Why low income whites usually vote for Trump

[80zephyr]

The Democrats?

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Go Team! Don't be naive, the illegal immigrant population has remained relatively constant for almost 20 years, +- 11 million. The biggest rise in the 21st century was during the Bush administration and the only significant drops during that time coincided with The Great Recession and the Covid Pandemic.

So the millions coming across the border doesn't affect how many are in the country? Who knew?

 

[IM2]

That’s been the case since Democrats took possession of academia by way of indoctrination. What’s weird is that less educated people always tend to out-earn the indoctrinated?
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The indoctrination is what we got. And that's what you want to return us to.

 

[IM2]

So the millions coming across the border doesn't affect how many are in the country? Who knew?

Maybe there were fewer crossings than the race hustling right-wing media told you.

 

[80zephyr]

Maybe there were fewer crossings than the race hustling right-wing media told you.

The border patrol kept count. Are they racist too?

 

[d0gbreath]

You’re welcome to provide some more recent data?

Too boring. I have wet paint in the other room.

 

[westwall]

Very few factory jobs are coming back. Efforts to bring them back will promote inflation.

Are you lying, or ignorant?

 

[Hector12]

Are you lying, or ignorant?

Neither, obviously. Anything a factory worker can do a factory robot can do better, faster, and less expensively.

 

[bdtex]

Trump tells unemployed factory workers lies to give them hope of getting factory jobs. When they do not get factory jobs, he gives them people to hate.

His base is low information and they don't even know it.

 

[Correll]

Middle class people do not need factory jobs. They work with their minds, not their hands.

Some do, some don't. Your easy dismissial of those that work with their hands, is the point.


MAGA had a choice between trump who is willing to fight for them, and people like you that want promise to NOT fight for them, who's plan is to just deal with losing.

 

[Correll]

Neither, obviously. Anything a factory worker can do a factory robot can do better, faster, and less expensively.

And again, your plan is to just give up on all those jobs and people.

 

[Correll]

His base is low information and they don't even know it.

You have nothing but contempt for us, and yet feel entitled to our political support.


Your arrogance and stupidity is beyond normal human understanding.

 

[Hector12]

And again, your plan is to just give up on all those jobs and people.

Yu could put it that way. I see no future for them. Computer technology increases the relationship between intelligence and income.

 

[Orangecat]

The last time Donald Trump was president, he travelled to Youngstown, Ohio, among the most depressed of America’s rust belt cities, and promised voters the impossible.

The high-paying steel, railroad and car industry jobs that once made Youngstown a hard-living, hard-drinking blue-collar boom town were coming back, he said. “Don’t move. Don’t sell your house,” he crowed to a rapturous crowd in 2017. “We’re going to fill up those factories – or rip ”em down and build brand new ones”.

None of that happened. Indeed, within 18 months, General Motors (GM) announced that it was suspending operations at its one remaining manufacturing plant outside Youngstown, throwing 5,000 jobs into jeopardy in a community with little else to cling to. Trump’s reaction was to say the closure didn’t matter, because the jobs would be replaced “in, like, two minutes”.

That, too, did not happen. People moved away, marriages broke down, depression soared and, locals say, a handful of people took their own lives.

Ordinarily, politicians who promise the moon and fail to deliver get punished at the ballot box. But that did not happen to Trump either. Instead, he has steadily built up his popularity in Youngstown, a city that was once a well-oiled Democratic party machine but has now turned into one of his most remarkable bases of working-class support.

“Does [Trump] understand at all what you’re going through?” Joe Biden asked Ohio voters during the 2020 presidential campaign, referring directly to the GM closure. “Does he see you where you are and where you want to be? Does he care?”

To which the answer, in Youngstown, has been an astonishing and vigorous “yes”.

‘There are a lot of bitter people here, I’m one of them’: rust belt voters on why they backed Trump again despite his broken promises | Donald Trump | The Guardian

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Arthur Jensen gave this interview to Jared Taylor in 1992. It is still as timely and relevant as the day it was recorded.

people have been taught from early childhood — and it’s especially true of better-educated people — that all people are essentially the same, except for very superficial differences due to their social background and advantages in upbringing and so forth…

Once you get below IQs of 80 or 75, which is the cut-off for mental retardation in the California School System, children are put into special classes. These persons are not really educable up to a level for which there’s any economic demand.

A Conversation with Arthur Jensen - American Renaissance

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Professor Jensen is mainly known for his writing about racial differences in average intelligence. What he has to say about IQs below 80 or 75 is equally true of the poorly educated whites Trump pretends to love, and who do love him.

As long as there were strong unions for factory workers, and plenty of factory jobs, white men with low IQs who could tolerate boredom for eight hours a day could earn reasonably good incomes. This is not true any more, as the following graph illustrates.

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Trump tells unemployed factory workers lies to give them hope of getting factory jobs. When they do not get factory jobs, he gives them people to hate.

Wall of butthurt: unread.

 

[Hector12]

Some do, some don't. Your easy dismissial of those that work with their hands, is the point.


MAGA had a choice between trump who is willing to fight for them, and people like you that want promise to NOT fight for them, who's plan is to just deal with losing.

Trump is not fighting for people with IQs below 80. He is fighting for himself, his family, his rich friends, and the rich in general. I am choosing 80 because people below that are ineligible for the military. Trump's advantage is that people with IQs below 80 are gullible enough to think Trump cares about them.

 

[Hector12]

His base is low information and they don't even know it.

 

[Correll]

Yu could put it that way. I see no future for them. ...

And we know that. THus we choose to side with the man that is at least willing to try.


That this doesn't make sense to you, is just you being willfully blind, to justify your insane sense of entitlement.

 

[Correll]

Trump is not fighting for people with IQs below 80. He is fighting for himself, his family, his rich friends, and the rich in general. I am choosing 80 because people below that are ineligible for the military. Trump's advantage is that people with IQs below 80 are gullible enough to think Trump cares about them.

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You choose 80 to be insulting, becuase you are trying to derail your own thread and to run away from your own topic.


Trump is fighting for us, for the American working class and middle class, while you are fighting for the policies that serve the interests of the current elite.


YOu have admitted that you are opposed to policy to serve our interests.

 

[Correll]

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Mark Twain was a pessimistic old man. Today is MAGA's turn. We won and it is our turn to craft policy to see if our ideas work.

 

[Hector12]

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Correll, you seem to be one of those fools determined to believe a lie.

 

[Hector12]

You choose 80 to be insulting, becuase you are trying to derail your own thread and to run away from your own topic.


Trump is fighting for us, for the American working class and middle class, while you are fighting for the policies that serve the interests of the current elite.


YOu have admitted that you are opposed to policy to serve our interests.

The cognitive elite, described by Charles Murray, do not need me to serve their interests.