Zone1 Why is it so tough to believe in God?

[hobelim]

And are still headed to Hell. Ignorance is no defense.

Right. So there is no excuse for you desecrating the WORDS of Jesus, peddling bullshit in the name of the Lord.

I will tell you something. Try to hear.

YOU died in the very same day, decades ago, the first time you started blubbering on your knees about being a sinning piece of shit, begged forgiveness for being human, and accepted the Antichrist as your God and savior.

A false substitute counterfeit Jesus conjured from the depths of a Roman hell created in the image and likeness of Mithras and unleashed on the world in in 325ce, a virgin diddling ascetic mangod whose supernatural miracles of the lie (that scripture is to be taken literally) does not correspond to any real living being ever in existence.

You're not going to hell. YOU'RE ALREADY IN IT. YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY!

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, many do believe falsehoods. I can only tell you what I am convinced of and why I am convinced of it. It's not just a belief system, it's a relationship. What other faith literally has God living within you, speaking to you regularly?

Billions of people believe you are spreading falsehoods

 

[hadit]

Billions of people believe you are spreading falsehoods

And it's very easy to verify the truth of what I am saying.

 

[rightwinger]

And it's very easy to verify the truth of what I am saying.

OK

Give us some facts not based on faith

 

[hadit]

OK

Give us some facts not based on faith

You're not willing to do what will prove I am right. You might as well say to a blind man, "Pick out the apple without using your hands".

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You're not willing to do what will prove I am right. You might as well say to a blind man, "Pick out the apple without using your hands".

Which goes to show that what you are referring to as evidence is not actually evidence.

 

[hadit]

Which goes to show that what you are referring to as evidence is not actually evidence.

First-hand testimony is evidence in any courtroom.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

And your insistence that God be proven by means that man can control negates His being a sovereign, independent, intelligent being that cannot be contained in a man-made box and treated like a lab experiment. Trying to force proof of God into a scientifically verifiable and replicable box simply can never be done. In fact, if He COULD be placed in such a box, He would cease to be God and would merely be another physical phenomenon. Man is always seeking to reduce God to such simple terms and can never do so.

Je$u$

More proof that Theism is the jealousy of the mentally inferior for the mentally superior. More proof that religion is totally owned by the secular tyranny, which steals all its wealth by humiliating the mentally superior.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Narrow is the gate to eternal life. There is ONLY one way.

You're Preaching, "My Way or the Highway!" That Makes Your Way the Low Way.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

First-hand testimony is evidence in any courtroom.

No it most certainly is not. It is testimony.

And we.only rely on testimony in a courtroom because we don't always have objective evidence available, and a decision must be made anyway


I don't have to make a decision on whether or not gods exist, and I certainly would never do so based on the most unreliable method known to mankind: eyewitness testimony.

 

[rightwinger]

You're not willing to do what will prove I am right. You might as well say to a blind man, "Pick out the apple without using your hands".

Nice dodge

Provide actual facts

 

[Quantrill]

No it most certainly is not. It is testimony.

And we.only rely on testimony in a courtroom because we don't always have objective evidence available, and a decision must be made anyway


I don't have to make a decision on whether or not gods exist, and I certainly would never do so based on the most unreliable method known to mankind: eyewitness testimony.

Of course you don't have to make a decision. And based upon your method of knowing, your decision is already made.

So, what is your problem?

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

Nice dodge

Provide actual facts

Provide actual facts for what?

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

OK

Give us some facts not based on faith

Who says facts based upon faith are not facts? You?

Quantrill

 

[rightwinger]

Who says facts based upon faith are not facts? You?

Quantrill

Ummm…Yes

Faith is not Facts

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Of course you don't have to make a decision. And based upon your method of knowing, your decision is already made.

That's right I don't. Neither does anyone else.

So the court analogy mentioned earlier was not fitting.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Who says facts based upon faith are not facts? You?

Quantrill

Only if you get it right for all the wrong reasons.

Which gets you marked as incorrect, on a math quiz.

 

[EMH]

The Jews that wrote the New Testament believed it.

Bull.

Jesus died, and then 40 years later Jews started to marvel and just how badly this slimebag conned people. People "wanted to believe" the "son of God" bs. It was "powerful" enough to get them to part with all wealth and freedom (and almost their lives).

The New Testament was written to provide a "religion of the unChosen" to "serve the Chosen."

People of science are not going to get their more proof

because it is all BS, always was, always has been. You worship a sick evil person who is dead and never coming back.

 

[DukeU]

Bull.

Jesus died, and then 40 years later Jews started to marvel and just how badly this slimebag conned people. People "wanted to believe" the "son of God" bs. It was "powerful" enough to get them to part with all wealth and freedom (and almost their lives).

The New Testament was written to provide a "religion of the unChosen" to "serve the Chosen."






because it is all BS, always was, always has been. You worship a sick evil person who is dead and never coming back.

Do you love anybody?

 

[EMH]

Do you love anybody?

Her...