrats’ effort to completely overhaul the commonwealth’s congressional map to favor

www.dailysignal.com

All gerrymandering is re-gerrymandering, because there is no state that does not do this, as far as I know.

If this keeps up, Electing Representatives will be a winner take all process, state by state, just like the electoral college.

Virginia could have just as easily gerrymandered themselves 11 to 0, instead of 10 to 1. They left the one Republican district in, hoping that the court would call it "bi-partisan," like the media does whenever 2 Republicans side with 258 Democrats in Congress.

Texas could probably figure out some bizarre geographical geometry to become 38 to 1 Reps to Dems instead of 25 to 13 as it is now.

To answer the question, I believe the highest probability is that the courts don't want to touch it. Just because, it would require them to come up with a test to measure whether a state's districting plan is "fair," even though I don't believe that word is in the Constitution.

Or, next most likely, they could simply rule that this one Virginia plan violates the equal protection clause, order Virginia to return to its former gerrymandering, with implied consent to re-gerrymander again.

But that would be inviting more cases, as Virginia gerrymanders itself into a 9 to 2, then an 8 to 3, until the court accepts a plan.

 

[1srelluc]

No, it's up to the Virginia Supreme Court as outlined in the thread i posted.

 

[JohnDB]

Wow. That would be great.

It won’t be in time to overturn the VA Democrat takeover, though. Midterms are only 7 months away.

Yeah....
Doesn't look like the SAVE act is going to get passed either in time.

But there's going to be hell to pay for these things not getting done. And current republican leadership is going to be the ones to pay.
It's gonna hurt a LOT in 2.5 years when the senate is brand new and truly conservative. American CITIZENS are angry enough to vote "none of the above" and make that really happen.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

The government should legally challenge this certainly.

The Supreme Court's stance on gerrymandering, particularly in the case Rucho v. Common Cause, is that federal courts cannot review claims of partisan gerrymandering, as these issues are considered non-justiciable political questions outside their jurisdiction. This ruling effectively allows states to draw district maps that may favor one political party without federal judicial intervention.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Spanberger, the radical leftist now serving as governor of VA, spearheaded a campaign to gerrymander her way into ALL districts, sans one, being held by a Democrat, and thus turning a purple state into a deep blue one. (Previously, it was Dem 6 and Republican 5; now it will be Dem 10 and Rep 1.)

The problem, of course, is that nearly half (45%) of Virginians are Republican and now will have nobody (except one) to represent their interests in Congress.

The issue is that the question was framed in a very misleading way, obscuring the objective and confusing voters. It was phrased as “vote yes to restore fairness” when in fact a yes vote very unfairly eliminated all but one of the Republican districts.

Virginia Democrats' Redistricting Gamble Succeeds in Special Election - The Daily Signal

Virginians voted in favor of Democrat Gov. Abigail Spanberger and Democrats’ effort to completely overhaul the commonwealth’s congressional map to favor

www.dailysignal.com

The Texas redistricting went to the SCOTUS, they said (and I paraphrase): "Redistricting to consolidate political power is A-OKay."

WW

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah....
Doesn't look like the SAVE act is going to get passed either in time.

But there's going to be hell to pay for these things not getting done. And current republican leadership is going to be the ones to pay.
It's gonna hurt a LOT in 2.5 years when the senate is brand new and truly conservative. American CITIZENS are angry enough to vote "none of the above" and make that really happen.

Actually, after Trump gets done making a hash out of the economy, Republicans will be losing in the deepest red states.

 

[konradv]

Spanberger, the radical leftist now serving as governor of VA, spearheaded a campaign to gerrymander her way into ALL districts, sans one, being held by a Democrat, and thus turning a purple state into a deep blue one. (Previously, it was Dem 6 and Republican 5; now it will be Dem 10 and Rep 1.)

The problem, of course, is that nearly half (45%) of Virginians are Republican and now will have nobody (except one) to represent their interests in Congress.

The issue is that the question was framed in a very misleading way, obscuring the objective and confusing voters. It was phrased as “vote yes to restore fairness” when in fact a yes vote very unfairly eliminated all but one of the Republican districts.

Virginia Democrats' Redistricting Gamble Succeeds in Special Election - The Daily Signal

Virginians voted in favor of Democrat Gov. Abigail Spanberger and Democrats’ effort to completely overhaul the commonwealth’s congressional map to favor

www.dailysignal.com

MAGA whiners!

 

[Natural Citizen]

Actually, after Trump gets done making a hash out of the economy, Republicans will be losing in the deepest red states.

I think that this newer, revised concoction of MAGA seems to think it's a lot bigger than it actually is.

Imagine being in a room with a hundred people in it and 5 of them are making the most noise. That's the reality of it.

Placing that aside, both parties are gonna continue spending us into oblivion regardless of which one holds the gavel. That's a given.

 

[Lisa558]

MAGA whiners!

Leftard cheaters! The only way they could win this election was to confuse the voters, and claim what they were doing was “restoring fairness.”

 

[Lisa558]

The Texas redistricting went to the SCOTUS, they said (and I paraphrase): "Redistricting to consolidate political power is A-OKay."

WW

There was another case in Maryland where the Democrats tried to redistrict their way into a stolen seat, and they were struck down.

So, we’ll see.

 

[Blaster]

This is why Americans have no faith in our political system. It is only a power grab which only benefits one political party and does nothing to improve the lives of the people they represent. I think its time for SCOTUS to end this charade.