Oh, that's right, you interpret any part of the Law that you find inconvenient as figurative and substitute your own self-serving interpretation. You only take as literal the parts you don't find too difficult, like the prohibition against eating bats.
Zone1 why do some Protestants think that only they are Christians and the Catholics are not?
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You have made yourself the focus of attention, all beaten up, robbed blind, and left on the side of the road to die.
Pilate executed Jesus for sedition. Thats the truth. When will you acknowledge this? Never? Then just run along.
I showed you in Scripture where that idea is false, and you ignored it. Not my problem, but you are simply wrong. That usually happens when you ignore Scripture.
You could drive a truck through those 'what if's
Oh thats rich!
Like when you ignore the law that prohibits idolatry? Human sacrifice? Eating the 'flesh'of unclean creatures?
Okey dokey.
Deal with the Scripture.
That doesn’t show me where you got your notion about what Jesus taught.
More deflection. Deal with the Scripture.
Deal with yourself. You have missed the mark, failed "the test", died and descended into hell. Thats your reality.
You will never convince me that the Law of God was rendered null and void by Jesus for those who commit idolatry, practice human sacrifice, lie their asses off, and religiously desecrate the teachings of Jesus, which is the Actual Body of Christ, WORDS that he received from God like bread from heaven that became his "flesh".
Given for the life of the world. Eternal life being the promise of God to everyone who fulfills the Laws demands.
You are wasting precious time. Your head is all fucked up. No one can help anyone who will not help themselves. So get out of your deathbed stand upright and walk like a man who reflects the image and likeness of a Holy God
Or you can continue to slowly disintegrate into nothingness with the self negating multiplicity that ate you whole.
It's a choice that you must make alone. A choice between a blessing or a curse, a choice between life and death.
So either smarten up or just **** off.
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This life is the closest I'm ever going to get to hell.
Where again did I attempt to convince you the Law is null and void? I did not do so. In fact, it will judge and condemn those who refuse Christ.
Now, I do notice that you do not understand what it means when the Bible says that the Word became flesh. Do I need to educate you in that as well? It would seem so. Here's a hint, obviously you ignore the part where it says the Word dwelt among us. You have to ignore so much of Scripture to maintain your beliefs.
Which cannot include yourself as you have broken the law, and if you are guilty of one part of the Law, you are guilty of the entire Law. If you do not accept the propitiation for sin, you will be held guilty.
Now, who is to inherit eternal life?
- John 3:16: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life."
- Romans 8:16-17: "The Spirit himself confirms to our spirit that we are children of God, And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ."
- Ephesians 1:11: "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who works all things after the counsel of his own will."
- John 10:28: "I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand."
- 1 Peter 1:3-4: "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4: into an inheritance imperishable and undefiled and unfading, reserved in heaven for you"
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Looks like once again, your belief runs square into Scripture itself.
Since He lives in me, I already do.
You really shouldn't speak of of God's Spirit like that.
Feel free to run away yet again after I have destroyed your narratives, again.
Exactly. After your life in hell on earth living in denial of reality which contradicts your irrational beliefs day and night like a consuming fire that will never go out, only destruction awaits. Unless you repent. Thats the truth.
If I had not come and spoken with you, you would not be guilty of sin. Now there is no longer any excuse for your sin and for you to continue to brazenly practice idolatry, desecrate the teachings of Jesus, and lie in the name of God is to make sinfulness and all its known and unknown consequences a conscious and deliberate choice.
The Word of God reveals sin to me, you do not. The Word of God brings me to repentance, you do not.
Repent for what?
I thought the Law of God was over. If so there would be no such thing as sin. But here you are sinning in public.
And you are right,
Its your choice alone to either repent for your sins or pretend that you are living in a state of grace while sinning.
Derp.
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Exactly my point, just as it is my point a truck could be driven through your point that it wasn't in the earliest manuscripts. We can't know for certain. Remember, John concludes his Gospel with these words: There are also many other things that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written.
Another likely scenario is that someone who was there when Jesus was challenged with the woman who committed adultery, and thought it was an account worthy of being included in John's book.
I can come up with all kinds of possibilities about nearly everything. It's a hobby. That means if I come up with a hundred possibilities, one will be right. Just keep in mind that means ninety-nine will be wrong.
What did Jesus do that was seditious?
Not from anything I have read. Can you share what you are reading?
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Much of Christianity defines repentance as a change of heart and mind about what one is doing. One of the early Saints, wrote that the first time one gives into an act of sin, one feels regret and guilt. However, if one keeps on committing this sin, the regret and guilt subside. The end result: One feels compelled to continue in this sin--it becomes a necessity or a form of addiction--difficult, if not impossible, to give up.
The basic commands are the Noachide Laws and the Ten Commandments. Jews (and most likely others) came up with hundreds of more centered around how one properly keeps the Ten. These are all centered around obedience (discerning the will of God and following it).
It seems to me that faith is at the center of most disputes/arguments surrounding God. For atheists, faith means believing something without any evidence. For some non-Catholic Christian denominations it means simply trust in Jesus and salvation is yours. For Catholics faith is obedience to God. Faith in God's laws and His ways opens the way to God's Kingdom which is eternal. Jesus taught us to discern the will of God and follow it. His last words (if he spoke them in Aramaic) were a call to obedience. It is when these Aramaic words are translated into Greek that they can be taken as a debt paid in full.
Don't take me wrong. I believe that all along Jesus was teaching God takes on the burden of the sins of mankind (note his use of present tense when he said, "Your sins are forgiven."). I believe Jesus gave his own blood so all would know this was a binding covenant/testament between God and man. (Earlier Covenants were also verified/confirmed by the shedding of blood.) It's true that I, myself, don't attach as much credence that the Father had to punish the Son via crucifixion in the name of justice.
First read it in one of the many books by Bart Ehrman, can't be more specific than that. Google "John 8:7 not in original texts". I think you'll find there is no definitive answer.
Take it up with Scripture. From Romans 7:
1: Do you not know, brothers and sisters—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law has authority over someone only as long as that person lives?
2: For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him.
3: So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man.
4: So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God.
5: For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death.
6: But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
Your argument is not with me, but with the Word of God. I know you probably have some twisted argument that you will give, complete with a bunch of stuff that's not in there and a lot of re-imagining definitions of words, thinking you can make this passage say the exact opposite of what it plainly says, but you're not arguing with me, you're arguing with the Word.
The Law is still there and will serve as judge and condemner of those who refuse the new covenant, but we who have shared in Christ's death are released from it. We have a new way of serving, a new relationship with God. It is obvious that you do NOT have that relationship as you would say much, much different things if you did. It is both sacred and holy, and those who have it know it.
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