For a president who believes in "Trickle down economics" has failed...tell that to hourly wage workers...

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The president said Wednesday that trickle-down economics “failed” Americans and that “this is the moment” the U.S. will move away from that economic theory.
Under the trickle-down economic theory was that public investment would discourage private investment. Give me a break,” he said.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4071807-biden-bashes-trickle-down-economics/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CHere's%20the%20simple%20truth%20about,Bidenomics%20is%20about%20the%20future.

Not counting inflation, the annual growth in average hourly earnings has dropped to 4.1 percent in March 2024, down from 5.9 percent during the coronavirus turmoil on March 22, according to the Wall Street Journal.

But after counting inflation, wages in President Joe Biden’s migration-inflated economy have remained flat or dropped — especially for the many young Americans who are facing rising rents.
Indeed, many polls that show the majority of Americans reject Biden’s high-migration, low-wage “Bidenomics” economy.
Migration also spurs inflation, chiefly by driving up housing prices amid Biden’s welcome for more than 7 million southern migrants and at least 2 million legal migrants. “Inflation is down but not gone,” Georgieva said at the meeting.

Many business leaders, government agencies, and academics admit that wages are reduced by migration. They include independent academics, the National Academies of Science, the Congressional Budget Office, executives, more academics, New York Times reporters, state officials, unions, more business executives, lobbyists, employees, the Wall Street Journal, federal economists, Goldman Sachs, Goldman Sachs again, oil drillers, Wall Street analysts, fired professionals, legislators, construction workers, New York Times subscribers, Robert Rubin, and even by the Bank of Ireland.
 
The president said Wednesday that trickle-down economics “failed” Americans and that “this is the moment” the U.S. will move away from that economic theory.
Under the trickle-down economic theory was that public investment would discourage private investment. Give me a break,” he said.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4071807-biden-bashes-trickle-down-economics/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CHere's%20the%20simple%20truth%20about,Bidenomics%20is%20about%20the%20future.

Not counting inflation, the annual growth in average hourly earnings has dropped to 4.1 percent in March 2024, down from 5.9 percent during the coronavirus turmoil on March 22, according to the Wall Street Journal.

But after counting inflation, wages in President Joe Biden’s migration-inflated economy have remained flat or dropped — especially for the many young Americans who are facing rising rents.
Indeed, many polls that show the majority of Americans reject Biden’s high-migration, low-wage “Bidenomics” economy.
Migration also spurs inflation, chiefly by driving up housing prices amid Biden’s welcome for more than 7 million southern migrants and at least 2 million legal migrants. “Inflation is down but not gone,” Georgieva said at the meeting.

Many business leaders, government agencies, and academics admit that wages are reduced by migration. They include independent academics, the National Academies of Science, the Congressional Budget Office, executives, more academics, New York Times reporters, state officials, unions, more business executives, lobbyists, employees, the Wall Street Journal, federal economists, Goldman Sachs, Goldman Sachs again, oil drillers, Wall Street analysts, fired professionals, legislators, construction workers, New York Times subscribers, Robert Rubin, and even by the Bank of Ireland.

All those high paying blue collar jobs went overseas during the Bush years. You cheered. Remember? You hate unions.

Now those high paying blue collar manufacturing jobs are gone and those workers had to take lower paying service jobs. YOU fucked those blue collar workers first back in the 2000's. And we continue to send their jobs overseas.

And the CEO's pay went up 1322%.

We have 9 million unfilled jobs, too many baby boomers retiring and not enough workers. Do you want to get your social security? All of it?

 
The president said Wednesday that trickle-down economics “failed” Americans and that “this is the moment” the U.S. will move away from that economic theory.
Under the trickle-down economic theory was that public investment would discourage private investment. Give me a break,” he said.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4071807-biden-bashes-trickle-down-economics/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CHere's%20the%20simple%20truth%20about,Bidenomics%20is%20about%20the%20future.

Not counting inflation, the annual growth in average hourly earnings has dropped to 4.1 percent in March 2024, down from 5.9 percent during the coronavirus turmoil on March 22, according to the Wall Street Journal.

But after counting inflation, wages in President Joe Biden’s migration-inflated economy have remained flat or dropped — especially for the many young Americans who are facing rising rents.
Indeed, many polls that show the majority of Americans reject Biden’s high-migration, low-wage “Bidenomics” economy.
Migration also spurs inflation, chiefly by driving up housing prices amid Biden’s welcome for more than 7 million southern migrants and at least 2 million legal migrants. “Inflation is down but not gone,” Georgieva said at the meeting.

Many business leaders, government agencies, and academics admit that wages are reduced by migration. They include independent academics, the National Academies of Science, the Congressional Budget Office, executives, more academics, New York Times reporters, state officials, unions, more business executives, lobbyists, employees, the Wall Street Journal, federal economists, Goldman Sachs, Goldman Sachs again, oil drillers, Wall Street analysts, fired professionals, legislators, construction workers, New York Times subscribers, Robert Rubin, and even by the Bank of Ireland.
Sigh..that's not what trickle down economics was. The idea was that significant tax cuts for the highest earners and corporations would spur growth and hiring. Therefore, the effect would "trickle down" in the form of higher wages, lower prices, and lower unemployment if the top brackets got their breaks.

Whelp, that didn't happen.
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The president said Wednesday that trickle-down economics “failed” Americans and that “this is the moment” the U.S. will move away from that economic theory.
Under the trickle-down economic theory was that public investment would discourage private investment. Give me a break,” he said.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4071807-biden-bashes-trickle-down-economics/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CHere's%20the%20simple%20truth%20about,Bidenomics%20is%20about%20the%20future.

Not counting inflation, the annual growth in average hourly earnings has dropped to 4.1 percent in March 2024, down from 5.9 percent during the coronavirus turmoil on March 22, according to the Wall Street Journal.

But after counting inflation, wages in President Joe Biden’s migration-inflated economy have remained flat or dropped — especially for the many young Americans who are facing rising rents.
Indeed, many polls that show the majority of Americans reject Biden’s high-migration, low-wage “Bidenomics” economy.
Migration also spurs inflation, chiefly by driving up housing prices amid Biden’s welcome for more than 7 million southern migrants and at least 2 million legal migrants. “Inflation is down but not gone,” Georgieva said at the meeting.

Many business leaders, government agencies, and academics admit that wages are reduced by migration. They include independent academics, the National Academies of Science, the Congressional Budget Office, executives, more academics, New York Times reporters, state officials, unions, more business executives, lobbyists, employees, the Wall Street Journal, federal economists, Goldman Sachs, Goldman Sachs again, oil drillers, Wall Street analysts, fired professionals, legislators, construction workers, New York Times subscribers, Robert Rubin, and even by the Bank of Ireland.


The economy is the #1 issue for voters in 2024.

Meanwhile:

Since Biden took office:

Gasoline: +47.8%
Groceries: +21.1%
Restaurants: +21.4%
Baby food: +30.5%
Pet food: +23.7%
Rent: +20.9%
Electricity: +28.3%
Natural gas: +26.9%
Used cars: +20.9%
Air fare: +32.7%
Public transportation: +22.2%
Real average weekly earnings: -3.9%
 
Nobody cheered about that, lying asshole.

That fact gave heft to the campaigns of both Pat Buchanan and Trump, and to a lesser extent Ron Paul.
I remember in the 2000's you guys did nothing but defend Bush and attack unions.


manufacturing lost about five million jobs in two decades, the low-wage service sector gained almost 30 million jobs Change in U.S. employment overall and for construction, manufacturing, and service industries (millions), 1998–2019​

2
Job Change, 98-2019 (millions)
Construction1.3
Manufacturing-4.7
Services28.2
Total employment25.1

Manufacturing and construction offer good employment opportunities for the non-college-educated workers who make up nearly two thirds of the workforce

As trade deficit soared past $1 trillion, the U.S. lost more than five million manufacturing jobsManufactured goods trade deficit (billions$) and manufacturing employment (millions), 1998–2021​

 
I remember in the 2000's you guys did nothing but defend Bush and attack unions.


manufacturing lost about five million jobs in two decades, the low-wage service sector gained almost 30 million jobs Change in U.S. employment overall and for construction, manufacturing, and service industries (millions), 1998–2019​

2
Job Change, 98-2019 (millions)
Construction1.3
Manufacturing-4.7
Services28.2
Total employment25.1

Manufacturing and construction offer good employment opportunities for the non-college-educated workers who make up nearly two thirds of the workforce

As trade deficit soared past $1 trillion, the U.S. lost more than five million manufacturing jobsManufactured goods trade deficit (billions$) and manufacturing employment (millions), 1998–2021​

I'm not "you guys", lying asshole....And that chart proves nothing.


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This line is a bunch of BS. Inflation is still here, it is not rising as fast but it is still here. Saying it is down, is like saying we're OK because we just survived a bomb attack, but at least it wasn't a nuclear bomb.

Here's the reality, which EVERY person in this country who's name isn't Biden, Obama, Clinton, or Pelosi knows VERY well:

Since Biden took office:

Gasoline: +47.8%
Groceries: +21.1%
Restaurants: +21.4%
Baby food: +30.5%
Pet food: +23.7%
Rent: +20.9%
Electricity: +28.3%
Natural gas: +26.9%
Used cars: +20.9%
Air fare: +32.7%
Public transportation: +22.2%
Real average weekly earnings: -3.9%
 
The president said Wednesday that trickle-down economics “failed” Americans and that “this is the moment” the U.S. will move away from that economic theory.
Under the trickle-down economic theory was that public investment would discourage private investment. Give me a break,” he said.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4071807-biden-bashes-trickle-down-economics/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CHere's%20the%20simple%20truth%20about,Bidenomics%20is%20about%20the%20future.

Not counting inflation, the annual growth in average hourly earnings has dropped to 4.1 percent in March 2024, down from 5.9 percent during the coronavirus turmoil on March 22, according to the Wall Street Journal.

But after counting inflation, wages in President Joe Biden’s migration-inflated economy have remained flat or dropped — especially for the many young Americans who are facing rising rents.
Indeed, many polls that show the majority of Americans reject Biden’s high-migration, low-wage “Bidenomics” economy.
Migration also spurs inflation, chiefly by driving up housing prices amid Biden’s welcome for more than 7 million southern migrants and at least 2 million legal migrants. “Inflation is down but not gone,” Georgieva said at the meeting.

Many business leaders, government agencies, and academics admit that wages are reduced by migration. They include independent academics, the National Academies of Science, the Congressional Budget Office, executives, more academics, New York Times reporters, state officials, unions, more business executives, lobbyists, employees, the Wall Street Journal, federal economists, Goldman Sachs, Goldman Sachs again, oil drillers, Wall Street analysts, fired professionals, legislators, construction workers, New York Times subscribers, Robert Rubin, and even by the Bank of Ireland.
Trickle Down Economics is a con job...

It is a theory well debunked as Voodoo Economics...

It actually is refuted by actually economics which says the best place to give money if you want to boost an economy is the the poor. With extra money the poor spend it far quicker and thus boost the economy...

What you are doing is trying to blame Global Inflation which was pumped by the Trump Oil supply cut on Biden...
You are like a kid doing a shit on the floor and giving out to mommy that she isn't fixing it quick enough.
 
Here's the reality, which EVERY person in this country who's name isn't Biden, Obama, Clinton, or Pelosi knows VERY well:

Since Biden took office:

Gasoline: +47.8%
Groceries: +21.1%
Restaurants: +21.4%
Baby food: +30.5%
Pet food: +23.7%
Rent: +20.9%
Electricity: +28.3%
Natural gas: +26.9%
Used cars: +20.9%
Air fare: +32.7%
Public transportation: +22.2%
Real average weekly earnings: -3.9%
Gasoline is the main driver there...

Trump cut Oil supply... Thanks for pointing that out...


Just say it... Trump went to OPEC and got them to cut the supply... Don't worry Oil Companies have been having record profits..

Trump was in the bag for Big Oil... MAGA, fuck the little guy...
 
Gasoline is the main driver there...

Trump cut Oil supply... Thanks for pointing that out...


Just say it... Trump went to OPEC and got them to cut the supply... Don't worry Oil Companies have been having record profits..

Trump was in the bag for Big Oil... MAGA, fuck the little guy...

No one outside your tiny cult believes that.
 
No one outside your tiny cult believes that.
I have shown evidence and you got fucking nothing...

Well done... Keep believing bullshit without evidence...

Trump got Oil cut globally...

Oil is a global commodity... There is no such thing as US Oil or a US Oil price..

Gasoline prices rose... Oil companies made huge amount of money...

And now they have you out here shilling for Big Oil..
 
I have shown evidence and you got fucking nothing...

Well done... Keep believing bullshit without evidence...

Trump got Oil cut globally...

Oil is a global commodity... There is no such thing as US Oil or a US Oil price..

Gasoline prices rose... Oil companies made huge amount of money...

And now they have you out here shilling for Big Oil..

No one outside your tiny cult believes that.
 
I am in the bag for Big Oil

Because I dont want to ride a bicycle everywhere I go and pay $20 for one tomato
Yep...

You Orange God got Oil prices increased... Wasn't Biden...

You were sold one big lie... It doesn't really matter how much Oil US produces, OPEC is controlling the supply globally...

US Oil companies can ship US Oil any major port on the planet for <1c a gallon...


Get it.... Trump did this... What you are complaining about, why can't Biden fix Trump's mess quick enough...
Big Problem, Trump did this and then threw away all the bargaining chips..
 
Sigh..that's not what trickle down economics was. The idea was that significant tax cuts for the highest earners and corporations would spur growth and hiring. Therefore, the effect would "trickle down" in the form of higher wages, lower prices, and lower unemployment if the top brackets got their breaks.

Whelp, that didn't happen.
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Explain to me what happened to the $1 Trillion repatriated from offshore corporate accounts that according to the "EXPERTS" generate nearly over half a Trillion in tax revenue (see below)..
What did happen then with the $1 trillion that generates the tax revenue? Did the companies pay dividends?
You know of course dividends are taxed??? Or did this build new plants, hire more people... donate money? What happened to the nearly $1 trillion repatriated from off shore foreign bank accounts after the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act?
Oh note that Payroll Taxes increase... but of course I'm 100% confident you are too ill-informed to know that employee pays 7.65% and the employer covering 7.65%.

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The president said Wednesday that trickle-down economics “failed” Americans and that “this is the moment” the U.S. will move away from that economic theory.
Under the trickle-down economic theory was that public investment would discourage private investment. Give me a break,” he said.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4071807-biden-bashes-trickle-down-economics/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CHere's%20the%20simple%20truth%20about,Bidenomics%20is%20about%20the%20future.

Not counting inflation, the annual growth in average hourly earnings has dropped to 4.1 percent in March 2024, down from 5.9 percent during the coronavirus turmoil on March 22, according to the Wall Street Journal.

But after counting inflation, wages in President Joe Biden’s migration-inflated economy have remained flat or dropped — especially for the many young Americans who are facing rising rents.
Indeed, many polls that show the majority of Americans reject Biden’s high-migration, low-wage “Bidenomics” economy.
Migration also spurs inflation, chiefly by driving up housing prices amid Biden’s welcome for more than 7 million southern migrants and at least 2 million legal migrants. “Inflation is down but not gone,” Georgieva said at the meeting.

Many business leaders, government agencies, and academics admit that wages are reduced by migration. They include independent academics, the National Academies of Science, the Congressional Budget Office, executives, more academics, New York Times reporters, state officials, unions, more business executives, lobbyists, employees, the Wall Street Journal, federal economists, Goldman Sachs, Goldman Sachs again, oil drillers, Wall Street analysts, fired professionals, legislators, construction workers, New York Times subscribers, Robert Rubin, and even by the Bank of Ireland.
Your understanding of "trickle-down" is limited and wholly unrelated to your OP.
 

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