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Then dont work at a place with unions.
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Then dont work at a place with unions.
Then dont work at a place with unions.
Bust the heads of the fucking scabs.
Do I make my position clear enough for you pandering quislings of the corporatocracy?
Yes, come bust my head someday when I am not a public-employee and you might find yours splattered all over the wall.
That being said, no need to troll and ruin what might be a promising thread.
Don't you want the truth? I think he's serious. And I think I agree. And trust me, there are a lot more of us than there are of you.
Remember, we are the rabble!!!!
But then, you have the military.
Yes, come bust my head someday when I am not a public-employee and you might find yours splattered all over the wall.
That being said, no need to troll and ruin what might be a promising thread.
Don't you want the truth? I think he's serious. And I think I agree. And trust me, there are a lot more of us than there are of you.
Remember, we are the rabble!!!!
But then, you have the military.
Fuckin-A I'm serious.
We are enjoying, right now, the long term benefits of the short sighted greed of those who sold out the American workers for a few trillion dollars more.
It comes to us as underemployment and unemployment and never-having been-employed-in-the-first place middle class people who can no longer kept the economic engine of America (and as we are now discovering the whole damned world) going.
Scabs, and the managment who hire them, are nothing but fucking tools who are, whether they know it or not, allowing this world, (not just America) to become a neofuedal international one world of K-K-KAPITALISTs.
I've been witnessing the dismantling of what had been the wealthiest fairest, and by fare most benign Empire in human history, indeed the light of democracy, actually, being violated by the rapacious greed of sociopathic capitalist and the tools that suck their asses upon command.
And that beautiful thing, America, was sold out so formerly American industrialists, who were, let's face it become richer than anyone on earth had ever been BECAUSE OF AMERICANS, could invest in third world nations where being a trade unionist means some tool (perhaps like our chum Gunnen, there) comes in the night like the fucking cowards and assassin pukes they are, to kill them.
That is what the MOTU want, and I am not especially sympathetic to the class traitors (and traitors to our nation) who have helped facilitate that decline in American power and wealth.
Then dont work at a place with unions.
Yes, come bust my head someday when I am not a public-employee and you might find yours splattered all over the wall.
That being said, no need to troll and ruin what might be a promising thread.
Don't you want the truth? I think he's serious. And I think I agree. And trust me, there are a lot more of us than there are of you.
Remember, we are the rabble!!!!
But then, you have the military.
Fuckin-A I'm serious.
We are enjoying, right now, the long term benefits of the short sighted greed of those who sold out the American workers for a few trillion dollars more.
It comes to us as underemployment and unemployment and never-having been-employed-in-the-first place! middle class people who can no longer kept the economic engine of America (and as we are now discovering the whole damned world) going.
Scabs, and the managment who hire them, are nothing but fucking tools who are, whether they know it or not, allowing this world, (not just America) to become a neofuedal international one world of K-K-KAPITALISTs.
I've been witnessing the dismantling of what had been the wealthiest fairest, and by fare most benign Empire in human history, indeed the light of democracy, actually, being violated by the rapacious greed of sociopathic capitalism and the tools that suck its ass upon command.
And that beautiful thing, America, was sold out so formerly American industrialists (who had, let's face, it become richer than anyone on earth had ever been BECAUSE OF AMERICANS) could invest in third world nations where being a trade unionist means some tool (perhaps like our chum Gunnen, there) comes in the night like the fucking cowardly assassin pukes they are, to kill them.
That is what the MOTU want, and I am not especially sympathetic to the class traitors (and traitors to our nation) who have helped facilitate that decline in American power and wealth.
Gunnen, I agree with you about today's unions. I am in favor of collective bargaining, but the larger unions are IMHO just as bad as the corporations they're claiming to protect the workers from. I've belonged to the Teamster's Union(12 years) and the UAW (I was forced to join in order to work a long-term contract job for a supplier on the factory floor). Large unions seem to me to be a perfect example of a good idea gone bad.
You like my Thom Hartmann op ed's. Read the one I posted and tell me if it is incorrect.
When the economy is great, workers benefit as wages increase dramatically, with or without unions. If companies don't pay enough, then they will not prosper. On the other hand, when the economy takes a downturn, unions tend to keep businesses from being competitive. This is not to say unions have no good purpose. The reason they came about was due to the fact that business took advantage of their labor for so long. The problem now is that the unions have gone too far, hurting not only the businesses they work for but also themselves directly.
Obviously, some unions are much stronger than others. I think we need to ask ourselves what makes an auto worker worth $45.00 per hour (wages and benefits included), while the butcher at your local union grocery store is only worth $22.50 per hour. Adding to that, we should ask ourselves another question; could those jobs (autoworkers) that are paid $45.00 per hour be filled by people making $30.00 per hour? Would people stand in line for those same jobs at $30.00 per hour?
People constantly complain that we have lost all of our manufacturing jobs. Well, we have priced ourselves out of the market. It is that simple. I'm not against employees making a fair living wage. However, it needs to be competitive on a global basis, within reason.
Then dont work at a place with unions.
not possible in san francisco.....
Don't you want the truth? I think he's serious. And I think I agree. And trust me, there are a lot more of us than there are of you.
Remember, we are the rabble!!!!
But then, you have the military.
Fuckin-A I'm serious.
We are enjoying, right now, the long term benefits of the short sighted greed of those who sold out the American workers for a few trillion dollars more.
It comes to us as underemployment and unemployment and never-having been-employed-in-the-first place! middle class people who can no longer kept the economic engine of America (and as we are now discovering the whole damned world) going.
Scabs, and the managment who hire them, are nothing but fucking tools who are, whether they know it or not, allowing this world, (not just America) to become a neofuedal international one world of K-K-KAPITALISTs.
I've been witnessing the dismantling of what had been the wealthiest fairest, and by fare most benign Empire in human history, indeed the light of democracy, actually, being violated by the rapacious greed of sociopathic capitalism and the tools that suck its ass upon command.
And that beautiful thing, America, was sold out so formerly American industrialists (who had, let's face, it become richer than anyone on earth had ever been BECAUSE OF AMERICANS) could invest in third world nations where being a trade unionist means some tool (perhaps like our chum Gunnen, there) comes in the night like the fucking cowardly assassin pukes they are, to kill them.
That is what the MOTU want, and I am not especially sympathetic to the class traitors (and traitors to our nation) who have helped facilitate that decline in American power and wealth.
Just as you tell people that would rather not work at a union shop, that they should go some other place......
if you don't like the "K-K-KAPITALIST." way........freekin' MOVE !
When the economy was great, the Bush administration looked the other way, and allowed the majority of illegal immigrants in after 9-11. We have no idea of who or what has crossed our southern border due to the policy of allowing people to come into this country to avoid having competition for workers.
You like my Thom Hartmann op ed's. Read the one I posted and tell me if it is incorrect.
By Art Levine, Huffington Post
Posted on February 23, 2009, Printed on February 24, 2009
Why the GOP Really Hates Unions | | AlterNet
The Hoover-like GOP has been working overtime to oppose President Obama's stimulus package while hoping he fails. Meanwhile, a report released yesterday by the Center for American Progress Action Fund essentially underscores the real reasons Republicans and the business community have taken another equally short-sighted economic stance: fighting workers' right to organize. As Unions Are Good For the American Economy points out with irrefutable statistics, unionization raises wages and boosts the economy because it puts more money in the pockets of American workers.
(The report itself, of course, doesn't directly accuse the GOP and corporate interests of opposing economic growth and recovery, but reading its measured analysis of the economic benefit of unions leads to the inescapable conclusion that anti-union business leaders have a misguided zeal for low wages at all cost -- regardless of the impact on their own workers, their firms' productivity, their own long-term profits or the broader economy.)
full story here; Why the GOP Really Hates Unions | Corporate Accountability and WorkPlace | AlterNet
Any liberal or even liberal leaning with a brain (we are a dying breed) hates unions to.
Fuckin-A I'm serious.
We are enjoying, right now, the long term benefits of the short sighted greed of those who sold out the American workers for a few trillion dollars more.
It comes to us as underemployment and unemployment and never-having been-employed-in-the-first place! middle class people who can no longer kept the economic engine of America (and as we are now discovering the whole damned world) going.
Scabs, and the managment who hire them, are nothing but fucking tools who are, whether they know it or not, allowing this world, (not just America) to become a neofuedal international one world of K-K-KAPITALISTs.
I've been witnessing the dismantling of what had been the wealthiest fairest, and by fare most benign Empire in human history, indeed the light of democracy, actually, being violated by the rapacious greed of sociopathic capitalism and the tools that suck its ass upon command.
And that beautiful thing, America, was sold out so formerly American industrialists (who had, let's face, it become richer than anyone on earth had ever been BECAUSE OF AMERICANS) could invest in third world nations where being a trade unionist means some tool (perhaps like our chum Gunnen, there) comes in the night like the fucking cowardly assassin pukes they are, to kill them.
That is what the MOTU want, and I am not especially sympathetic to the class traitors (and traitors to our nation) who have helped facilitate that decline in American power and wealth.
Just as you tell people that would rather not work at a union shop, that they should go some other place......
if you don't like the "K-K-KAPITALIST." way........freekin' MOVE !
Not going anywhere, fellow. We will just change a few rules. A little re-distribution of the wealth to those that create it.