Why do the U.S. support Ukraine which has Nazi laws?

[Dissident]

Russia has NO RIGHT and NO BUSINESS invading Ukraine, based on the racial groups living there.

You make me repeat the same things again and again
Please read below.

The Russian military operation in Ukraine is a necessary action because the Ukrainian rulers always make territorial claims to the Russian Crimean Peninsula where ethnic Russians amount to 67.9% of population.
At the same time, Ukraine intensively armed itself, constantly declared its plans to join NATO etc. The Russian government many times tried to persuade the Ukrainian rulers to remain nonaligned, to let Crimea stay in Russia etc. But Ukraine continued to arm itself etc.
At a certain point of time the Russian government decided that the actions of the Ukrainian rulers reached a dangerous point and very soon the situation could become even more dangerous. And then, the Russian government decided to start a military operation against Ukraine.

We teach English in the US as the primary language because it is our national language.

Does that make us all Nazis?

You make me repeat the same things again and again

The thread Aren't these Ukrainian laws the Nazi ones? doesn't deal with the problem of teaching a national language in Ukraine – their national language is the Ukrainian.

Under the above mentioned Ukrainian laws, different ethnic groups have different rights in Ukraine - for example, ethnic Crimean Tatars have more rights to use their native language – the Tatar language – during the education; ethnic Hungarians have less rights than Crimean Tatars to use their native language – the Hungarian – during the education; and ethnic Russians have less rights to use their native language – the Russian - than Hungarians.

Aren’t the laws, which divide citizens according to their ethnic origin into categories having different rights, the Nazi laws?

 

[Confederate Soldier]

You make me repeat the same things again and again
Please read below.



You make me repeat the same things again and again

The thread Aren't these Ukrainian laws the Nazi ones? doesn't deal with the problem of teaching a national language in Ukraine – their national language is the Ukrainian.

Under the above mentioned Ukrainian laws, different ethnic groups have different rights in Ukraine - for example, ethnic Crimean Tatars have more rights to use their native language – the Tatar language – during the education; ethnic Hungarians have less rights than Crimean Tatars to use their native language – the Hungarian – during the education; and ethnic Russians have less rights to use their native language – the Russian - than Hungarians.

Aren’t the laws, which divide citizens according to their ethnic origin into categories having different rights, the Nazi laws?

Those are not territorial claims, they ARE Ukrainian. And you bring up race again, nazi.

 

[ESay]

Aren’t the laws, which divide citizens according to their ethnic origin into categories having different rights, the Nazi laws?

The same exists in the US. Ever heard of affirmative action? The US is also a Nazi nation, obviously.

 

[Richard-H]

No, the Romans liked the wealthy elite because they considered them superior people.
Just like white supremacists consider themselves to be superior.
All people who are wealthy and successful tend to fool themselves into believing they deserve it some how.
But we should know better, and we should be more egalitarian than the fascists.
Lots of naive people just focus on the nationalism of fascist, but nationalism is just a false front.
The reality is that nationalism is used to whip up the common cause with the poor, but in reality the wealthy elite do not at all care about the poor or the nation, and are just out for their own profits.

According to your definition (and ONLY your definition) every country in the world (except for your precious Russia) has been and is a 'Nazi' country.

No country has ever achieved real or even legal egalitarianism.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You make me repeat the same things again and again
Please read below.



You make me repeat the same things again and again

The thread Aren't these Ukrainian laws the Nazi ones? doesn't deal with the problem of teaching a national language in Ukraine – their national language is the Ukrainian.

Under the above mentioned Ukrainian laws, different ethnic groups have different rights in Ukraine - for example, ethnic Crimean Tatars have more rights to use their native language – the Tatar language – during the education; ethnic Hungarians have less rights than Crimean Tatars to use their native language – the Hungarian – during the education; and ethnic Russians have less rights to use their native language – the Russian - than Hungarians.

Aren’t the laws, which divide citizens according to their ethnic origin into categories having different rights, the Nazi laws?

Got any specifics or are pissing down our backs and telling us it is raining?

Ukraine is really Nazi with a Jewish President and a Jewish Defense Minister.

Thank you for you contribution, comrade!

 

[Soupnazi630]

As I have said a dozen times, the treaties were private, not public.

No such thing.

No treaties no violation

 

[Soupnazi630]

I am saying the US ambassador Glasspie gave Iraq permission to punish Kuwait for oil theft and treaty violations.
But actually, Kuwait is populated by ethnic Iraqis, and the emir is a Bedouin whose dynasty was illegally established around the 1890s by a British invasion.

No such permission was ever given.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Anyone who thinks there has ever been a Marxist nations has to be on drugs.

Wrong anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool and a liar.

 

[Dissident]

The same (legislation) exists in the US. Ever heard of affirmative action? The US is also a Nazi nation, obviously.

If you know any US laws, which divide US citizens according to their ethnic origin into categories, some of which have more rights and others have less rights, please tell the titles of these US laws and tell how they divide US citizens into these categories.

I personally don’t know such US laws, but I know such Ukrainian laws and I can tell the titles of these Ukrainian laws - the Ukrainian Law on Indigenous Peoples and Law on Secondary Education; please read the first post of the thread Aren't these Ukrainian laws the Nazi ones?

 

[Dissident]

Got any specifics or are pissing down our backs and telling us it is raining?

Ukraine is really Nazi with a Jewish President and a Jewish Defense Minister.

Thank you for you contribution, comrade!

It doesn’t matter for me that the Ukrainian president is a half-Jew; it matters for me what kind of laws Ukraine has.

And please answer the question below:
Aren’t the laws, which divide citizens according to their ethnic origin into categories, some of which have more rights and others have less rights, the Nazi laws?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It doesn’t matter for me that the Ukrainian president is a half-Jew; it matters for me what kind of laws Ukraine has.

And please answer the question below:
Aren’t the laws, which divide citizens according to their ethnic origin into categories, some of which have more rights and others have less rights, the Nazi laws?

What's a half Jew? Is he Jewish from the waist up or waist down? Left side or right side?

Do we provide instruction in Swahili for immigrants from Africa? No. Is that Nazism? Again, no.

Bot!

 

[Sunsettommy]

What's a half Jew? Is he Jewish from the waist up or waist down? Left side or right side?

Do we provide instruction in Swahili for immigrants from Africa? No. Is that Nazism? Again, no.

Bot!

Wife be Jewish and Husband be a gentile is what he probably meant?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Wife be Jewish and Husband be a gentile is what he probably meant?

It's like being pregnant! You either are a Jew or you are not. His entire family is Jewish.

 

[Dissident]

Those are not territorial claims, they (the Crimean Peninsula and its inhabitants) ARE Ukrainian.

To put it more exactly, the Crimean Peninsula was Ukrainian for 60 years after it had been passed by the Soviet government from the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in 1954; although in the 1950s ethnic Russians amounted to 71.4% of Crimean population and ethnic Ukrainian only to 22.3%; please see Demographics of Crimea.
Before that, for 171 years – after Crimea had lost its independence in 1783 – it wasn’t Ukrainian, e.g. it wasn’t a part of Ukrainian Hetmanate in the 18th century; at first, Crimea was a part of the Russian Empire and then a part of the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic – till 1954.

And please answer the question below, too
Aren’t the laws, which divide citizens according to their ethnic origin into categories, some of which have more rights and others have less rights, the Nazi laws?

 

[Dissident]

"Aren’t the laws, which divide citizens according to their ethnic origin into categories, some of which have more rights and others have less rights, the Nazi laws?"

Do we provide instruction in Swahili for immigrants from Africa? No. Is that Nazism? Again, no.

You haven’t answered my question - I can change its color.
Aren’t the laws, which divide CITIZENS according to their ethnic origin into categories, some of which have more rights and others have less rights, the Nazi laws?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

In the middle of April, I published an article which dealt with the question whether some Ukrainian laws are the Nazi ones (see here).
This article was discussed on USMB (see here) and nobody could disprove that these laws are the Nazi ones, indeed.

It’s an obvious fact that, for example, ethnic Crimean Tatars - according to these laws - are “first-rate” citizens of Ukraine and have more rights; ethnic Hungarians are “second-rate” citizens and have less rights than Crimean Tatars; and ethnic Russians are “third-rate” citizens and have less rights than Hungarians.

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It’s another obvious fact, that Ukrainian rulers always make territorial claims to the Russian Crimean Peninsula, where ethnic Russians amount to 67.9% of population (see here).
It means that the Ukrainian rulers want to turn 67.9% of Crimean population into citizens of the “third-rate”!

At the same time, Ukraine intensively armed itself, constantly declared its plans to join NATO etc. The Russian government many times tried to persuade the Ukrainian rulers to remain nonaligned, to let Crimea stay in Russia etc. But Ukraine continued to arm itself etc.

At a certain point of time the Russian government decided that the actions of the Ukrainian rulers reached a dangerous point and very soon the situation could become even more dangerous. And then, the Russian government decided to start a military operation against Ukraine.

But the U.S. supported and support all Ukrainian actions including its claims to the Crimean Peninsula – despite of the Nazi laws in Ukraine.
It means that the U.S. support, inter alia, the Ukrainian plan to turn 67.9% of Crimean population into citizens of the “third-rate”!

The question naturally arises – Why do the U.S. support such a country as Ukraine?

My opinion is that it doesn’t matter for the U.S. what kind of a country Ukraine is. The U.S. want to reduce Russian influence in Europe; the U.S. want to sell their liquefied gas in Europe etc.
Therefore, in my opinion, the U.S. are ready to support even Nazis if these Nazis are hostile towards Russia.

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Another rightwing troll for Putin.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

To put it more exactly, the Crimean Peninsula was Ukrainian for 60 years after it had been passed by the Soviet government from the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in 1954; although in the 1950s ethnic Russians amounted to 71.4% of Crimean population and ethnic Ukrainian only to 22.3%; please see Demographics of Crimea.
Before that, for 171 years – after Crimea had lost its independence in 1783 – it wasn’t Ukrainian, e.g. it wasn’t a part of Ukrainian Hetmanate in the 18th century; at first, Crimea was a part of the Russian Empire and then a part of the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic – till 1954.

And please answer the question below, too
Aren’t the laws, which divide citizens according to their ethnic origin into categories, some of which have more rights and others have less rights, the Nazi laws?

I guess you have no clue what Nazism is! Russia discriminates against anyone who is not a Great Russian, but you knew that, didn't you? Are the Russians Nazis?

We don't teach Swahili for African immigrants. We don't teach Arabic for Muslim immigrants from Arab countries or nonArab countries either. We don't teach Spanish to Puerto Ricans. We don't teach Spanish only classes to people immigrating legally or illegally from Mexico? We don't teach Haitian immigrants Creole.

I guess we are Nazis one and all!

 

[Dissident]

I guess you ...

You haven’t still answered my question.
Should I change its color again?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You haven’t still answered my question.
Should I change its color again?

That English to Russian translation software you use must be on the fritz!

I answered you damned stupid question. No, it is not Nazi any more than the Russians, the US, and hundreds of other countries are Nazis.

Take that is shove it up your bot data port!

 

[Dissident]

No, it is not Nazi...

OK, I have understood your answer.

The laws, which divide citizens according to their ethnic origin into categories, some of which have more rights and others have less rights, aren’t Nazi laws, in your opinion.

And I have two further questions to you:

How would you personally call such laws then? Are these laws, for example, democratic, in your opinion?

And the second question:
Would you like to be a citizen of a country where citizens according to their ethnic origin are divided by laws into categories, some of which have more rights and others have less rights? Especially, if you personally only because of your ethnic origin would have less rights than other citizens?