Why do the U.S. support Ukraine which has Nazi laws?

[Dissident]

... there are no laws in Ukraine today that discriminate against any groups because of ethnic origins.

You make me repeat what I have already said about the Ukrainian Law on Indigenous Peoples and Law on Secondary Education.
Please read the text below.

Dissident said:
Under the Ukrainian laws, different ethnic groups have different rights in Ukraine - for example, ethnic Crimean Tatars have more rights to use their native language – the Tatar language – during the education in public schools; ethnic Hungarians have less rights than Crimean Tatars to use their native language – the Hungarian – during the education in public schools; and ethnic Russians have less rights to use their native language – the Russian - than Hungarians.

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[toomuchtime_]

You make me repeat what I have already said about the Ukrainian Law on Indigenous Peoples and Law on Secondary Education.
Please read the text below.


Why do the U.S. support Ukraine which has Nazi laws?

No matter how many times you repeat it, this remains a lie.

 

[AntonToo]

The United States is provoking a food crisis in Ukraine by depriving it of grain reserves - Zakharova

Well, the weapons doesn't come for free...

Russians are blowing up, stealing, interfering with export of Ukranian grain, while America is spending billions to deal with resulting shortages.

The upside-down batshit crazy propaganda you are posting here is just sick.

 

[AntonToo]

A runaway Nazi tried to pretend to be a mother of two children Yulia Paevskaya (call sign Tyra) was caught when she tried to escape from Azovstal in a medical service car. She claimed to be a mother of two children and injured.
However, the children who were with her said that this Nazi shot their parents and threatened to kill them. Now she is waiting for harsh sentence

Idiot, wtf makes you think she is a Nazi?

Russian propaganda saying she is?

 

[Ringo]

According to the updated information of the Donetsk administration, as a result of the shelling of the central part of the city at school No. 22, two were killed and 12 wounded, two of them in serious condition. There was one fatality at School No. 5. In addition, 1 civilian was killed in the shelling of Dynamic street, Budennovsky district of Donetsk, another 1 - at the intersection of General Antonov Street and 50th anniversary of the USSR street.
Send more weapons to the Ukrainian fascists. Fascists of all countries, unite!

 

[Ringo]

Idiot, wtf makes you think she is a Nazi?
Russian propaganda saying she is?

Piece of shit, do you think if you call her not a nazi, but a "freedom fighter", as all the bloody scum of the world are usually called in the USA, she will be allowed to kill people?

 

[AntonToo]

Piece of shit, do you think if you call her not a nazi, but a "freedom fighter", as all the bloody scum of the world are usually called in the USA, she will be allowed to kill people?

Moron, you called her Nazi. I'm asking WHY.

If you can't answer, then that's again proof you are full of shit.

You don't have to be a Nazi to love your country and contribute to fight against fascist invaders that Russians are in this war.

 

[AntonToo]

According to the updated information of the Donetsk administration, as a result of the shelling of the central part of the city at school No. 22, two were killed and 12 wounded, two of them in serious condition. There was one fatality at School No. 5. In addition, 1 civilian was killed in the shelling of Dynamic street, Budennovsky district of Donetsk, another 1 - at the intersection of General Antonov Street and 50th anniversary of the USSR street.
Send more weapons to the Ukrainian fascists. Fascists of all countries, unite!

Half of Ukraine looks like that from Russian strikes that killed thousands of civilians by now, what the fuck is your point?

 

[Dissident]

... this remains a lie.

In that case, I would like to ask YOU to tell the truth to us.

Please read the Article 5 of the Ukrainian Law on Secondary Education - see the official website of the Ukrainian Parliament.

And please tell us whether different ethnic groups have equal rights in the sphere in education in public schools in Ukraine or they haven't?

 

[Ringo]

MOSCOW, May 31 — RIA Novosti. The Russian military found a van with the mined corpses of Ukrainian nationalists in the basements of the Mariupol Azovstal plant, the Defense Ministry regards this as an attempt of provocation by Kiev, the official representative of the department Igor Konashenkov said.
"According to the results of interrogations of captured Azov militants, it was established that the mining of bodies was carried out on direct instructions from Kiev. The purpose of the provocation is to accuse Russia of deliberately destroying the remains of the bodies and prevent their removal for transfer to relatives in order to save the political "reputation" of the Kiev regime and Zelensky personally," the major general said.
He noted that the van's cooling system was not working. 152 bodies of dead nationalists and servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are stored in it.
Konashenkov clarified that during the survey, Russian sappers found four mines, and the combined mass of explosives in them was sufficient to destroy all the remaining remains.
The Russian side plans to transfer the bodies to representatives of Ukraine.
According to the representative of the Ministry of Defense, the command of the Azov before the surrender publicly appealed to Zelensky with a request to take the dead so that families could bury them on the territory controlled by the Kiev regime, but no requests were received by the department.
At the time of the proclamation of the DPR in 2014, Mariupol, with a population of about 450 thousand people, was the second city of the republic after Donetsk, but in June of the same year, Ukrainian security forces recaptured it.
In May 2022, the Mariupol metallurgical plant "Azovstal" was surrounded — the underground structures of the enterprise, in which the Ukrainian military and militants of the Azov regiment were hiding (against whom criminal cases were initiated in Russia), came under the control of the Russian Armed Forces.
In total, according to the Ministry of Defense, since May 16, more than 2,4 thousand nationalists and Ukrainian military have laid down their arms and surrendered, who were blocked on the territory of the plant for about a month.

 

[Ringo]

Half of Ukraine looks like that from Russian strikes that killed thousands of civilians by now, what the fuck is your point?

Hypocritical rat, during the liberation of France from nazism, about 50 thousand French civilians died under allied bombs, when are you going to ask questions and be indignant about this? Never? Shitty Pharisee.

 

[AntonToo]

Hypocritical rat, during the liberation of France from nazism, about 50 thousand French civilians died under allied bombs, when are you going to ask questions and be indignant about this? Never? Shitty Pharisee.

Moron, France was invaded by Germans. That's who it was liberated from.

Ukraine is being invaded by Russians. That's who is killing Ukranians in their land. That's who it needs to be liberated from.

You are the fascist imperial invaders here, don't you fucking get it?

Open your eyes dupe, look in the mirror and stop being the monster you despise.

 

[Ringo]

Ukraine is being invaded by Russians.

Cretin, Ukraine was captured by the nazis with the support of the United States, now liberation from nazi scum and its masters is taking place.

 

[toomuchtime_]

In that case, I would like to ask YOU to tell the truth to us.

Please read the Article 5 of the Ukrainian Law on Secondary Education - see the official website of the Ukrainian Parliament.

And please tell us whether different ethnic groups have equal rights in the sphere in education in public schools in Ukraine or they haven't?

Once again, Ukraine is a liberal democracy and there is no discrimination on the basis of ethnicity. Putin has taken Russia down the rabbit hole with him. There is no Nazi threat, there was no genocide in Donbas, there was no NATO or US threat. The notion that Russia invaded Ukraine for any reason other than imperialism is so ludicrous you have to give up all contact with reality to believe it. There simply is no rational defense for the horror Russia is perpetrating in Ukraine.

 

[Ringo]

Once again, Ukraine is a liberal democracy and there is no discrimination on the basis of ethnicity.

You either lie like a scoundrel, or you tell a lie like a fool. In any case, you're not a good person.

 

[AntonToo]

Cretin, Ukraine was captured by the nazis with the support of the United States, now liberation from nazi scum and its masters is taking place.

WHO? Who are these Nazis? Ukraine's dully elected President Zelensky? A jew who's uncles were killed by Nazis in World War II?

Maybe a handful Azov millitary members, who are not part of the civilian government?

20% of Kiev are ethnic Russians, half the people speak Russian and freely so. No one getting rounded up, no apartheid, no mass graves untill Russians get around to "de-nazifying" hand-tied Ukranians with bullets to their heads.

So what fucking Nazis? What were those suppposed Ukrainian Nazis so busy doing that they just could not get around to doing Nazi things?

You call anyone fighting against Russian invaders as Nazis, while YOU support this fascist atrocity.

Germany invaded Poland without a declaration of war, under pretenses of protecting German speakers in a separatist area of Danzig. Remind you of anything?

After WWII it took Germans DECADES to realize the monsters that they were and the full guilt of what they have done. Thats probably about how long brainwashed Russian tools like you will keep washing bloody Russian hands.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You either lie like a scoundrel, or you tell a lie like a fool. In any case, you're not a good person.

Don't be a fool. All the lies are coming from Putin. Nearly all countries, including Russia, have neo nazis, Russia faced no external threats from either NATO or the US. There was no genocide in Donbas. Russia is a fascist state and Ukraine is a liberal democracy. Putin invaded Ukraine because without its eastern European vassal states, Russia simply wasn't the country Putin wanted it to be. Putin with his lies and wars of aggression is leading Russia down the same dark path Hitler led Germany. Do you really want to be part of that?

 

[para bellum]

Cretin, Ukraine was captured by the nazis with the support of the United States, now liberation from nazi scum and its masters is taking place.

Yes, I'm sure Ukrainians are thrilled to be buried under the rubble of their own homes...

 

[Ringo]

Yes, I'm sure Ukrainians are thrilled to be buried under the rubble of their own homes...

Who cares! Ukraine must fight Russia to the last ukrainian, in the interests of the owners from the West.
You see, if your financial capitalist masters were "honest nazis" like the German nazis, they would honestly declare "In order for us to live, the russians must die" as germans on the photo below did, and I am sure if things go badly for them, then this slogan will be proclaimed again and will be implemented as far as possible.
However, russophobic methods are already being used, the Western population is well prepared for them by decades of anti-Soviet propaganda

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[AntonToo]

Who cares! Ukraine must fight Russia to the last ukrainian, in the interests of the owners from the West.

You are so brainwashed you can't even IMAGINE Ukranians fighting for their own independance, for their own sovernity, for their own land against the Russian invaders. Can't even imagine someone not wanting to live under Putin's boot. Thats how far you are gone.

There is only one reason the west is helping Ukraine fight Russians - UKRAINE ASKED FOR IT. If you weren't so stupid and ignorant you'd know that.