Why Social Security Needs a Good Audit and Housecleaning

[Foxfyre]

Elon musk posted a chart showing the number of living social security recipients for each age group in America. This is why a good housecleaning at Social Security will be a very good thing. Reminder Social Security started in 1935--89 years ago. So the oldest recipient had she lived would be around 154 years old or so now.

 

[White 6]

Elon musk posted a chart showing the number of living social security recipients for each age group in America. This is why a good housecleaning at Social Security will be a very good thing.

That is an informative post by Elon on X. Dose DOGE have a regular @gov address for his Official informational posts, such as that, or is signing up to his X personally own website mandatory to know what his is doing for or to the public?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

OK.

 

[Foxfyre]

That is an informative post by Elon on X. Dose DOGE have a regular @gov address for his Official informational posts, such as that, or is signing up to his X personally own website mandatory to know what his is doing for or to the public?

DOGE office I believe is in the Eisenhower Office Bldg fairly near the White House, about 10 minutes from the Capitol Bldg if I am remembering right.

They have their own website and will be posting information on a fairly regular basis as I understand the intentions:

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

doge.gov

(Click on the various pages listed on the top right to see information already available there.)

 

[White 6]

DOGE office I believe is in the Eisenhower Office Bldg fairly near the White House, about 10 minutes from the Capitol Bldg if I am remembering right.

They have their own website and will be posting information on a fairly regular basis as I understand the intentions:

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

doge.gov

(Click on the various pages listed on the top right to see information already available there.)

I clicked the link. It does exist, but apparently not used by Elon. Go Figure

 

[Foxfyre]

I clicked the link. It does exist, but apparently not used by Elon. Go Figure

Just follow Elon on X. He is very transparent and prolific in what he is thinking and doing.

 

[Marener]

Elon musk posted a chart showing the number of living social security recipients for each age group in America.

Notice he doesn’t actually say they’re receiving benefits.

 

[TimFitz]

Elon musk posted a chart showing the number of living social security recipients for each age group in America. This is why a good housecleaning at Social Security will be a very good thing. Reminder Social Security started in 1935--89 years ago. So the oldest recipient had she lived would be around 154 years old or so now.

“This is why a good housecleaning at Social Security will be a very good thing.”

What does a distribution of age ranges say about a “good house leaning”???????????

I’m fact, it tells you nothing.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

“This is why a good housecleaning at Social Security will be a very good thing.”

What does a distribution of age ranges say about a “good house leaning”???????????

I’m fact, it tells you nothing.

A leaning house will tell you much you want to know.

 

[Foxfyre]

Notice he doesn’t actually say they’re receiving benefits.

Nor does it say that they are not. It is really easy for a widow or widower or sibling or offspring to just not tell Social Security that a person died. Some could be collecting Social Security for decades if nobody is really looking at that. An audit of the whole system is appropriate.

 

[Foxfyre]

“This is why a good housecleaning at Social Security will be a very good thing.”

What does a distribution of age ranges say about a “good house leaning”???????????

I’m fact, it tells you nothing.

It tells us that maybe there isn't massive fraud, but the Social Security system has no way to know whether there is or isn't.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Elon musk posted a chart showing the number of living social security recipients for each age group in America.

Foxfyre

Just so you know, the above statement is false, the chart referenced in your OP was the number of people in the SS database where the death flag was not set to TRUE, that does NOT mean those people are recipients of SS benefits.

I'm a database geek.

Death Flag Set False =/= Receiving Benefits.

Hope this helps.

WW

 

[NetJedi]

Foxfyre

Just so you know, the above statement is false, the chart referenced in your OP was the number of people in the SS database where the death flag was not set to TRUE, that does NOT mean those people are recipients of SS benefits.

I'm a database geek.

Death Flag Set False =/= Receiving Benefits.

Hope this helps.

WW

Whether those people are currently receiving benefits or not is not the point.

The fact that you have people on the SS rolls that are not possibly still alive and that are not flagged as dead means that :

1.) The SS doesn't know which people on its rolls are dead and which are alive (across ALL age groups); This calls into question the veracity of ALL data currently being used by the SS Administration. Can you imagine a private annuity not knowing which of its customers are dead and which are still alive? Yeah, me neither.

2.) Any SSN of a dead person can be used to collect benefits by fraudsters; we just had congressional testimony detailing how bad the Federal Government identity verification systems are which means these are easy targets for criminals.

3.) The possibility that the SSN's of dead people are being used RIGHT NOW to fraudulently collect benefits is very high.

4.) Future SS liabilities are calculated based on these rolls and policy decisions are made based off of those calculations, this information calls into question whether we actually know what the current fiscal condition of the SS System or not.

This discovery is a VERY big deal.

 

[kyzr]

That looks like too many people getting SS money before the age of 62 in the OP.

 

[initforme]

Nobody at the age of 62 is touchable.

 

[Marener]

Nor does it say that they are not. It is really easy for a widow or widower or sibling or offspring to just not tell Social Security that a person died. Some could be collecting Social Security for decades if nobody is really looking at that. An audit of the whole system is appropriate.

So you just made an unwarranted assumption.

Musk does this frequently.

It’s irresponsible to post this stuff before knowing what is going on. Disinformation is bad for the country. Not that any of you care when the disinformation benefits you politically.

 

[Foxfyre]

Foxfyre

Just so you know, the above statement is false, the chart referenced in your OP was the number of people in the SS database where the death flag was not set to TRUE, that does NOT mean those people are recipients of SS benefits.

I'm a database geek.

Death Flag Set False =/= Receiving Benefits.

Hope this helps.

WW

I didn't say or even suggest they were all Social Security recipients. I am saying however that the Social Security Administration doesn't know whether those people are living or dead. Or how much fraud might be happening if they are dead and somebody is still receiving their social security checks. The whole system needs a good audit.

 

[Foxfyre]

So you just made an unwarranted assumption.

Musk does this frequently.

It’s irresponsible to post this stuff before knowing what is going on. Disinformation is bad for the country. Not that any of you care when the disinformation benefits you politically.

Please show in FULL CONTEXT what unwarranted assumption I and/or Elon Musk is making.

Do you think that if the Social Security Administration doesn't know whether the people it sends checks to are living or dead that we shouldn't care?

News flash. An audit is to determine what is going on and what needs fixing. Musk is one of the best at recognizing when that is the case.

What objection do you have for that?

 

[WorldWatcher]

That looks like too many people getting SS money before the age of 62 in the OP.

That's because the OP tweet isn't showing the number of people that are getting benefits.

It's showing the number of people in those age groups where the Death Flag is not set to TRUE.

WW

 

[debbiedowner]

Nor does it say that they are not. It is really easy for a widow or widower or sibling or offspring to just not tell Social Security that a person died. Some could be collecting Social Security for decades if nobody is really looking at that. An audit of the whole system is appropriate.

If you are already receiving SS checks then the funeral home or cremation service notifies SS. That is what has happen with the past 5 people that died in my family and several of my clients.