Why eat a healthy diet?

[Mister Iggy]

It’s difficult to eat healthy in the US, because our food supply is contaminated. Going vegan hardly means eating healthy when those plants you eat are covered with herbicides and pesticides, and genetically modified. Too say nothing of the high levels of Oxylates found in many of those so called superfoods.

Many Americans like their doctors, know almost nothing about eating a healthy diet.

Prior to 1900 in the US, heart disease and cancer were almost unheard of. Something caused this.

Doctors are dangerous. I have a lot of vegans in my life and they are bad eaters. Not educated at all. Organic when possible, yes.

 

[Mister Iggy]

I don’t bother to eat much plant food or fiber. A nice juicy steak is all I need.
The establishment claims my cholesterol is high but I had a CT Heart Calcium Scoring test, which indicated I had clear arteries of a 30 year old. I’m in my 60s.
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Thats the carnivore diet, some people swear by it. Whatever works for you, is best.

 

[buttercup]

My health is WAY better now, as a vegan, than it was in my S.A.D days.

I almost never get sick. Whenever I get my bloodwork done it always comes back nearly perfect. Plus, I look a lot younger than I am. Heck, my cousin told me I look like I'm still in my 20s (I think he was exaggerating, but I had some friends that used to call me "the ageless wonder.")

 

[buttercup]

This man, Dr. Ellsworth Wareham, was vegan for more than 50 years. He lived to be 104, and he drove until he was 100! He's from one of the world's blue zones, Loma Linda California.

Check out these videos, especially the first one...

 

[DGS49]

The remarkable thing to me is how many cultures dictate diets that are terrible, according to all the experts. When I was in Vietnam, the typical diet was RICE, rice, rice, then maybe a piece of fish one day a week. And they seemed to be quite healthy.

My personal favorite bit of nonsense is bottled water. People carry water around as though they will faint if they don't get to take a sip every 5 minutes. This is total nonsense. No generation in the history of the world has drunk water like this, and there is NOTHING to indicate that it is healthy. Mass neurosis. I have never in my life taken a drink of water for any reason other than that I was thirsty. I was a runner for 35 years, and never drank an ounce in advance to prevent dehydration. Totally unnecessary.

 

[gipper]

The remarkable thing to me is how many cultures dictate diets that are terrible, according to all the experts. When I was in Vietnam, the typical diet was RICE, rice, rice, then maybe a piece of fish one day a week. And they seemed to be quite healthy.

My personal favorite bit of nonsense is bottled water. People carry water around as though they will faint if they don't get to take a sip every 5 minutes. This is total nonsense. No generation in the history of the world has drunk water like this, and there is NOTHING to indicate that it is healthy. Mass neurosis. I have never in my life taken a drink of water for any reason other than that I was thirsty. I was a runner for 35 years, and never drank an ounce in advance to prevent dehydration. Totally unnecessary.

Plus plastic water bottles are full of nanoplastics.
Bottled Water Is Full of Tiny Plastics. Here's How to Make It Safer for Drinking

 

[gipper]

Oh baby!!!

 

[sparky]

i'm on a somewhat fixed diet.....

~S~

 

[pbmdel]

Plus plastic water bottles are full of nanoplastics.
Bottled Water Is Full of Tiny Plastics. Here's How to Make It Safer for Drinking

The remarkable thing to me is how many cultures dictate diets that are terrible, according to all the experts. When I was in Vietnam, the typical diet was RICE, rice, rice, then maybe a piece of fish one day a week. And they seemed to be quite healthy.

My personal favorite bit of nonsense is bottled water. People carry water around as though they will faint if they don't get to take a sip every 5 minutes. This is total nonsense. No generation in the history of the world has drunk water like this, and there is NOTHING to indicate that it is healthy. Mass neurosis. I have never in my life taken a drink of water for any reason other than that I was thirsty. I was a runner for 35 years, and never drank an ounce in advance to prevent dehydration. Totally unnecessary.

The remarkable thing to me is how many cultures dictate diets that are terrible, according to all the experts. When I was in Vietnam, the typical diet was RICE, rice, rice, then maybe a piece of fish one day a week. And they seemed to be quite healthy.

My personal favorite bit of nonsense is bottled water. People carry water around as though they will faint if they don't get to take a sip every 5 minutes. This is total nonsense. No generation in the history of the world has drunk water like this, and there is NOTHING to indicate that it is healthy. Mass neurosis. I have never in my life taken a drink of water for any reason other than that I was thirsty. I was a runner for 35 years, and never drank an ounce in advance to prevent dehydration. Totally unnecessary.

Am guessing you were in Vietnam during their war. Of course, their life expectancy was largely negatively affected by their war casualties, but has increased by about 5 years to around 80 years by 2017.

Have you heard of the Blue Zones of the world? Dan Buettner, a National Geographic Explorer and journalist, coined the term "blue zones" in 2004 during an exploratory project. He led expeditions to identify longevity hotspots worldwide and wrote several books on the subject, including "The Blue Zones". These regions have significantly higher rates of people living to 100 years or more (centenarians) compared to other parts of the world, and their diets are mostly plant based.

1. Okinawa, Japan
2. Sardinia, Italy (Ogliastra Region)
3. Ikaria, Greece
4. Nicoya Peninsula, Costa Rica
5. Loma Linda, California, USA: A community of Seventh-day Adventists, who follow a plant-based diet and prioritize faith-based living practices that promote longevity.

 

[pbmdel]

Oh baby!!!
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Wow...looks tasty, and filling!...assume you saw my reply above about the Zones.

 

[gipper]

Wow...looks tasty, and filling!...assume you saw my reply above about the Zones.

That’s fine, but I’m not buying it.

Here are a couple books for you…

 

[MisterBeale]

It’s difficult to eat healthy in the US, because our food supply is contaminated. Going vegan hardly means eating healthy when those plants you eat are covered with herbicides and pesticides, and genetically modified. Too say nothing of the high levels of Oxylates found in many of those so called superfoods.

Many Americans like their doctors, know almost nothing about eating a healthy diet.

Prior to 1900 in the US, heart disease and cancer were almost unheard of. Something caused this.

I noticed when I did my anthro work at my first school, that traditional indigenous populations nearly always had perfect teeth in what remains of them, and in our fossil record. Nor did humans in the past ever need optical care.

It was years later that I discovered the Weston A. Price recommendations, and I looked into the original work. After my disability and economic position in society, I had absolutely NO money for braces for my kid. So I looked into this to prevent him from ever needing complicated or expensive dental work. (Preventing vision deterioration is another matter. In a high tech society with screens and reading being necessary for success, some folks are just GOING to have their eyesight degenerate.)


I found that it appeared to prevent many common ailments, along with preventing crooked teeth and malformed skeletal structures. I used this research to raise my kid.


What a shock? While I was not surprised that he never needed braces or expensive dental work. . . what really took me by surprise, something I had not counted on, is that his dentist told him that he would not need to have his wisdom teeth removed. . . there was plenty of space for them. He never broke a bone or had any major injuries, even though he played varsity ball.

Everyone in my family and his mother's family had our wisdom teeth out. . . so I can only conclude it had to be the diet he was raised on, and not genetics.

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[pbmdel]

That’s fine, but I’m not buying it.

Here are a couple books for you…
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When I said in a previous post about reading five books books on healthy eating, I left out a sixth...the 500 page The Great Plant-Based Con by British author Ja yne Buxton released in 2022. To her credit, she says she is neither anti-plant nor anti-vegan...but calls to take an honest look at the facts about human diets, and their effect on the environment. One reviewer says it is shocking and eye-opening, outlining everything you need to know to make more informed decisions about the food you choose to eat.

 

[pbmdel]

I noticed when I did my anthro work at my first school, that traditional indigenous populations nearly always had perfect teeth in what remains of them, and in our fossil record. Nor did humans in the past ever need optical care.

It was years later that I discovered the Weston A. Price recommendations, and I looked into the original work. After my disability and economic position in society, I had absolutely NO money for braces for my kid. So I looked into this to prevent him from ever needing complicated or expensive dental work. (Preventing vision deterioration is another matter. In a high tech society with screens and reading being necessary for success, some folks are just GOING to have their eyesight degenerate.)


I found that it appeared to prevent many common ailments, along with preventing crooked teeth and malformed skeletal structures. I used this research to raise my kid.


What a shock? While I was not surprised that he never needed braces or expensive dental work. . . what really took me by surprise, something I had not counted on, is that his dentist told him that he would not need to have his wisdom teeth removed. . . there was plenty of space for them. He never broke a bone or had any major injuries, even though he played varsity ball.

Everyone in my family and his mother's family had our wisdom teeth out. . . so I can only conclude it had to be the diet he was raised on, and not genetics.

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https://healthwyze.org/archive/nutrition_and_physical_degeneration_doctor_weston_a_price.pdf

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11 Principles Overview

These are “bite-size” versions of each of our 11 principles. Click on each photo to learn more! 11 Principles Logo — Michelle Bielovitz. Photo Credit — Sandrine Perez

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Looks terrific to me...pretty close to my own regimen...not 100% vegan.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Unkotare]

4pm to 6am isn’t “fasting,” it’s going to bed.

 

[Woodznutz]

The remarkable thing to me is how many cultures dictate diets that are terrible, according to all the experts. When I was in Vietnam, the typical diet was RICE, rice, rice, then maybe a piece of fish one day a week. And they seemed to be quite healthy.

My personal favorite bit of nonsense is bottled water. People carry water around as though they will faint if they don't get to take a sip every 5 minutes. This is total nonsense. No generation in the history of the world has drunk water like this, and there is NOTHING to indicate that it is healthy. Mass neurosis. I have never in my life taken a drink of water for any reason other than that I was thirsty. I was a runner for 35 years, and never drank an ounce in advance to prevent dehydration. Totally unnecessary.

Agreed. Your body/kidneys are great hydration managers. The exception is if you have bad stuff in your body that needs to be flushed out or if you sweat a lot.

 

[Woodznutz]

4pm to 6am isn’t “fasting,” it’s going to bed.

So, breakfast isn't really break fast?

Anyway, the practice is so misused that it has lost it's true meaning anyway.

 

[Woodznutz]

I noticed when I did my anthro work at my first school, that traditional indigenous populations nearly always had perfect teeth in what remains of them, and in our fossil record. Nor did humans in the past ever need optical care.

It was years later that I discovered the Weston A. Price recommendations, and I looked into the original work. After my disability and economic position in society, I had absolutely NO money for braces for my kid. So I looked into this to prevent him from ever needing complicated or expensive dental work. (Preventing vision deterioration is another matter. In a high tech society with screens and reading being necessary for success, some folks are just GOING to have their eyesight degenerate.)


I found that it appeared to prevent many common ailments, along with preventing crooked teeth and malformed skeletal structures. I used this research to raise my kid.


What a shock? While I was not surprised that he never needed braces or expensive dental work. . . what really took me by surprise, something I had not counted on, is that his dentist told him that he would not need to have his wisdom teeth removed. . . there was plenty of space for them. He never broke a bone or had any major injuries, even though he played varsity ball.

Everyone in my family and his mother's family had our wisdom teeth out. . . so I can only conclude it had to be the diet he was raised on, and not genetics.

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https://healthwyze.org/archive/nutrition_and_physical_degeneration_doctor_weston_a_price.pdf

Price Nutrition& Physical Degeneration : Weston A. Price : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

For nearly 10 years, Weston Price and his wife traveled around the world in search of the secret to health. Instead of looking at people afflicted with disease...

archive.org

View attachment 1068105View attachment 1068107

11 Principles Overview

These are “bite-size” versions of each of our 11 principles. Click on each photo to learn more! 11 Principles Logo — Michelle Bielovitz. Photo Credit — Sandrine Perez

www.westonaprice.org

We always had abundant dairy products in our diet. I and my brother and sister had good jawbone development and thus kept out wisdom teeth. However, that didn't prevent us from getting cavities. Our oral hygiene was terrible as was common in my generation.