Zone1 Did Moses go to Heaven?

[Cougarbear]

But no evidence of Lehi and the Nephites.

Not yet. Of course, we assume the translations with the Rosetta Stone are accurate. And, millions of acres of LyDar showing ruins yet uncovered in South America. There is plenty of evidence so far anyways.

 

[surada]

Moses, the original Moses, a Midian, was offed by Joshua and the Levites on top of Mt Sinai.

That is why the "Moses" who came down the mountain "looked different" and why it was "necessary" to off 3500 people that evening for the high crime of "dancing." In reality, the Levites offed all the Midians who noticed the guy who came down the mountain was NOT THE REAL MOSES but rather a LEVITE FRAUD who needed 40 days to GROW A BEARD...

Well, that's wild.

 

[surada]

Not yet. Of course, we assume the translations with the Rosetta Stone are accurate. And, millions of acres of LyDar showing ruins yet uncovered in South America. There is plenty of evidence so far anyways.

His mom said he translated the Book of Abraham by staring into a hat.

 

[surada]

I was scrolling Google today for the age of Noah when questions came up about Moses. One of the questions was, "Did Moses go to Heaven?" We know that he was supposed to have died at the entrance of the Promised Land. There's another type of death called transliteration where people may think a person died but actually the body is put into an immortal state awaiting the resurrection. They can appear to people from time to time as well.

My answer is that both Moses and Elijah appeared to Jesus Christ on the Mount of Transfiguration. "Feast of the Transfiguration, Christian commemoration of the occasion upon which Jesus Christ took three of his disciples, Peter, James, and John, up on a mountain, where Moses and Elijah appeared and Jesus was transfigured, his face and clothes becoming dazzlingly bright (Mark 9:2–13; Matthew 17:1–13; Luke 9:28–36)."

So, I guess it depends on your definition of Heaven. Most likely, he went to where every other repentant good person goes to after the death of their body, Paradise. I would think Paradise is a substation of Heaven. So, the fact he appeared to Jesus Christ in an angelic like way, Moses certainly went to "Heaven."

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The story of Moses has lots of problems.

Moses the Midianite - TheTorah.com

Israel’s cries for help in Egypt reach all the way to God, upon “the Mountain of God” in Midian. In response, God sends Moses, a local shepherd, to free them. | Dr. Rabbi Tzemah Yoreh

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[Cougarbear]

His mom said he translated the Book of Abraham by staring into a hat.

Wrong book… Nice try.

 

[Cougarbear]

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The story of Moses has lots of problems.

Moses the Midianite - TheTorah.com

Israel’s cries for help in Egypt reach all the way to God, upon “the Mountain of God” in Midian. In response, God sends Moses, a local shepherd, to free them. | Dr. Rabbi Tzemah Yoreh

www.thetorah.com

Talking to the wrong person. I am not a non-believer.

 

[surada]

Talking to the wrong person. I am not a non-believer.

Did Joseph Smith Use a Seer Stone in the Translation of the Book of Abraham? | Religious Studies Center

A complete understanding of how Joseph Smith translated the Book of Abraham unfortunately remains elusive. Writing in the introduction to the Joseph Smith Papers Project’s edition of the manuscripts pertaining to the Book of Abraham, volume editors Robin Scott Jensen and Brian M.

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The earliest known account that mentions the Prophet using a seer stone in connection with the translation of the Book of Abraham surfaced just one month later from an Ohio newspaper—the Cleveland Whig, which on August 5, 1835, reported the following:

Another Humbug.—We are credibly informed that the Mormons have purchased of Mr. Chandler, three of the mummies, which he recently exhibited in this village; and that the prophet Joe has ascertained, by examining the papyrus through his spectacles, that they are the bodies of Joseph (the son of Abraham,) and King Abimeleck, and his daughter. With this shallow and contemptible story, Williams has commenced travelling about the country, and will no doubt gull multitudes into a belief of its truth. Surely one half of the world are fools.

 

[Cougarbear]

Did Joseph Smith Use a Seer Stone in the Translation of the Book of Abraham? | Religious Studies Center

A complete understanding of how Joseph Smith translated the Book of Abraham unfortunately remains elusive. Writing in the introduction to the Joseph Smith Papers Project’s edition of the manuscripts pertaining to the Book of Abraham, volume editors Robin Scott Jensen and Brian M.

rsc.byu.edu

The earliest known account that mentions the Prophet using a seer stone in connection with the translation of the Book of Abraham surfaced just one month later from an Ohio newspaper—the Cleveland Whig, which on August 5, 1835, reported the following:

Another Humbug.—We are credibly informed that the Mormons have purchased of Mr. Chandler, three of the mummies, which he recently exhibited in this village; and that the prophet Joe has ascertained, by examining the papyrus through his spectacles, that they are the bodies of Joseph (the son of Abraham,) and King Abimeleck, and his daughter. With this shallow and contemptible story, Williams has commenced travelling about the country, and will no doubt gull multitudes into a belief of its truth. Surely one half of the world are fools.

The seer stone is part of the Urim and Thumim. Yawn…

 

[surada]

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The Urim and Thummim (Heb. אוּרִים וְתֻמִּים) was a priestly device for obtaining oracles. On the high priest's ephod (an apron-like garment) lay a breastpiece (חֹשֶׁן) – a pouch inlaid with 12 precious stones engraved with the names of the 12 tribes of Israel – that held the Urim and Thummim (Ex. 28:15–30; Lev. 8:8). By means of the Urim, the priest inquired of YHWH on behalf of the ruler (Num. 27:21; cf. Yoma 7:5, "only for the king, the high court, or someone serving a need of the community"); they were one of the three legitimate means of obtaining oracles in early Israel (Urim, dreams, prophets; I Sam. 28:6). Owing to the oracular character of the Urim, the breastpiece is called "the breastpiece of decision" (חֹשֶׁן הַמִּשְׁפָּט). (The concept evokes "the Tablets of Destiny" in Babylonian mythology – the symbol of supreme authority that lay on the breast of the chief god; Pritchard, Texts, 63, 67, 111.) The right to work this oracle was reserved for the levitical priests (Deut. 33:8).

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[irosie91]

Well, that's wild.

it's very creative

 

[EMH]

Well, that's wild.

and then it was necessary to attack Midian and exterminate all but the hot YOUNG virgins who would never notice the "Moses" who ordered the extermination was not the same "Moses" the Midians gave refuge too....


The original Jews = murder, fraud, and multiple acts of unprovoked genocides...

 

[surada]

Moses the Midianite - TheTorah.com

Israel’s cries for help in Egypt reach all the way to God, upon “the Mountain of God” in Midian. In response, God sends Moses, a local shepherd, to free them. | Dr. Rabbi Tzemah Yoreh

www.thetorah.com

Exod 3:13 Moses said to God, “When I come to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers’ [house] has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is [God’s] name?’ what shall I say to them?”