Zone1 Why is it so tough to believe in God?

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Exactly.

It started with Zoroastrianism in Persia the 6th century bce, (perhaps as long ago as 2000 bce), went through Babylon, Greece, then Rome as the secret "MYSTERY RELIGION" of the Roman government and military which became the basis for Roman Catholicism after 325ce when Rome assimilated and perverted Christianity and eliminated all other religions after Caesar conferred power and authority to the Papacy from which every of the over 30,000 denominations of Christianity come from who still worship the Antichrist, a false substitute Jesus that claimed to be equal to God but never existed, as the real teachings of the Jewish man, Jesus of Nazareth, were buried under a mountain of blasphemy obscenities and abominations upon which the Church sits like a dragon.
 
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Yes it does.

It's Jesus making it very clear that his God is their God which means he wasn't God and didn't claim to be God.

YOU are a ******* liar.

Consider yourself defrocked.

No it doesn't. See again post #(1294).

Quantrill
 
(Genesis 3:14) says nothing about Jesus not being God.
Thats right!

But it does explain your inability to grasp the fact that Jesus was just a man, albeit the messiah, because you've been cursed by my God as the lowest of all human life forms just like the serpent and for the same exact reason.

See?

You set aside the law of my God to be an idolator and teach other to do the same. You have your reward already!

Murderer.

Enjoy!
 
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Yes.

I have already shown you many times how those few verses can be interpreted in a way that does not make Jesus out to be insane. "The Father and I are one" means they are of one accord. "If you have seen me you have seen the Father" just means if you understand, perceive, Jesus you will understand, perceive, God. Simple. damn

If Jesus claimed equality with God or to be God, a scurrilous false charge made to discredit him, he was INSANE.

So every time one of you numbskulls goes around saying, "Jesus is God" KNOW that you are bringing his name into disrepute among intelligent people embarrassing yourself by cluelessly exposing your shame completely naked in public. You might as well be drooling and jerking off, religiously, shrieking foul obscenities with families and children playing all around trying to have a picnic in a public park on an otherwise beautiful Sunday afternoon


Feel free to share your ridiculous interpretations of John 5:17-23, John 10:30, John 14:9, John 8:58, Mark 2:5-12 and Matthew 14:33.
 
No.

You've been trying to peddle superstitious archaic lore perpetuated by Rome specifically to subjugate the nations, brazenly express pure hatred for the Hebrew God, my God, and openly desecrate the words of Jesus

* Mithra was born on December 25th. Called "Birthday of the Unconquered Sun", it was incorporated into the church in the 4th century AD as the birthday of Christ. Although Jesus was born in October, christians today celebrate Mithra' birthday, believing it was Jesus' birthday.

* Mithra' birth was witnessed by shepherds and by Magi (the root of the word magician) who brought gifts to his sacred birth-cave of the Rock

* He was considered a great travelling teacher and master.

* He had 12 companions or disciples, which in Mithraism were represented by the 12 astrological signs.

* He performed miracles.

* He was buried in a tomb.

* After three days he rose again, but with no witnesses to the event

* His triumph over death and ascension to heaven were celebrated at the Mithran's most important festival, Easter, held at the spring equinox when the sun rises toward its apogee

* Mithra was called "the Good Shepherd."

* He was considered "the Way, the Truth and the Light, the Redeemer, the Savior, the Messiah."

* In the cult's rituals, Mithra was identified with both the Lion and the Lamb.

* His sacred day was Sunday, and was called "the Lord's Day" hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.

* Mithraism had a Eucharist or "Lord's Supper" in which bread was eaten as a symbol of Mithra' body, and wine was drunk as a symbol of the blood shed when Mithra overpowered and killed the bull

* Mithra performed many miracles, including raising the dead, healing the sick, making the blind see and the lame walk, casting out devils.

* Mithra was said to carry keys to the kingdom of heaven.

* Mithra was called the god of light and truth, the god of mediation between god and man. He was to his worshippers The creator of life; The Mediator between man and the higher gods; The God of light; The All-seeing one; The Guardian of oaths (covenants); The Protector of the righteous in this world and also in the next.

* A trinity godhead comprised of Mithra (divine god of truth), Rashnu (divine god of justice, judgement and righteousness), Vohu Manah (divine spirit of enlightenment). These three persons were separate yet they were one.

Before returning to heaven, Mithra was said to have celebrated a Last Supper with followers, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac. In memory of this, his worshippers partook of a sacramental meal of bread marked with the Mithran cross of light. This was one of the seven Mithraic sacraments, believed to be the models for the Christians' seven sacraments, which follow them identically. It was called mizd, latin missa, English mass. Mithra' image was buried in a rock tomb, the same sacred cave that represented his mother's womb. He was withdrawn from it and said to live again.

Mithraism was an ascetic, anti-female religion. Its priesthood consisted of celibate men only.
So conspiracy theory?
 
Feel free to share your ridiculous interpretations of John 5:17-23, John 10:30, John 14:9, John 8:58, Mark 2:5-12 and Matthew 14:33.
One thing you have left out of your speculations is REALITY where anyone who claims to be God is insane. Thats what you have to face. Either Jesus was insane or the Roman church has fucked up your mind since childhood. Is that relally too hard for a believer to believe? As if 4th century Romans wouldn't have lied about Jesus. Damn.

 
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One thing you seem to have left out of your speculations is REALITY where anyone who claims to be God is insane. Thats what you have to face. Either Jesus was insane or the church has fucled up your mind since childhood. Is that relally too hard for a believer to believe? As if 4th century Romans wouldn't have lied about Jesus.

Damn.
Unless of course it were true. But again Jesus didn't claim to be God. He claimed to be equal to God. Which is something you won't accept so you make up ridiculous interpretations to avoid the obvious.

But feel free to share your ridiculous interpretations of John 5:17-23, John 10:30, John 14:9, John 8:58, Mark 2:5-12 and Matthew 14:33.
 
Unless of course it were true. But again Jesus didn't claim to be God. He claimed to be equal to God. Which is something you won't accept so you make up ridiculous interpretations to avoid the obvious.
It is impossible to be true. As I said either Jesus was insane or your church fucked up your mind real good. Jesus was not insane and I have proven it which leaves only one option. Your Roman church lies. Does this shock you?

There is only one God (not three) who is incorporeal with no visible shape or material form and there is no other God in existence either equal to above or below him. There never was and never will be a human being that was God or became God either before during or after their human existence. Thats exactly what Jesus believed.

Thats the way the cookie crumbles.
 
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It is impossible to be true. As I said either Jesus was insane or your church fucked up your mind real good. Jesus was not insane and I have proven it which leaves only one option. Your Roman church lies. Does this shock you?

There is only one God (not three) who is incorporeal with no visible shape or material form and there is no other God in existence either equal to above or below him. There never was and never will be a human being that was God or became God either before during or after their human existence. Thats exactly what Jesus believed.

Thats the way the cookie crumbles.
feel free to share your ridiculous interpretations of John 5:17-23, John 10:30, John 14:9, John 8:58, Mark 2:5-12 and Matthew 14:33.
 
Jesus said and behaved as if he were equal to God. Not that he is God.

all (in the heavens) are equal ... those are the crucifiers you are aligning yourself with, the itinerant knew better and only assimilated the possibility to come.
 
feel free to share your ridiculous interpretations of John 5:17-23, John 10:30, John 14:9, John 8:58, Mark 2:5-12 and Matthew 14:33.
Sure,

but first I'm going to fly up to hebbin for a sabbatical. I will return to answer your questions soon. All things being relative you might not live long enough to see that day but, oh well. You had your chance to rise from the dead.

I will be coming in the clouds with great power and glory. So pull up a lawn chair, sit, and look up every now and then when you wipe the sweat from your brow and then just keep digging your grave for the next thousand years.
 
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Thats right!

But it does explain your inability to grasp the fact that Jesus was just a man, albeit the messiah, because you've been cursed by my God as the lowest of all human life forms just like the serpent and for the same exact reason.

See?

You set aside the law of my God to be an idolator and teach other to do the same. You have your reward already!

Murderer.

Enjoy!

You just pulled (Gen. 3:14) out of your ass. And you are found to be a liar again.

Jesus was not 'just' a man. As Scripture declares.

What is the law of your god that I am an idolator of? What is the name of your so called god? Where are his writings?

Your god is a phony as you're a phony.

Quantrill
 
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“Worldlings shun solitude, and with good reason; for in solitude they feel more acutely the remorse of conscience, and therefore they go in search of the conversations and tumults of the world, that the noise of these occupations may stifle the stings of remorse.”




St. Alphonsus, 1755
 
Right. Jesus did what no other man could ever do except for the Messiah, a Jewish man sent by my God to "convey all of his commands".

Jesus was not 'just' a Man. He was/is the God/Man as Scripture declares.

Your god? What is your god's name? What is the law of your god? Where are the writings of your god? Is your god's writings the Word of God?

Quantrill
 
Unless of course it were true. But again Jesus didn't claim to be God. He claimed to be equal to God. Which is something you won't accept so you make up ridiculous interpretations to avoid the obvious.

But feel free to share your ridiculous interpretations of John 5:17-23, John 10:30, John 14:9, John 8:58, Mark 2:5-12 and Matthew 14:33.
Jesus is God, period.

"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and was [is] God, and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" (Gospel of St John, Chapter one)

Today, He dwells among is in the Real Presence in Catholic Churches :)

Mt 28:20, John 6:27-72

"If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father"

(uncertain where that last one is, but it is there in Scripture)
 
Right. Jesus did what no other man could ever do except for the Messiah, a Jewish man sent by my God to "convey all of his commands".

Jesus was not 'just' a Man. He was/is the God/Man as Scripture declares.

Your god? What is your god's name? What is the law of your god? Where are the writings of your god? Is your god's writings the Word of God?

Quantrill
 
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