Why Social Security Needs a Good Audit and Housecleaning

[WorldWatcher]

You think that happens instantly? Right now you’re in the beginning of the process…

So, it’s acceptable to you to identify the problem but the agency being called out says “we’re not going to fix it”?

That should be unacceptable to all tax paying Americans…

Nope not acceptable.

The Trump Administration should have requested the funds from Congress to fix the problem in 2015 when his administration received their IG report.

The Biden Administration should have requested the funds from Congress to fix the problem in 2023 when his administration received their IG report.

The SSA running on a 60 year old, out dated computer system isn't news to anyone that's been following along beyond bump sticker rhetoric.

WW

 

[j-mac]

It IS political.

It’s Elmo politically attacking virtually every agency of government.

In most cases a tweek here and a tweek there would make huge differences.

Does he propose those? No. He goes public to undermine confidence in all of them.

That’s political… ideological.

And he has no mandate to do any of that.

That’s a lie…He’s already said that tracking info for these departments needs to be done…

Is your news not reporting this?

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/08/elon-musk-doge-government-payments-014920

 

[j-mac]

Nope not acceptable.

The Trump Administration should have requested the funds from Congress to fix the problem in 2015 when his administration received their IG report.

The Biden Administration should have requested the funds from Congress to fix the problem in 2023 when his administration received their IG report.

The SSA running on a 60 year old, out dated computer system isn't news to anyone that's been following along beyond bump sticker rhetoric.

WW

Patience

 

[NetJedi]

It IS political.

It’s Elmo politically attacking virtually every agency of government.

LOL, conflating auditing federal expenditures with "politically attacking" ... A+ for creativity.

How dare Elon Musk ask to see where federal agencies are spending taxpayer money! These microaggressions against the federal bureaucracies will not stand!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Head of Social Security has quit over DOGE accessing US taxpayer data.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/18/top-social-security-official-steps-down-after-disagreement-with-doge-over-sensitive-data.html

Good! Less dead wood.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Nope not acceptable.

The Trump Administration should have requested the funds from Congress to fix the problem in 2015 when his administration received their IG report.

The Biden Administration should have requested the funds from Congress to fix the problem in 2023 when his administration received their IG report.

The SSA running on a 60 year old, out dated computer system isn't news to anyone that's been following along beyond bump sticker rhetoric.

WW

Just FYI, I saw a report on Fox News this morning that said that SS cuts off your check once you turn 115 years-old.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

This isn’t political you dummy…We’re all getting ripped off.

No problem with an audit.

Let's stay in reality.

No one 150 years old is getting SS.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Just FYI, I saw a report on Fox News this morning that said that SS cuts off your check once you turn 115 years-old.

No, Social Security benefits do not stop at age 115. As long as you are alive, you will continue to receive your Social Security checks1. There is no age limit for receiving Social Security retirement benefits.

 

[Lesh]

So Elmo’s dweebs can find this “information” but can’t tell us how many of those people actually draw Bennie’s and how much?

Makes ya wonder

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

We needs, people.

 

[TimFitz]

That is an informative post by Elon on X. Dose DOGE have a regular @gov address for his Official informational posts, such as that, or is signing up to his X personally own website mandatory to know what his is doing for or to the public?

What does it tell you. It has no clear source, other than the fact that Musk posted it on social media.

Is there any real documentation?

Did Musk ask for an explanation of this discrepancy? If so, what is it?

Where are the Congressional committees that are supposed to investigate these things?

Did they learn about this claim the same way you did, in a tweet? If so, why is Congress being sidelined.?

Or is this more of what Musk has been firehosing out for a month. Ass drama, no documentation, and no real substance.

Goebells would have been delighted. He had radio and the Volkischer Baerbacter to keep his disciples instructed. Fox has been doing to press role for some time.

Now he can make up any bs he pleases and millions of bobble heads bobbing their heads in blissfully ignorant unison.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Just FYI, I saw a report on Fox News this morning that said that SS cuts off your check once you turn 115 years-old.

Ya, I seem to remember that in the IG report it talked about people being added to the "Do Not Pay" list at the Treasury (those that make the payments) based on updates to the DMF (Death Master File).

WW

 

[TimFitz]

So Elmo’s dweebs can find this “information” but can’t tell us how many of those people actually draw Bennie’s and how much?

Makes ya wonder

They never ask the obvious question.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Ya, I seem to remember that in the IG report it talked about people being added to the "Do Not Pay" list at the Treasury (those that make the payments) based on updates to the DMF (Death Mast

Ya, I seem to remember that in the IG report it talked about people being added to the "Do Not Pay" list at the Treasury (those that make the payments) based on updates to the DMF (Death Master File).

WW

No, Social Security does not cut off payments at age 115. In fact, there is no upper age limit for receiving Social Security benefits1. As long as you are alive, you will continue to receive your Social Security payments

 

[TimFitz]

Please show in FULL CONTEXT what unwarranted assumption I and/or Elon Musk is making.

Do you think that if the Social Security Administration doesn't know whether the people it sends checks to are living or dead that we shouldn't care?

News flash. An audit is to determine what is going on and what needs fixing. Musk is one of the best at recognizing when that is the case.

What objection do you have for that?

Here are a few obvious objections:

What is this list? Where did it come from? What parameters were used to generate it?

Did Musk ask for any explanation?

Was the inspector general informed? (Thatis, if the inspector general who had the SSA in its preview get fired by Trump (accountability is not a Trump thing).

Were the appropriate oversight committees informed? Or was Congress sidelined by an unelected official?

Musk has never done an audit. He does not have any accountants on his staff. He is incapable of doing one.

You are being conned by a man making up tropes.

 

[TimFitz]

I didn't say or even suggest they were all Social Security recipients. I am saying however that the Social Security Administration doesn't know whether those people are living or dead. Or how much fraud might be happening if they are dead and somebody is still receiving their social security checks. The whole system needs a good audit.

You have no real idea. But you fell for Musk’s troll meme hook, line, and sinker.

 

[NetJedi]

Here are a few obvious objections:

What is this list? Where did it come from? What parameters were used to generate it?

Did Musk ask for any explanation?

That's not his role, the role of DOGE is to conduct audits using modern data science tools and report findings to the executive, why is this so difficult for you folks to understand? Musk is not in a DECISION-MAKING role, he has no authority to actually implement any changes, ALL decisions are made by the Executive.

Was the inspector general informed? (Thatis, if the inspector general who had the SSA in its preview get fired by Trump (accountability is not a Trump thing).

Were the appropriate oversight committees informed? Or was Congress sidelined by an unelected official?

EVERYONE was informed regarding what he found, apart from Musk's posting on X, DOGE now has a .gov website where the findings are published.

Musk has never done an audit. He does not have any accountants on his staff. He is incapable of doing one.

You are being conned by a man making up tropes.

LOL, Are you serious? Welcome to the age of data science where these sorts of audits are conducted thousands (millions?) of times every day all over the globe without requiring a single accountant to conduct them. In fact, the age where accountants will need to conduct financial audits at all is rapidly coming to a close, computer-based models can do them faster and more accurately than any human can, all you might need an accountant for is to advise what to do based on the findings of the audit.

 

[Lesh]

That's not his role, the role of DOGE is to conduct audits using modern data science tools and report findings to the executive, why is this so difficult for you folks to understand? Musk is not in a DECISION-MAKING role, he has no authority to actually implement any changes, ALL decisions are made by the Executive.

EVERYONE was informed regarding what he found, apart from Musk's posting on X, DOGE now has a .gov website where the findings are published.

LOL, Are you serious? Welcome to the age of data science where these sorts of audits are conducted thousands (millions?) of times every day all over the globe without requiring a single accountant to conduct them. In fact, the age where accountants will need to conduct financial audits at all is rapidly coming to a close, computer-based models can do them faster and more accurately than any human can, all you might need an accountant for is to advise what to do based on the findings of the audit.

Report finding to the Executive….

That’s not what’s happening

Elmo makes invidious on his Twatter mess instead

 

[NetJedi]

Report finding to the Executive….

That’s not what’s happening

Maybe not in the alternate plane of existence that you inhabit, but that is what is happening here in the one the rest of humanity inhabits.

Elmo makes invidious on his Twatter mess instead

Sorry my gibberish to English translator is in the shop thus I have no idea what you are attempting to convey.

 

[Foxfyre]

He is also a motivated liar.

State the 'lie' in full context via video or credible source. Or admit you are just trolling.