Why low income whites usually vote for Trump

[westwall]

Karl Marx believed that revolutions, which will often be violent, are necessary to achieve beneficial changes. I agree with Edmund Burke in preferring peaceful, evolutionary changes.

Yet everything you support resorts to violence in the long run.

I don't care what they say, I care what they do, and Marxists have murdered more than 150,000,000 people.

It is the single greatest cause of human death and suffering after disease.

 

[Hector12]

And you dodged the point again. This is YOUR thread and YOUR topic I am addressing.

You just dodged your own topic.


The point is not to get you to agree with maga. That isn't going to happen.


YOUR hostility to the working class but personally in your insults and your opposition to their interests makes their political opposition to you, completely reasonable and understandable.


That you instead want to try to spin their behavior as stupid, based on YOUR perceptions and beliefs, is just you being a class bigot and close minded.

I regret the exodus of the white working class from the Democrat Party to the Republican Party. Nevertheless, I have a sympathetic understanding of why it happened.

When I ask a white working class Republican why he votes Republican he does not say that progressive taxation punishes success. He doe not tell me that labor unions force factory owners to relocate into low wage countries. He tells me about black crime. He has probably been a victim of black criminals, as I have been. He tells me what it was like attending a black majority public school. He tells me about losing jobs to affirmative action.

I tell him that those are legitimate reasons.

 

[sartre play]

Karl marks is LONG DEAD. And not many are reading or interested in his views.

 

[Hector12]

Yet everything you support resorts to violence in the long run.

I don't care what they say, I care what they do, and Marxists have murdered more than 150,000,000 people.

It is the single greatest cause of human death and suffering after disease.

Communist governments have not emerged from social democratic economies. They have resulted from revolts against right wing tyrannies.

 

[bendog]

Yet everything you support resorts to violence in the long run.

I don't care what they say, I care what they do, and Marxists have murdered more than 150,000,000 people.

It is the single greatest cause of human death and suffering after disease.

Papists got em beat.

 

[Correll]

I regret the exodus of the white working class from the Democrat Party to the Republican Party. Nevertheless, I have a sympathetic understanding of why it happened.

I can tell. By the way you keep insulting us and claiming that our reasons are dumb or based on hate. Very sympathetic.

When I ask a white working class Republican why he votes Republican he does not say that progressive taxation punishes success. He doe not tell me that labor unions force factory owners to relocate into low wage countries. He tells me about black crime. He has probably been a victim of black criminals, as I have been. He tells me what it was like attending a black majority public school. He tells me about losing jobs to affirmative action.

I tell him that those are legitimate reasons.

Do you really? Cause your talk of "hate" makes it sound like you think he is a racist.

People like you are teachers and principles in those black majority schools where they are biased to protect the black kids at the expense of the white kids.

 

[Hector12]

I can tell. By the way you keep insulting us and claiming that our reasons are dumb or based on hate. Very sympathetic.



Do you really? Cause your talk of "hate" makes it sound like you think he is a racist.

People like you are teachers and principles in those black majority schools where they are biased to protect the black kids at the expense of the white kids.

I have often been called a racist myself because I am a race realist. Race realism makes the three assertions:

First, race is an important biological classification of humans.

Second the three major races differ significantly in average intelligence as well as in rates of crime and illegitimacy.

Third, these differences are the result of evolving in response to different population pressures.

 

[Donald H]

It was the working class Americans greatest need.

Then Trump started on the border wall and that made them racists who could buy into the lies that cuhlud people took away their jobs.

So the jobs are postponed for a few years until the cuhlud problem is solved.

 

[sartre play]

Karl Marks writings, most all from the 1840s.
And ALL just his opinions/views.
Bad stuff happens when we follow
instead of think/learn about things for our self's.

 

[Donald H]

People like you are teachers and principles in those black majority schools where they are biased to protect the black kids at the expense of the white kids.

Racism.

 

[westwall]

Papists got em beat.

Not even close, sport. The death toll for ALL religious wars, of ALL denominations, is under 10,000,000

 

[Nostra]

The last time Donald Trump was president, he travelled to Youngstown, Ohio, among the most depressed of America’s rust belt cities, and promised voters the impossible.

The high-paying steel, railroad and car industry jobs that once made Youngstown a hard-living, hard-drinking blue-collar boom town were coming back, he said. “Don’t move. Don’t sell your house,” he crowed to a rapturous crowd in 2017. “We’re going to fill up those factories – or rip ”em down and build brand new ones”.

None of that happened. Indeed, within 18 months, General Motors (GM) announced that it was suspending operations at its one remaining manufacturing plant outside Youngstown, throwing 5,000 jobs into jeopardy in a community with little else to cling to. Trump’s reaction was to say the closure didn’t matter, because the jobs would be replaced “in, like, two minutes”.

That, too, did not happen. People moved away, marriages broke down, depression soared and, locals say, a handful of people took their own lives.

Ordinarily, politicians who promise the moon and fail to deliver get punished at the ballot box. But that did not happen to Trump either. Instead, he has steadily built up his popularity in Youngstown, a city that was once a well-oiled Democratic party machine but has now turned into one of his most remarkable bases of working-class support.

“Does [Trump] understand at all what you’re going through?” Joe Biden asked Ohio voters during the 2020 presidential campaign, referring directly to the GM closure. “Does he see you where you are and where you want to be? Does he care?”

To which the answer, in Youngstown, has been an astonishing and vigorous “yes”.

‘There are a lot of bitter people here, I’m one of them’: rust belt voters on why they backed Trump again despite his broken promises | Donald Trump | The Guardian

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Arthur Jensen gave this interview to Jared Taylor in 1992. It is still as timely and relevant as the day it was recorded.

people have been taught from early childhood — and it’s especially true of better-educated people — that all people are essentially the same, except for very superficial differences due to their social background and advantages in upbringing and so forth…

Once you get below IQs of 80 or 75, which is the cut-off for mental retardation in the California School System, children are put into special classes. These persons are not really educable up to a level for which there’s any economic demand.

A Conversation with Arthur Jensen - American Renaissance

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Professor Jensen is mainly known for his writing about racial differences in average intelligence. What he has to say about IQs below 80 or 75 is equally true of the poorly educated whites Trump pretends to love, and who do love him.

As long as there were strong unions for factory workers, and plenty of factory jobs, white men with low IQs who could tolerate boredom for eight hours a day could earn reasonably good incomes. This is not true any more, as the following graph illustrates.

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Trump tells unemployed factory workers lies to give them hope of getting factory jobs. When they do not get factory jobs, he gives them people to hate.

What is the Dimtard plan for mfg jobs? Be specific and bring links.

BTW, ORANGE MAN BAD isn’t a plan.

 

[Correll]

I have often been called a racist myself because I am a race realist. Race realism makes the three assertions:

First, race is an important biological classification of humans.

Second the three major races differ significantly in average intelligence as well as in rates of crime and illegitimacy.

Third, these differences are the result of evolving in response to different population pressures.

Do you support Trump's moves to destroy DEI?

 

[Correll]

Racism.

Nope. Reality. Education is dominated by lefties, and they are anti-white and pro-black.

 

[Donald H]

Nope. Reality. Education is dominated by lefties, and they are anti-white and pro-black.

Racist.

 

[AveMarica]

And for all the jobs that can't be exported to the cheap labor... The Democrats have allowed the importation of illegal alien cheap labor from Mexico and South America.

The Democrats?

Go Team! Don't be naive, the illegal immigrant population has remained relatively constant for almost 20 years, +- 11 million. The biggest rise in the 21st century was during the Bush administration and the only significant drops during that time coincided with The Great Recession and the Covid Pandemic.

 

[Edgetho]

Yet everything you support resorts to violence in the long run.

I don't care what they say, I care what they do, and Marxists have murdered more than 150,000,000 people.

It is the single greatest cause of human death and suffering after disease.

Didn't somebody say something once about the definition of insanity?

But dimocrap scum keep trying. I wonder how many more times socialism will fail. The DISGUSTING FILTH ignores it but Venezuela is the only Country in History to voluntarily, under no duress, vote a socialist system into power.

Look at them now. At one time the richest Country on their Continent and less than a year after socialist scum took over, one of the poorest countries in the world. And one of the most violent.

But socialist scum (in this country, dimocraps) still believe. They are convinced that, like Dorothy, all they have to do is BELIEVE hard enough and it will come true.

Just what we need, a 12 year-old girl running a country. ANybody else surprised at well Venezuela is doing?

 

[80zephyr]

It was the working class Americans greatest need.

Then Trump started on the border wall and that made them racists who could buy into the lies that cuhlud people took away their jobs.

So the jobs are postponed for a few years until the cuhlud problem is solved.

Didn't they take the jobs? The good ones? Construction was a very good paying job, until the illegals took over. Thats not a lie.

 

[Correll]

Didn't they take the jobs? The good ones? Construction was a very good paying job, until the illegals took over. Thats not a lie.

Of course they did. They took jobs and the jobs they didn't directly take, they put downward pressure on those wages.


EVERYONE knows this. Some people want to shit talk to hide the fact so that they can dismiss people with real issues as just "hate" or "racism".

 

[Donald H]

Didn't they take the jobs? The good ones? Construction was a very good paying job, until the illegals took over. Thats not a lie.

You're useful because you understood Trump's directions on how to react to his border wall.

You took the bait!