Why is Heaven so desirable to so many...

[irosie91]

your sunday school teachers have you confused. ---they forgot to tell you just
WHO were the priests and the money changers in those days-----(hint---NOT THE
PHARISEES AND NOT THE "SCRIBES")

How is that important in the question of what motivated Jesus to act like he did?

VITAL ------but you are beyond help-----your sunday school education is
WELL INGRAINED. I will ease you in GENTLY. Who in zero CE did not
like the money changers and the temple priests and WHY?

Your conspiracy theories don't hold water, Irosie. There are >24,000 written manuscripts that preclude a conspiracy by Rome 200 years later.

I have no "conspiracy theory"------did I suggest that ROMAN AGENTS attacked
the money changers? ROFLMAO @ 200 years later. There is no shortage of
writings circa year zero CE. Do you have any idea at all why Rome decided
to take Judea?-------for the sake of friendship?

How does that have anything to do with this, Irosie?

by "that" do you mean the Roman occupation of Judea? (try to limit
pronouns)

 

[ding]

How is that important in the question of what motivated Jesus to act like he did?

VITAL ------but you are beyond help-----your sunday school education is
WELL INGRAINED. I will ease you in GENTLY. Who in zero CE did not
like the money changers and the temple priests and WHY?

Your conspiracy theories don't hold water, Irosie. There are >24,000 written manuscripts that preclude a conspiracy by Rome 200 years later.

I have no "conspiracy theory"------did I suggest that ROMAN AGENTS attacked
the money changers? ROFLMAO @ 200 years later. There is no shortage of
writings circa year zero CE. Do you have any idea at all why Rome decided
to take Judea?-------for the sake of friendship?

How does that have anything to do with this, Irosie?

by "that" do you mean the Roman occupation of Judea? (try to limit
pronouns)

You tell me. You're the one who is taking the detour.

I am just explaining why Jesus reacted the way he did.

What you are talking about has nothing to do with that.

 

[irosie91]

VITAL ------but you are beyond help-----your sunday school education is
WELL INGRAINED. I will ease you in GENTLY. Who in zero CE did not
like the money changers and the temple priests and WHY?

Your conspiracy theories don't hold water, Irosie. There are >24,000 written manuscripts that preclude a conspiracy by Rome 200 years later.

I have no "conspiracy theory"------did I suggest that ROMAN AGENTS attacked
the money changers? ROFLMAO @ 200 years later. There is no shortage of
writings circa year zero CE. Do you have any idea at all why Rome decided
to take Judea?-------for the sake of friendship?

How does that have anything to do with this, Irosie?

by "that" do you mean the Roman occupation of Judea? (try to limit
pronouns)

You tell me. You're the one who is taking the detour.

I am just explaining why Jesus reacted the way he did.

What you are talking about has nothing to do with that.

you explained nothing-------your very shallow allusions suggest that Jesus
attacked the money changers because they were superficial in their religious
beliefs? ----that is a really idiotic "explanation". Its like demanding to know
the religious beliefs of your local newspaper peddler. You make jesus seem
like a nut

 

[ding]

Your conspiracy theories don't hold water, Irosie. There are >24,000 written manuscripts that preclude a conspiracy by Rome 200 years later.

I have no "conspiracy theory"------did I suggest that ROMAN AGENTS attacked
the money changers? ROFLMAO @ 200 years later. There is no shortage of
writings circa year zero CE. Do you have any idea at all why Rome decided
to take Judea?-------for the sake of friendship?

How does that have anything to do with this, Irosie?

by "that" do you mean the Roman occupation of Judea? (try to limit
pronouns)

You tell me. You're the one who is taking the detour.

I am just explaining why Jesus reacted the way he did.

What you are talking about has nothing to do with that.

you explained nothing-------your very shallow allusions suggest that Jesus
attacked the money changers because they were superficial in their religious
beliefs? ----that is a really idiotic "explanation". Its like demanding to know
the religious beliefs of your local newspaper peddler. You make jesus seem
like a nut

There is nothing superficial in responding to people who pay lip service to God.

It's not the local newspeddler's job to NOT pay lip service to God.

 

[irosie91]

I have no "conspiracy theory"------did I suggest that ROMAN AGENTS attacked
the money changers? ROFLMAO @ 200 years later. There is no shortage of
writings circa year zero CE. Do you have any idea at all why Rome decided
to take Judea?-------for the sake of friendship?

How does that have anything to do with this, Irosie?

by "that" do you mean the Roman occupation of Judea? (try to limit
pronouns)

You tell me. You're the one who is taking the detour.

I am just explaining why Jesus reacted the way he did.

What you are talking about has nothing to do with that.

you explained nothing-------your very shallow allusions suggest that Jesus
attacked the money changers because they were superficial in their religious
beliefs? ----that is a really idiotic "explanation". Its like demanding to know
the religious beliefs of your local newspaper peddler. You make jesus seem
like a nut

There is nothing superficial in responding to people who pay lip service to God.

It's not the local newspeddler's job to NOT pay lip service to God.

sheeeeesh-----the money changers in the TEMPLE COURTYARD---
were not clergy--------you are really really CONFUSED. They were
people "making a living" like the local newspaper stand. Your grasp
of the situation in Roman occupied Judea is one BIG JOKE

 

[ding]

How does that have anything to do with this, Irosie?

by "that" do you mean the Roman occupation of Judea? (try to limit
pronouns)

You tell me. You're the one who is taking the detour.

I am just explaining why Jesus reacted the way he did.

What you are talking about has nothing to do with that.

you explained nothing-------your very shallow allusions suggest that Jesus
attacked the money changers because they were superficial in their religious
beliefs? ----that is a really idiotic "explanation". Its like demanding to know
the religious beliefs of your local newspaper peddler. You make jesus seem
like a nut

There is nothing superficial in responding to people who pay lip service to God.

It's not the local newspeddler's job to NOT pay lip service to God.

sheeeeesh-----the money changers in the TEMPLE COURTYARD---
were not clergy--------you are really really CONFUSED. They were
people "making a living" like the local newspaper stand. Your grasp
of the situation in Roman occupied Judea is one BIG JOKE

But they were there with their blessing, Rosie.

 

[irosie91]

by "that" do you mean the Roman occupation of Judea? (try to limit
pronouns)

You tell me. You're the one who is taking the detour.

I am just explaining why Jesus reacted the way he did.

What you are talking about has nothing to do with that.

you explained nothing-------your very shallow allusions suggest that Jesus
attacked the money changers because they were superficial in their religious
beliefs? ----that is a really idiotic "explanation". Its like demanding to know
the religious beliefs of your local newspaper peddler. You make jesus seem
like a nut

There is nothing superficial in responding to people who pay lip service to God.

It's not the local newspeddler's job to NOT pay lip service to God.

sheeeeesh-----the money changers in the TEMPLE COURTYARD---
were not clergy--------you are really really CONFUSED. They were
people "making a living" like the local newspaper stand. Your grasp
of the situation in Roman occupied Judea is one BIG JOKE

But they were there with their blessing, Rosie.

SHEEEESH------two pronouns in one meaningless sentence.
Please specify "they" and "their"

 

[ding]

You tell me. You're the one who is taking the detour.

I am just explaining why Jesus reacted the way he did.

What you are talking about has nothing to do with that.

you explained nothing-------your very shallow allusions suggest that Jesus
attacked the money changers because they were superficial in their religious
beliefs? ----that is a really idiotic "explanation". Its like demanding to know
the religious beliefs of your local newspaper peddler. You make jesus seem
like a nut

There is nothing superficial in responding to people who pay lip service to God.

It's not the local newspeddler's job to NOT pay lip service to God.

sheeeeesh-----the money changers in the TEMPLE COURTYARD---
were not clergy--------you are really really CONFUSED. They were
people "making a living" like the local newspaper stand. Your grasp
of the situation in Roman occupied Judea is one BIG JOKE

But they were there with their blessing, Rosie.

SHEEEESH------two pronouns in one meaningless sentence.
Please specify "they" and "their"

They = money changers
their = jewish priests

It shouldn't have been that difficult to follow. You are just being difficult.

 

[irosie91]

you explained nothing-------your very shallow allusions suggest that Jesus
attacked the money changers because they were superficial in their religious
beliefs? ----that is a really idiotic "explanation". Its like demanding to know
the religious beliefs of your local newspaper peddler. You make jesus seem
like a nut

There is nothing superficial in responding to people who pay lip service to God.

It's not the local newspeddler's job to NOT pay lip service to God.

sheeeeesh-----the money changers in the TEMPLE COURTYARD---
were not clergy--------you are really really CONFUSED. They were
people "making a living" like the local newspaper stand. Your grasp
of the situation in Roman occupied Judea is one BIG JOKE

But they were there with their blessing, Rosie.

SHEEEESH------two pronouns in one meaningless sentence.
Please specify "they" and "their"

They = money changers
their = jewish priests

It shouldn't have been that difficult to follow. You are just being difficult.

Oh---now I understand-----Your sunday school teachers were almost but not
quite correct. THE REALITY is that the temple courtyard was under the
control of the "authorities"-------who at that time were the ROMAN SHILL SADDUCEEAN PRIESTS (whom the Pharisees despised for being roman
shills) and the Romans. (whom the Pharisees despised for being the occupying
power) There is hope that you might come close to understanding the
situation at that time and WHY Jesus and friends despised the MONEY CHANGERS and Caiaphas and Annas

 

[ding]

There is nothing superficial in responding to people who pay lip service to God.

It's not the local newspeddler's job to NOT pay lip service to God.

sheeeeesh-----the money changers in the TEMPLE COURTYARD---
were not clergy--------you are really really CONFUSED. They were
people "making a living" like the local newspaper stand. Your grasp
of the situation in Roman occupied Judea is one BIG JOKE

But they were there with their blessing, Rosie.

SHEEEESH------two pronouns in one meaningless sentence.
Please specify "they" and "their"

They = money changers
their = jewish priests

It shouldn't have been that difficult to follow. You are just being difficult.

Oh---now I understand-----Your sunday school teachers were almost but not
quite correct. THE REALITY is that the temple courtyard was under the
control of the "authorities"-------who at that time were the ROMAN SHILL SADDUCEEAN PRIESTS (whom the Pharisees despised for being roman
shills) and the Romans. (whom the Pharisees despised for being the occupying
power) There is hope that you might come close to understanding the
situation at that time and WHY Jesus and friends despised the MONEY CHANGERS and Caiaphas and Annas

You really believe that? Really?

 

[irosie91]

sheeeeesh-----the money changers in the TEMPLE COURTYARD---
were not clergy--------you are really really CONFUSED. They were
people "making a living" like the local newspaper stand. Your grasp
of the situation in Roman occupied Judea is one BIG JOKE

But they were there with their blessing, Rosie.

SHEEEESH------two pronouns in one meaningless sentence.
Please specify "they" and "their"

They = money changers
their = jewish priests

It shouldn't have been that difficult to follow. You are just being difficult.

Oh---now I understand-----Your sunday school teachers were almost but not
quite correct. THE REALITY is that the temple courtyard was under the
control of the "authorities"-------who at that time were the ROMAN SHILL SADDUCEEAN PRIESTS (whom the Pharisees despised for being roman
shills) and the Romans. (whom the Pharisees despised for being the occupying
power) There is hope that you might come close to understanding the
situation at that time and WHY Jesus and friends despised the MONEY CHANGERS and Caiaphas and Annas

You really believe that? Really?

I know it--------the Pharisees were very LITERATE -----and productive in their
writings---very communicative-----in Aramaic. I also know that Mickey Mantle
played in the WORLD SERIES for the YANKEES against the DODGERS in 1955.
I know people who can identify the KOSHER species of grass-hoppers. You
want to ask me the RECIPE for transforming base metal to gold?

 

[BreezeWood]

Do you get to fuck, feast, fight, and drink in heaven? What a shitty destination.

Let's start a war with Mexico and win, or die and go to Valhalla, shall we?

they are both present in the Everlasting except of course the christian version - for Heaven any way best be more than a make believe immortal wet behind the ears, to enter.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,

1. The money changers worked for the priesthood, they were keepers of the Temple Mount, under the strict authority of the Priesthood, not the Romans.
2. Their job was to convert any currency to the Shekel, the local monetary currency, the Jews were required by the OT to bring in a sacrifice of i think a shekel to put into the Temple treasury.
3. It was very cheap, but the money changers were ripping the worshipers (Jews) off taking more than that was required from the worshipers other currency, in order to hand them a shekel to pay the Temple Sacrifice, which by its very implementation turned into a tax not a sacrifice which it should of remained.
4. Turned into a tax because it was required and not given as a sacrifice, no pay the tax; a shekel, no entrance.
5. The very poor didn't have even two pence.
6. A shekel of that time was like a quarter this time, not a lot of money but still more than a penny.
7. Jesus said, "The poor widow who put in ALL her living (two pennies), put in more than ALL the rich people who had put in much."
8. So there is the proof its not what you put in its where your heart is as you put it in.
9. Pearls of wisdom at times turns one away from the herd.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[ding]

But they were there with their blessing, Rosie.

SHEEEESH------two pronouns in one meaningless sentence.
Please specify "they" and "their"

They = money changers
their = jewish priests

It shouldn't have been that difficult to follow. You are just being difficult.

Oh---now I understand-----Your sunday school teachers were almost but not
quite correct. THE REALITY is that the temple courtyard was under the
control of the "authorities"-------who at that time were the ROMAN SHILL SADDUCEEAN PRIESTS (whom the Pharisees despised for being roman
shills) and the Romans. (whom the Pharisees despised for being the occupying
power) There is hope that you might come close to understanding the
situation at that time and WHY Jesus and friends despised the MONEY CHANGERS and Caiaphas and Annas

You really believe that? Really?

I know it--------the Pharisees were very LITERATE -----and productive in their
writings---very communicative-----in Aramaic. I also know that Mickey Mantle
played in the WORLD SERIES for the YANKEES against the DODGERS in 1955.
I know people who can identify the KOSHER species of grass-hoppers. You
want to ask me the RECIPE for transforming base metal to gold?

I want you to think about the ridiculousness of Romans being involved and directing Jewish religious practices.

 

[irosie91]

Sorry bout that,

1. The money changers worked for the priesthood, they were keepers of the Temple Mount, under the strict authority of the Priesthood, not the Romans.
2. Their job was to convert any currency to the Shekel, the local monetary currency, the Jews were required by the OT to bring in a sacrifice of i think a shekel to put into the Temple treasury.
3. It was very cheap, but the money changers were ripping the worshipers (Jews) off taking more than that was required from the worshipers other currency, in order to hand them a shekel to pay the Temple Sacrifice, which by its very implementation turned into a tax not a sacrifice which it should of remained.
4. Turned into a tax because it was required and not given as a sacrifice, no pay the tax; a shekel, no entrance.
5. The very poor didn't have even two pence.
6. A shekel of that time was like a quarter this time, not a lot of money but still more than a penny.
7. Jesus said, "The poor widow who put in ALL her living (two pennies), put in more than ALL the rich people who had put in much."
8. So there is the proof its not what you put in its where your heart is as you put it in.
9. Pearls of wisdom at times turns one away from the herd.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

your catechism whore lied, the ENTIRE yearly temple tax was ONE HALF OF ONE SHECKEL ---well within the means of any person in Judea. The tax had NOTHING to do with the jews outside of Judea and NO ONE EVER OBJECTED TO IT. The issue in Jerusalem was COMMERCE ----not only for jews but for the surrounding populations. The Pharisees OBJECTED to the USE of the temple courtyard for that commerce----because it was RIFE WITH ROMAN CORRUPTION with the cooperation of the ROMAN SHILL appointed sadducean "priests"

 

[irosie91]

SHEEEESH------two pronouns in one meaningless sentence.
Please specify "they" and "their"

They = money changers
their = jewish priests

It shouldn't have been that difficult to follow. You are just being difficult.

Oh---now I understand-----Your sunday school teachers were almost but not
quite correct. THE REALITY is that the temple courtyard was under the
control of the "authorities"-------who at that time were the ROMAN SHILL SADDUCEEAN PRIESTS (whom the Pharisees despised for being roman
shills) and the Romans. (whom the Pharisees despised for being the occupying
power) There is hope that you might come close to understanding the
situation at that time and WHY Jesus and friends despised the MONEY CHANGERS and Caiaphas and Annas

You really believe that? Really?

I know it--------the Pharisees were very LITERATE -----and productive in their
writings---very communicative-----in Aramaic. I also know that Mickey Mantle
played in the WORLD SERIES for the YANKEES against the DODGERS in 1955.
I know people who can identify the KOSHER species of grass-hoppers. You
want to ask me the RECIPE for transforming base metal to gold?

I want you to think about the ridiculousness of Romans being involved and directing Jewish religious practices.

what a joke you are-----not only did the ROMANS control just who were the "HIGH PRIESTS" ------they also appointed the HATED edomite roman shill "KING" to wit---
HEROD. As to jewish practices----there were various sectors. The Pharisees were the jews who rejected the ROMAN INFLUENCE ----there were others who tended to develop monastic style outposts in the STICKS -----as in the desert. John the Baptist was such a character (murdered by the ROMAN SHILL--HEROD) The Essenes were another group. SHEEESH -----you are dim

 

[irosie91]

you got anything else to say to demonstrate your utter ignorance of the details of the Roman occupation of Judea, dingbat? Why do you
imagine that I KNOW the names CAIAPHAS AND ANNAS? you imagine I can name every
"HIGH PRIEST"? any idea what the "high priest" was that does not conform with your idiot
"interpretations"

 

[irosie91]

Sorry bout that,

1. The money changers worked for the priesthood, they were keepers of the Temple Mount, under the strict authority of the Priesthood, not the Romans.
2. Their job was to convert any currency to the Shekel, the local monetary currency, the Jews were required by the OT to bring in a sacrifice of i think a shekel to put into the Temple treasury.
3. It was very cheap, but the money changers were ripping the worshipers (Jews) off taking more than that was required from the worshipers other currency, in order to hand them a shekel to pay the Temple Sacrifice, which by its very implementation turned into a tax not a sacrifice which it should of remained.
4. Turned into a tax because it was required and not given as a sacrifice, no pay the tax; a shekel, no entrance.
5. The very poor didn't have even two pence.
6. A shekel of that time was like a quarter this time, not a lot of money but still more than a penny.
7. Jesus said, "The poor widow who put in ALL her living (two pennies), put in more than ALL the rich people who had put in much."
8. So there is the proof its not what you put in its where your heart is as you put it in.
9. Pearls of wisdom at times turns one away from the herd.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

way off TEX-----the half shekel was a tax-----no one denied that. No one called it a SACRIFICE. The money changers accommodated VISITORS to Jerusalem who
needed local tender to function in Jerusalem-----lots of people traveled TO JERUSALEM ---especially during the Passover holiday. The
money changers were answerable to the ROMANS and their SHILLS-----the Temple was a BIG MONEY MAKER for the romans----why do you imagine the Romans WANTED
JUDEA? -------for a texas barbecue?----the issue was EXTORTION. Why do you imagine the romans APPOINTED the "high priests"?

 

[evenflow1969]

...and not Valhalla?

Do you get to fuck, feast, fight, and drink in heaven? What a shitty destination.

Let's start a war with Mexico and win, or die and go to Valhalla, shall we?

If there are no dogs there, it is not heaven! Even if there is nothing after, would that be so bad. You were then you were not. I do not have much of issue with that.

 

[irosie91]

Sorry bout that,

1. The money changers worked for the priesthood, they were keepers of the Temple Mount, under the strict authority of the Priesthood, not the Romans.
2. Their job was to convert any currency to the Shekel, the local monetary currency, the Jews were required by the OT to bring in a sacrifice of i think a shekel to put into the Temple treasury.
3. It was very cheap, but the money changers were ripping the worshipers (Jews) off taking more than that was required from the worshipers other currency, in order to hand them a shekel to pay the Temple Sacrifice, which by its very implementation turned into a tax not a sacrifice which it should of remained.
4. Turned into a tax because it was required and not given as a sacrifice, no pay the tax; a shekel, no entrance.
5. The very poor didn't have even two pence.
6. A shekel of that time was like a quarter this time, not a lot of money but still more than a penny.
7. Jesus said, "The poor widow who put in ALL her living (two pennies), put in more than ALL the rich people who had put in much."
8. So there is the proof its not what you put in its where your heart is as you put it in.
9. Pearls of wisdom at times turns one away from the herd.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

oh gee----dingbat THANKED tex for that load of bullshit