Why doesn't meat help meat eaters be healthy?

[braalian]

So what?

And no it isn't. protein is protein.

Animal protein is plant protein after all

The point is that meat eaters are more muscular than vegans. I doubt it’s coincidence most vegans are skinny and frail

 

[Blues Man]

The point is that meat eaters are more muscular than vegans. I doubt it’s coincidence most vegans are skinny and frail

Most are not "skinny and frail.

a person can be very lean and still be very strong.

Look at your average gymnast how many bodybuilders have the strength and control over their bodies to do the things a gymnast can do? But you probably will try to tell me that gymnasts are skinny and frail because they don't bother trying to keep adding extra mass.

 

[gipper]

No way!

 

[Blues Man]

No way!

Denial is unhealthy

 

[braalian]

Most are not "skinny and frail.

a person can be very lean and still be very strong.

Look at your average gymnast how many bodybuilders have the strength and control over their bodies to do the things a gymnast can do? But you probably will try to tell me that gymnasts are skinny and frail because they don't bother trying to keep adding extra mass.

Gymnastics = flexibility and agility, not really about strength

Strength = stuff like bench pressing, arm wrestling

 

[gipper]

Denial is unhealthy

It certainly is.

 

[gipper]

Denial is unhealthy

You?

 

[Blues Man]

Gymnastics = flexibility and agility, not really about strength

Strength = stuff like bench pressing, arm wrestling

Of course it is



I know mass addicts like you who can't even do 10 pullups or a single pistol squat

Strength is not solely defined by muscle mass in fact too much mass actually reduces mobility and over all athleticism.

who is stronger the guy that can bench press 400 lbs once or the guy that can crank out 50 pullups?

 

[Blues Man]

You?
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Not even close.

I'm 5 10 and weigh about 180 at just under 10% body fat

 

[braalian]

Of course it is



I know mass addicts like you who can't even do 10 pullups or a single pistol squat

Strength is not solely defined by muscle mass in fact too much mass actually reduces mobility and over all athleticism.

who is stronger the guy that can bench press 400 lbs once or the guy that can crank out 50 pullups?

Well I can actually bench 405 like at least 4 reps and I’m a regional armwrestling champ. That’s strong by any definition.

I respect gymnasts. It takes hard work and skill. But I am stronger.

 

[Blues Man]

Well I can actually bench 405 like at least 4 reps and I’m a regional armwrestling champ. That’s strong by any definition.

I respect gymnasts. It takes hard work and skill. But I am stronger.

A bench press is not the only measure of strength.

IMO mastery over your own body weight is more important.

If a person can do more pull ups than you is he stronger than you?

 

[braalian]

A bench press is not the only measure of strength.

IMO mastery over your own body weight is more important.

If a person can do more pull ups than you is he stronger than you?

how much weight you can move is a pretty universal definition of strength.

 

[Blues Man]

how much weight you can move is a pretty universal definition of strength.

If a person can do more pullups than you is he stronger than you?

 

[braalian]

If a person can do more pullups than you is he stronger than you?

Not if I can pin him arm wrestling

 

[Woodznutz]

You?
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Waddaminut! I didn't authorize the use of my picture.

 

[Blues Man]

Not if I can pin him arm wrestling

I disagree.

If a gymnast can hold an iron cross longer than you is he stronger than you? I say he is.. If a guy can lever into a handstand from a sitting position and you can't is he stronger than you? I say he is.

Muscle mass does not always equal stronger and almost never equals superiority in fitness.

 

[braalian]

I disagree.

If a gymnast can hold an iron cross longer than you is he stronger than you? I say he is.. If a guy can lever into a handstand from a sitting position and you can't is he stronger than you? I say he is.

Muscle mass does not always equal stronger and almost never equals superiority in fitness.

But if I can pin his arm, by definition that means my arm is stronger than his.

 

[Blues Man]

But if I can pin his arm, by definition that means my arm is stronger than his.

If he can 25 pistol squats with his own body weight and you can't do one then his leg is stronger than yours.

 

[Blues Man]

But if I can pin his arm, by definition that means my arm is stronger than his.

Here's a better one.

Lets say a 175 lb martial artist can throw a punch that registers more force than your punch is he stronger than you?

These are fun arguments I don't want to imply any insult or disparagement.

I know a rock climber than can do pullups with just 2 fingers on a 3/4 in edge of a board. I think he is phenomenally strong

 

[gipper]

The point is that meat eaters are more muscular than vegans. I doubt it’s coincidence most vegans are skinny and frail

And sickly. Most have several health problems related directly to their silly diet. Eating a huge toxic load will do this.