Zone1 Why is it so tough to believe in God?

Where have I perjured myself in name of your god?
For starters your iniquitous worship of a trinity. The Antichrist. Your demented belief that my God screwed a virgin to become a perfect human sacrifice to pay the penalty for your own stupid sins (even though your every post is evidence of your demise) so cowardly faithless pussies like you can avoid in your unrestrained imagination the death, a curse, consequent for your idolatry, sorcery, deception, false accusations, slander, murders, and obscenities while openly and brazenly revealing a deep seated pure hatred for he who truly is God, my God.

If you want more evidence that you openly and brazenly perjure yourself in the name of my God daily, just ask.

I'm sure that my God is very impressed by your love for Jesus, throwing your godman under the bus like that.

I am.
 
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True. Unfortunately, early indoctrination combined with religious parenting make exercising critical thinking difficult. Luckily, my parents let us kids make up our minds. Far from the norm in my neighborhood.
Fortunately I was also raised by parents who taught me to smell bullshit from a mile away and speak my mind.

I'm sure there were moments when they regretted that. lol.
 
Yes, your fictional god character is putrid, and that trickles down.
Thats right. If what a persons believes about the highest form of life is that he is a cruel and capricious petty tyrant obsessed with diet fashion and the sexual preferences of consenting adults believers will try to reflect that.

Even though a fucked up 3 in 1 edible god like that does not correspond to any real living being ever in existence.

They create their own god in ignorance of literary devices and turn themselves into perversions of homo sapiens.

And that in many cases also applies to unbelievers as well who are so educated knowing that serpents can't talk so their brilliant conclusion is that its all magical bullshit which is as clueless as believing that its all literally true.

 
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For starters your iniquitous worship of a trinity. The Antichrist. Your demented belief that my God screwed a virgin to become a perfect human sacrifice to pay the penalty for your own stupid sins (even though your every post is evidence of your demise) so cowardly faithless pussies like you can avoid in your unrestrained imagination the death, a curse, consequent for your idolatry, sorcery, deception, false accusations, slander, murders, and obscenities while openly and brazenly revealing a deep seated pure hatred for he who truly is God, my God.

If you want more evidence that you openly and brazenly perjure yourself in the name of my God daily, just ask.

I'm sure that my God is very impressed by your love for Jesus, throwing your godman under the bus like that.

I am.

I asked, 'where' have I perjured myself'? Show me in the writings of your god where I have perjured myself.

I have just asked. I get nothing from you but bullshit. Perjury to you, is disagreeing with you. And, you ain't shit.

I need 'evidence' first, before more evidence can be expected.

I don't care about your god being impressed. Your god is you.

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Perjury to you, is disagreeing with you. And, you ain't shit.
Perjury to anyone is you claiming that my God, who is incorporeal with no physical shape or material form and has no equal either above or below him, in an absurd CONTRADICTION of what the Bible that you pretend to belief in teaches my God really is a coequal a trinity that diddled a Jewish virgin to become a perfect 100% human sacrificial mangod who paid the penalty, death, a curse, for your obscene sins so you can remain an asshole and sin with impunity for life. Thats perjury. A fact according to the definition. Not my belief or opinion.

You claimed to have read the bible and believe. Then believe that you are fucked. So enough with your pretense already, what literally lurks within you has already exposed itself willy nilly publicly when compelled to by me.

You actually said this out loud, and I quote; "I piss on your god. I shit on your god." Some believer you are. :auiqs.jpg:


"This, he told me, is the curse that is going out over the whole land; for by the writing on one side, every thief will be swept clean away, and by the writing on the other, every perjurer shall be swept clean away. I have sent it out, the Lord of Hosts has said, and it shall enter the house of the thief and the house of the man who has perjured himself in my name. It shall stay inside that house and demolish it timbers and stones and all." Zech 5:3,4

But I won't leave you bereft and without hope.

Rising from the dead is as easy or as difficult as it is for anyone to be honest with themselves and others. Simple.

You lack substance in the disciplines of honesty and humility required to rise to eternal life, so I doubt you can.

And, believe it or not, I will not shed a tear.
 
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For starters your iniquitous worship of a trinity. The Antichrist. Your demented belief that my God screwed a virgin to become a perfect human sacrifice to pay the penalty for your own stupid sins (even though your every post is evidence of your demise) so cowardly faithless pussies like you can avoid in your unrestrained imagination the death, a curse, consequent for your idolatry, sorcery, deception, false accusations, slander, murders, and obscenities while openly and brazenly revealing a deep seated pure hatred for he who truly is God, my God.

If you want more evidence that you openly and brazenly perjure yourself in the name of my God daily, just ask.

I'm sure that my God is very impressed by your love for Jesus, throwing your godman under the bus like that.

I am.
He waved his wand and magically made a virgin pregnant?
Hell I can do that.
 
Perjury to anyone is you claiming that my God, who is incorporeal with no physical shape or material form and has no equal either above or below him, in an absurd CONTRADICTION of what the Bible that you pretend to belief in teaches my God really is a coequal a trinity that diddled a Jewish virgin to become a perfect 100% human sacrificial mangod who paid the penalty, death, a curse, for your obscene sins so you can remain an asshole and sin with impunity for life. Thats perjury. A fact according to the definition. Not my belief or opinion.

You claimed to have read the bible and believe. Then believe that you are fucked. So enough with your pretense already, what literally lurks within you has already exposed itself willy nilly publicly when compelled to by me.

You actually said this out loud, and I quote; "I piss on your god. I shit on your god." Some believer you are. :auiqs.jpg:


"This, he told me, is the curse that is going out over the whole land; for by the writing on one side, every thief will be swept clean away, and by the writing on the other, every perjurer shall be swept clean away. I have sent it out, the Lord of Hosts has said, and it shall enter the house of the thief and the house of the man who has perjured himself in my name. It shall stay inside that house and demolish it timbers and stones and all." Zech 5:3,4

But I won't leave you bereft and without hope.

Rising from the dead is as easy or as difficult as it is for anyone to be honest with themselves and others. Simple.

You lack substance in the disciplines of honesty and humility required to rise to eternal life, so I doubt you can.

And, believe it or not, I will not shed a tear.

Please pay attention...I know it's hard. Perjury is lying in accordance to the law one is under. You have not presented any law of your god, because he doesn't know how to write. Thus I have not purgered your law of your god. You present Bible verses as though I have purgered them, but they are the law and revelation of my God, not yours. And I have not purgered them in the least.

Yes, I did say, I piss on your god. I shit on your god. And I stand by it. That is no reference to my God of the Bible. It is a reference to you and your god, which are one and the same. If you disagree, show me the writings of your god that I have purgered and his name...if he has one.

I am never without because of my God. Not because of your empty words.

Oh, you will shed a tear...but you're correct...not for me.

Quantrill
 
Please pay attention...I know it's hard. Perjury is lying in accordance to the law one is under. You have not presented any law of your god, because he doesn't know how to write. Thus I have not purgered your law of your god. You present Bible verses as though I have purgered them, but they are the law and revelation of my God, not yours. And I have not purgered them in the least.

Yes, I did say, I piss on your god. I shit on your god. And I stand by it. That is no reference to my God of the Bible. It is a reference to you and your god, which are one and the same. If you disagree, show me the writings of your god that I have purgered and his name...if he has one.

I am never without because of my God. Not because of your empty words.

Oh, you will shed a tear...but you're correct...not for me.

Quantrill
Provide proof that your God is real that those ho worship other gods cannot also provide.
 
Provide proof that your God is real that those ho worship other gods cannot also provide.

I am not requiring that those who worship other gods provide proof. Concerning hobelim I have asked the laws of his god. I have asked the name of his god. I have asked how did he learn of his god.

hobelim tries to use the Bible as the source for his god, but he doesn't believe the Bible. He uses the Bible. The God of the Bible is not his god but he tries and makes the appearance that He is.

So, your request is out of order.

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There are things about God that are difficult to understand, but as someone once said

It takes more faith to totally disbelieve in Him than to believe..
 
There are things about God that are difficult to understand, but as someone once said

It takes more faith to totally disbelieve in Him than to believe..
And that someone was smoking crack, because the default setting of not believing in any of the thousands of magical god characters we invented requires no effort or faith whatsoever.

Hell, we were all born that way, until someone poured these magical lies into our child brains.
 
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There are things about God that are difficult to understand, but as someone once said

It takes more faith to totally disbelieve in Him than to believe..

that's sad to consider, your he god of the desert bibles those bibles you can not live without than what they deliberately circumvent - the heavens.

true monotheism for everyone where all are equal - not just for illiterate and selfish people or a distinction for some reason they truly fear their own self determination. their ability to fail and perish.
 
Perjury is lying in accordance to the law one is under.
Exactly!

So if the very Jesus that you love so much you threw him under the bus (imagining that betrayal would save your funky ass) was right everyone is subject to the Law of my God , the Father of Jesus, just like all living creatures are subject to cause and effect whatever they profess to believe and will be for as long as there is life on earth.

Jesus taught that the words used in the Law of his God, my God, were figurative and the subjects hidden and not necessarily directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used. Thats why he said "eat my flesh" a reference to Kosher law, and, "its not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, its what comes out of the mouth." So the Law of my God, the Father of Jesus, is not and never was about what you eat or wear or a persons sexual preferences. What became obsolete after this revelation was the talmud, what Jesus called "the traditions of men."

Jesus (not your edible antichrist) said,

"I tell you this: So long as heaven and earth endure, not a letter, not a stroke, will disappear from the Law until all that has happened has happened (including the Parousia and the resurrection of the dead). If any man therefore sets aside even the least of these commands, and teaches others to do the same (which amounts to murder), he will have THE LOWEST PLACE in the kingdom of God." Matthew 5:18,19

To understand what Jesus, (not your fake mangod) meant by saying THE LOWEST PLACE, see Genesis 3:14
 
hobelim: Concerning post #(1039)

More lies. Jesus never taught that the words in the Law were figurative and that the subjects hidden and not literal. At times He spoke in parables. Of which some He gave the interpretation to show how to interpret them. And at times metaphors or similes or allegory is used, but even then it is interpreted Biblically.

But that is part of 'literal interpretation'. Literal interpretation allows for the use of that. But that doesn't mean everything in the Bible, or of Jesus words, is to be interpreted symbolically or figuratively....as you want to and as you need to because the Bible disagrees with you. And the only way you can use it is to abuse it and change what it says.

You haven't said what is the law of your god. Your god is not the God of the Bible. What is the name of your god? Is Jesus Christ the Son of the living God, the God/Man? Is the Bible the Word of God? Where do you learn about your jesus and god? Certainly not from the Bible.

More ignorance. Concerning (Matt. 5:17-20), it is not given to put Christians under law. Christ is speaking to the Jews who are still under the law. Christ is speaking of the Law and the Prophets. See verse (17). Of all that is in the Old Testament. Christ will fulfill it all. What does that mean? It means you ain't going to fulfill it. He, and He alone is.

The Pharisees were making a show of keeping the Law. No doubt they were trying to keep the Law, but no one can keep the Law. But worse, they did this to be accepted as 'righteous' by God. Just like you do. Which is fine before man. It looks good before man. But it stinks before God.

Which is why Christ said what he did in (Matt. 5:20) "For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter the kingdom of heaven." Which is why you left that verse out. The righteousness of the Law is unacceptable to God. Only the righteousness produced by faith pleases God and is accepted by God. Even those under the Mosaic Law were never saved by the Law. Only by faith.

Christ will fulfill the law and prophets. Not you. We are required to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and have His righteousness imputed to us. Not our righteousness...His.

(Gal. 3:24-25) "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster."

(Philippians 3:8-9) "Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith."

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