Why doesn't meat help meat eaters be healthy?

[gipper]

No it's not. Stupidity is though.

Only a fool would rather eat the shit on the right.

 

[Blues Man]

Only a fool would rather eat the shit on the right.
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Only an idiot would think that a vegan only eats broccoli

 

[gipper]

Only an idiot would think that a vegan only eats broccoli

Who believes that, Mr. Strawman?

 

[Blues Man]

Who believes that, Mr. Strawman?

You do obviously.

I guarantee you I eat a larger variety and quantity of food than you do

 

[Orangecat]

There are plant sources of protein as well.

And we are not in "survival" mode anymore. Food is more than abundant in every even moderately industrialized country.

All good, be vegan if that's your thing.

 

[gipper]

You do obviously.

I guarantee you I eat a larger variety and quantity of food than you do

Lol. Is English your second language?

 

[Blues Man]

Lol. Is English your second language?

Why do you think the only thing I would eat rather than a steak is broccoli?

That's all you showed in your little picture wasn't it?

 

[gipper]

Why do you think the only thing I would eat rather than a steak is broccoli?

That's all you showed in your little picture wasn't it?

Truth!

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Eating plants is dangerous.

Eh, What's Up, Doc?

Vegans vegetate. In order to survive, the ruling class needs to turn the ruled into pushovers, that's why they promote this unsatisfying and unmanly rabbit food. Constant criticism of meat-eating is a danger to our freedom.

 

[Leo123]

Vegans need to eat more. Herbivores spend most of their lives eating. Cows, horses and even gorillas. All they do is eat all day to get enough nourishment to survive.

 

[braalian]

The government would love a nation of men turned into pale, skinny soy-boy vegans.

Those guys do as they’re told.

 

[gipper]

The government would love a nation of men turned into pale, skinny soy-boy vegans.

Those guys do as they’re told.

I don’t know about that, but clearly vegans aren’t very smart. They’ve bought into a lie promoted by the establishment, plus they’re eating crap that harms their health. It might also cause brain damage.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The government would love a nation of men turned into pale, skinny soy-boy vegans.

Those guys do as they’re told.

The Right to Inheritance Is a Sacred Cow

Notice that India, with its anti-democratic caste system, forbids eating meat. That's what keeps the rajahs in power. QED. So we should be suspicious when the same Who's Your Daddy? types push veganism here.

 

[gipper]

Why do you think the only thing I would eat rather than a steak is broccoli?

That's all you showed in your little picture wasn't it?

Stop eating plants today and save yourself. Why would anyone want to eat pesticides? Yucky!!!
buttercup

Dietary pesticides (99.99% all natural).​

B N Ames, M Profet, and L S Gold
Author information Copyright and License information Disclaimer

Abstract​

The toxicological significance of exposures to synthetic chemicals is examined in the context of exposures to naturally occurring chemicals. We calculate that 99.99% (by weight) of the pesticides in the American diet are chemicals that plants produce to defend themselves. Only 52 natural pesticides have been tested in high-dose animal cancer tests, and about half (27) are rodent carcinogens; these 27 are shown to be present in many common foods. We conclude that natural and synthetic chemicals are equally likely to be positive in animal cancer tests. We also conclude that at the low doses of most human exposures the comparative hazards of synthetic pesticide residues are insignificant.
Dietary pesticides (99.99% all natural).

 

[Blues Man]

Stop eating plants today and save yourself. Why would anyone want to eat pesticides? Yucky!!!
buttercup

Dietary pesticides (99.99% all natural).​

B N Ames, M Profet, and L S Gold
Author information Copyright and License information Disclaimer

Abstract​

The toxicological significance of exposures to synthetic chemicals is examined in the context of exposures to naturally occurring chemicals. We calculate that 99.99% (by weight) of the pesticides in the American diet are chemicals that plants produce to defend themselves. Only 52 natural pesticides have been tested in high-dose animal cancer tests, and about half (27) are rodent carcinogens; these 27 are shown to be present in many common foods. We conclude that natural and synthetic chemicals are equally likely to be positive in animal cancer tests. We also conclude that at the low doses of most human exposures the comparative hazards of synthetic pesticide residues are insignificant.
Dietary pesticides (99.99% all natural).

I don't eat pesticides you all kinds of added hormones and antibiotics.

And since the animals you eat are eating pesticides on their feed and we all know that those toxins concentrate in fat and muscle tissue it is you who are actually eating a higher concentration of pesticides than I am.

And natural compounds produced by edible plants are not really a danger to anyone.

And those tests" you are referencing are not to be believed because they use doses so high that no humans could eat enough vegetable to ever get close to the concentrations they use. It's like those tests they did on artificial sweeteners where humans would have to ingest hundreds of pounds of the stuff every week to get an equivalent dose they were giving to the rats.

 

[gipper]

I don't eat pesticides you all kinds of added hormones and antibiotics.

And since the animals you eat are eating pesticides on their feed and we all know that those toxins concentrate in fat and muscle tissue it is you who are actually eating a higher concentration of pesticides than I am.

And natural compounds produced by edible plants are not really a danger to anyone.

And those tests" you are referencing are not to be believed because they use doses so high that no humans could eat enough vegetable to ever get close to the concentrations they use. It's like those tests they did on artificial sweeteners where humans would have to ingest hundreds of pounds of the stuff every week to get an equivalent dose they were giving to the rats.

Apparently you can’t read.

You eat only plants because you want to save the animals. Nice thought, but you’re consuming carcinogens with all these natural pesticides.

 

[Blues Man]

Vegans need to eat more. Herbivores spend most of their lives eating. Cows, horses and even gorillas. All they do is eat all day to get enough nourishment to survive.

cows and horses eat low nutrition foods.

I eat food that is literally full of nutrients and I weigh a lot less then a cow or a horse. I eat 3 meals a day and that's it it works out to less than 2000 calories a day

 

[Blues Man]

Apparently you can’t read.

You eat only plants because you want to save the animals. Nice thought, but you’re consuming carcinogens with all these natural pesticides.

And all those things are concentrated in animal tissue and fat so you're actually eating more of them than I am because all the animals you eat are consuming a lot more pesticides than I am

17.1F: Biomagnification of Pesticides

In biomagnification the concentration of the persistent toxins (crosses) increase higher up the food chain. An increase of toxin concentration as the food chain moves up to higher levels. Organisms …

bio.libretexts.org

Pesticides found to accumulate in fat tissue

Pesticides accumulate in bodies with high fat content. This conclusion has been reported by scientists from the Far Eastern Federal University (FEFU), who have been studying seabirds and marine mammals of the Sea of Okhotsk and the Bering Sea for several years.

phys.org

 

[gipper]

And all those things are concentrated in animal tissue and fat so you're actually eating more of them than I am because all the animals you eat are consuming a lot more pesticides than I am

17.1F: Biomagnification of Pesticides

In biomagnification the concentration of the persistent toxins (crosses) increase higher up the food chain. An increase of toxin concentration as the food chain moves up to higher levels. Organisms …

bio.libretexts.org

Pesticides found to accumulate in fat tissue

Pesticides accumulate in bodies with high fat content. This conclusion has been reported by scientists from the Far Eastern Federal University (FEFU), who have been studying seabirds and marine mammals of the Sea of Okhotsk and the Bering Sea for several years.

phys.org

Okay than. You’ll die eating rabbit food with a sad face. I’ll die eating a ribeye with a happy face.

 

[Blues Man]

Okay than. You’ll die eating rabbit food with a sad face. I’ll die eating a ribeye with a happy face.

You'll die before I will most likely of a heart attack, stroke or cancer as the research has shown plant based diets lower the incidence of all 3 of those