Zone1 Why Most People End up in Hell (Jesus himself said this)

[Woodznutz]

Catholics and othersane people do not base their entire "thing" with God (Jesus) on Scirpture alone.

What is sinful about masturbation, according to the RCC?

 

[notmyfault2020]

What is sinful about masturbation, according to the RCC?

Why don't you ask the Catholic Church directly?

afraid to take a RCIA class?

afraid they may convince you that maybe the RCC is the Church Christ founded and you don't want to give up the life you have now which does not comport w/ that new knowledge?

 

[Woodznutz]

Why don't you ask the Catholic Church directly?

afraid to take a RCIA class?

afraid they may convince you that maybe the RCC is the Church Christ founded and you don't want to give up the life you have now which does not comport w/ that new knowledge?

You seem to be representing the RCC here. Why don't you answer?

 

[notmyfault2020]

You seem to be representing the RCC here. Why don't you answer?

Well, I myself did not make up the "rule" so there's that.

Sex is something that today is obviously practiced ubiquitously regardless of.. well, regardless of just about any rules.. when God made it for marriage alone.

In other words, another person you are committed to (married to) should be with you when your sexuality is aroused, and it shouldn't be aroused by just any old sick thing like porn

Cue the accusations of being a prude, being afraid of sex, afraid of the opposite gender.. and also how I just follow the Church and never think 4 myself... blah blah blah

bored w/ that.. won't respond to it

 

[Woodznutz]

Well, I myself did not make up the "rule" so there's that.

Sex is something that today is obviously practiced ubiquitously regardless of.. well, regardless of just about any rules.. when God made it for marriage alone.

In other words, another person you are committed to (married to) should be with you when your sexuality is aroused, and it shouldn't be aroused by just any old sick thing like porn

Cue the accusations of being a prude, being afraid of sex, afraid of the opposite gender.. and also how I just follow the Church and never think 4 myself... blah blah blah

bored w/ that.. won't respond to it

Does the RCC believe that men who remain single should be castrated (and whatever they do to spinster women) so those sensations cannot lead them into sin?

 

[notmyfault2020]

Does the RCC believe that men who remain single should be castrated (and whatever they do to spinster women) so those sensations cannot lead them into sin?

I have been celibate a long time. I am still alive, obviously. And I do not "do myself" either

amazing, isn't it?

and u thought it couldn't be done! Projection?

 

[Woodznutz]

I have been celibate a long time. I am still alive, obviously. And I do not "do myself" either

amazing, isn't it?

and u thought it couldn't be done! Projection?

Of course it can be done, if one chooses. The question is, just how sinful is it if someone does 'choke the chicken'?

 

[Woodznutz]

Why don't you ask the Catholic Church directly?

afraid to take a RCIA class?

afraid they may convince you that maybe the RCC is the Church Christ founded and you don't want to give up the life you have now which does not comport w/ that new knowledge?

I did. It's just another RCC guilt trip.

Masturbation: Mortal Sin?

Dear Grace: What is the Catholic Church’s teaching on masturbation? Is it viewed as a mortal sin or as a venial sin? Could it prevent us from getting into heaven?

www.catholiceducation.org

 

[Ivan88]

Hell is death. The creator did not create a place of eternal life in torment. That would make Him a liar, because., He says, "The wages of sin is death, not eternal torture.

As for heaven, it is the presence of the Creator, YahwehShua.

Life on Earth for the Sons of Adam, Noah, Shem, Abraham, Isaac & Yacob is a proving ground to see if they have overcome their genetic tendency to define good as what they want, vs the Perfect Word, Logic & Intent of the King of kings.

 

[notmyfault2020]

Hell is death. The creator did not create a place of eternal life in torment. That would make Him a liar, because., He says, "The wages of sin is death, not eternal torture.

This is not in line with what Jesus said. He said that the wicked would go away to ETERNAL punishment... (eternal death/dying). Mt 25:31-46

So I guess you reject Jesus bc you don't want to believe something He said?

yeh... you and nearly everyone else

 

[Here and there]

OK, technically what Jesus said was that FEW find the Narrow way that leads to Heaven (Mt 7, Lk 13)

Lk 13:24 makes the point that most attempting to enter Heaven at death "will not be strong enough." My guess is they won't be strong enough to fight off Satan and all his accusations, etc..

My experiences would tell me this (that very few make it) even if Jesus (and canonized saints) did not say so because you look around at all the heinous evil going on (homosexual acts, divorce for no valid reason, murdering the unborn) and things getting worse by the day and .. What? People who do these vile things are going to be allowed into Heaven (?)-- where all is good and holy and pure and just?

Right----------

Why are you believers obsessed with homosexuality?
If your blaming dems for killing unborn you are wrong. Religious women have abortions every day.

 

[notmyfault2020]

I did. It's just another RCC guilt trip.

Masturbation: Mortal Sin?

Dear Grace: What is the Catholic Church’s teaching on masturbation? Is it viewed as a mortal sin or as a venial sin? Could it prevent us from getting into heaven?

www.catholiceducation.org

Guilt is apropos if /when one does wrong

 

[notmyfault2020]

Why are you believers obsessed with homosexuality?
If your blaming dems for killing unborn you are wrong. Religious women have abortions every day.

and that must make it right

 

[notmyfault2020]

Hell is death. The creator did not create a place of eternal life in torment. That would make Him a liar, because., He says, "The wages of sin is death, not eternal torture.

As for heaven, it is the presence of the Creator, YahwehShua.

Life on Earth for the Sons of Adam, Noah, Shem, Abraham, Isaac & Yacob is a proving ground to see if they have overcome their genetic tendency to define good as what they want, vs the Perfect Word, Logic & Intent of the King of kings.

people tell themselves all manner of lies so they can get away with their sins. But at death, there is no running away from Judgment

 

[Woodznutz]

Guilt is apropos if /when one does wrong

The authors of the article seem to know waaaaay more about masturbation that I ever did. Whyzat I wonder?

 

[notmyfault2020]

The authors of the article seem to know waaaaay more about masturbation that I ever did. Whyzat I wonder?

what article?

 

[Woodznutz]

what article?

The link.

Masturbation: Mortal Sin?

Dear Grace: What is the Catholic Church’s teaching on masturbation? Is it viewed as a mortal sin or as a venial sin? Could it prevent us from getting into heaven?

www.catholiceducation.org

 

[notmyfault2020]

The link.

Masturbation: Mortal Sin?

Dear Grace: What is the Catholic Church’s teaching on masturbation? Is it viewed as a mortal sin or as a venial sin? Could it prevent us from getting into heaven?

www.catholiceducation.org

haven't read it, don't have time until tomorrow

 

[Woodznutz]

haven't read it, don't have time until tomorrow

Let us know what you think. I was left shaking my head.

 

[Billo_Really]

OK, technically what Jesus said was that FEW find the Narrow way that leads to Heaven (Mt 7, Lk 13)

Lk 13:24 makes the point that most attempting to enter Heaven at death "will not be strong enough." My guess is they won't be strong enough to fight off Satan and all his accusations, etc..

My experiences would tell me this (that very few make it) even if Jesus (and canonized saints) did not say so because you look around at all the heinous evil going on (homosexual acts, divorce for no valid reason, murdering the unborn) and things getting worse by the day and .. What? People who do these vile things are going to be allowed into Heaven (?)-- where all is good and holy and pure and just?

Right----------

I'm pretty sure Jesus frowned upon people violating the 9th commandment.