Why do Republicans consider themselves "patriotic"?

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Make up your mind, do you want the product of my labors or not? You want my distribution hold your hands out and take it.

I don't want shit from you, if do not want to pay taxes then don't pay them, no skin off my nose but for god's sake quit whining and bitching about it like your life is just ruined every April 15th. If you are actually upper middle class and still cannot make ends meet because you had to pay taxes then cut your expenses and start living within your means like the rest of us.

Do you actually pay Federal Income tax, Occupied? If so what tax bracket are you in? Telling someone who is being forced at the point of a gun (because let's face it...if you don't pay your taxes people with guns eventually come and put you in prison) to hand over a large percentage of the money they have earned so that a bloated and inefficient government can waste it to shut up and stop complaining leads me to believe that you aren't giving up YOUR hard earned money in the same way!

I do not put my personal finances up for discussion because it's a stupid move on a board like this, excuse me while I demonstrate that tactical error to the whiner.

 

[RKMBrown]

I'm not the one who brought up pissing on people as part of some degradation fantasy. My mind does not even go there you sicko.

Make up your mind, do you want the product of my labors or not? You want my distribution hold your hands out and take it.

I don't want shit from you, if do not want to pay taxes then don't pay them, no skin off my nose but for god's sake quit whining and bitching about it like your life is just ruined every April 15th. If you are actually upper middle class and still cannot make ends meet because you had to pay taxes then cut your expenses and start living within your means like the rest of us.

In spite of having over 60% of my labor taken as taxes I'm doing just effing fine, no thanks to lazy ass holes like you.

 

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Make up your mind, do you want the product of my labors or not? You want my distribution hold your hands out and take it.

I don't want shit from you, if do not want to pay taxes then don't pay them, no skin off my nose but for god's sake quit whining and bitching about it like your life is just ruined every April 15th. If you are actually upper middle class and still cannot make ends meet because you had to pay taxes then cut your expenses and start living within your means like the rest of us.

In spite of having over 60% of my labor taken as taxes I'm doing just effing fine, no thanks to lazy ass holes like you.

You should fire your accountant because he is not that good.

 

[RKMBrown]

I don't want shit from you, if do not want to pay taxes then don't pay them, no skin off my nose but for god's sake quit whining and bitching about it like your life is just ruined every April 15th. If you are actually upper middle class and still cannot make ends meet because you had to pay taxes then cut your expenses and start living within your means like the rest of us.

Do you actually pay Federal Income tax, Occupied? If so what tax bracket are you in? Telling someone who is being forced at the point of a gun (because let's face it...if you don't pay your taxes people with guns eventually come and put you in prison) to hand over a large percentage of the money they have earned so that a bloated and inefficient government can waste it to shut up and stop complaining leads me to believe that you aren't giving up YOUR hard earned money in the same way!

I do not put my personal finances up for discussion because it's a stupid move on a board like this, excuse me while I demonstrate that tactical error to the whiner.

You wouldn't know a tactic if it slapped you in the face. People like you are only good for eating the crumbs left by real men who pull your weight in life. You're a blight on this nation. You're nothing to me.

 

[RKMBrown]

I don't want shit from you, if do not want to pay taxes then don't pay them, no skin off my nose but for god's sake quit whining and bitching about it like your life is just ruined every April 15th. If you are actually upper middle class and still cannot make ends meet because you had to pay taxes then cut your expenses and start living within your means like the rest of us.

In spite of having over 60% of my labor taken as taxes I'm doing just effing fine, no thanks to lazy ass holes like you.

You should fire your accountant because he is not that good.

You have no clue. You probably don't even own a home. You are probably driving a car someone bought for you. I bet you don't even know what AMT stands for let alone have had to pay it. I'll bet you think SS is good deal for us all.

 

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Do you actually pay Federal Income tax, Occupied? If so what tax bracket are you in? Telling someone who is being forced at the point of a gun (because let's face it...if you don't pay your taxes people with guns eventually come and put you in prison) to hand over a large percentage of the money they have earned so that a bloated and inefficient government can waste it to shut up and stop complaining leads me to believe that you aren't giving up YOUR hard earned money in the same way!

I do not put my personal finances up for discussion because it's a stupid move on a board like this, excuse me while I demonstrate that tactical error to the whiner.

You wouldn't know a tactic if it slapped you in the face. People like you are only good for eating the crumbs left by real men who pull your weight in life. You're a blight on this nation. You're nothing to me.

You would drop dead if you had my workload you whiner. To sort of return to the topic at hand I've yet to see that you give a **** about this country at all, just a bunch of complaints about your pocketbook and the horrible burden of your seeming lack of deductions and bad choices of investment advisers/tax preparers. You live in a country that requires your payment of taxes, maybe instead of crying you should begin a search for a place that will make you king and pay taxes to you or something.

 

[RKMBrown]

I do not put my personal finances up for discussion because it's a stupid move on a board like this, excuse me while I demonstrate that tactical error to the whiner.

You wouldn't know a tactic if it slapped you in the face. People like you are only good for eating the crumbs left by real men who pull your weight in life. You're a blight on this nation. You're nothing to me.

You would drop dead if you had my workload you whiner. To sort of return to the topic at hand I've yet to see that you give a **** about this country at all, just a bunch of complaints about your pocketbook and the horrible burden of your seeming lack of deductions and bad choices of investment advisers/tax preparers. You live in a country that requires your payment of taxes, maybe instead of crying you should begin a search for a place that will make you king and pay taxes to you or something.

ROFL I've worked punks like you to the ground all my life. I can work a keyboard all day and beat the shit out of you, then I'll head out for a days work in the Texas sun taking care of my land and beat the shit out you doing that as well. I built my house by hand. Did you? I cleared my land by hand. Did you? I built software companies by hand. Did you?

 

[Dot Com]

The real "leftist extremists" have no pull whatsoever with this government, I have no idea who you are talking about and I suspect you do not either.

yep. Obama IS a moderate DESPITE what the rw spin machine is putting out. He has spent less money in recent history since the Korean War. He implemented a HC Plan DEVISED BY THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION (not a liberal bastion BTW ), and he attempted to restrain Wall St from further thievery but what came-out was so watered-down by Republicans & some Dem's as well so as to be ineffectual.

Anyone who believes either party works for them is a drone

Barack Obama had the most liberal voting record of any Senator before he started running for President. You calling him a "moderate" is laughable!

Why is it that none of you progressives will admit to BEING liberals? Is it because your policies have given that term such a negative connotation that nobody wants it attached to their name? No liberals this board...oh no...you're ALL moderates!

weak come back. I'm embarrassed for you. I'm referring to President Obama. What he "used to be" is irrelevant Skippy BTW- care to address any of the points I posted above? [MENTION=31215]Oldstyle[/MENTION]

 

[Harry Dresden]

Republicans again and again try to blast the left for what they consider "unpatriotic". And to do it, they need to make up the most ridiculous nonsense, like Democrats are working towards a "new world order" or Democrats want to "redistribute" the wealth.

They talk about liberty but engage in voter suppression.

They insist they love veterans yet cut food stamps for disabled veterans.

They complain the country is divided, yet they are 90% white.

They ignore the massive redistribution of wealth under Bush.

Worst of all, so many discuss "secession".

It seems their policies are designed to hurt as many Americans as possible. So many seem to have a real hatred for anyone not like them.

Read my signature line and you can feel the hate.

Neither side is patriotic. They insist on destroying this nation in their own unique way. So, what makes you think you are patriotic?

a "patriot" is not afraid to question those who tell him this is the way it will be,especially if they disagree with them.....Dean would not question the Democrats even if he disagreed with them...maybe Dean is a half-assed patriot since he only questions one side....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Yeah, the Republican brand needs some fixing. I love reading about the old time Republicans. Back when they were the thinking man's party and not the lowest common denominator party.

Today's Republican party is controlled by deep moneyed interests who do a great job of fleecing totally average people into their little swindle that promises wealth distribution for their voters as long as they vote for them. The promise of tax cuts trickling down from rich people to their own pockets is the greatest fleecing in modern American history. It's the basis of their entire economic platform: Vote for us and we'll invite you to the cool kids table. Except they never invite them. They just stoke their fears and their anger about "the government" as some great boogieman in their lives when the real loss of freedom they face is by turning their minds off and being prisoners to their own ignorance.

You don't have to tow the entire Democratic party platform to be a Democrat. But if you fall out of line on just one thing within the Republican platform, they treat you like you're the scum of the Earth. It's the single greatest difference between the parties, and the least attractive quality of today's GOP.

Today's Republican party is controlled by deep moneyed interests

and the Democrats are not?.....

You don't have to tow the entire Democratic party platform to be a Democrat

yea tell the far left ones like Dean that.....to them assholes if you dont like what i like...go **** yourself...those jerks are no different than the far right.....dont like what we like....eat shit....

 

[Harry Dresden]

You don't have to tow the entire Democratic party platform to be a Democrat. But if you fall out of line on just one thing within the Republican platform, they treat you like you're the scum of the Earth. It's the single greatest difference between the parties, and the least attractive quality of today's GOP.

And how come you can't see the Democratic Party doing the same thing you accuse Republicans of? If you challenge them, you're racist, bigoted, misogynistic, indifferent to the poor or hateful.

So ensconced within a "team first" mentality that you can't see the war of attrition happening within your own party lines. This is why there are more and more people becoming libertarians. The two parties are so alike in many ways, the differences are hard to notice anymore.

and the only people that cant see how alike they are ....are the ones with their heads up their parties ass...

 

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You wouldn't know a tactic if it slapped you in the face. People like you are only good for eating the crumbs left by real men who pull your weight in life. You're a blight on this nation. You're nothing to me.

You would drop dead if you had my workload you whiner. To sort of return to the topic at hand I've yet to see that you give a **** about this country at all, just a bunch of complaints about your pocketbook and the horrible burden of your seeming lack of deductions and bad choices of investment advisers/tax preparers. You live in a country that requires your payment of taxes, maybe instead of crying you should begin a search for a place that will make you king and pay taxes to you or something.

ROFL I've worked punks like you to the ground all my life. I can work a keyboard all day and beat the shit out of you, then I'll head out for a days work in the Texas sun taking care of my land and beat the shit out you doing that as well. I built my house by hand. Did you? I cleared my land by hand. Did you? I built software companies by hand. Did you?

I think you would be astounded at what I have accomplished but sadly you will never know just as I will never know if what you say is for real and you are not some trailer dwelling inbred talking big, in the end it does not matter. If I were to take your statements on faith it sounds as if you are somewhat industrious and independent which is wonderful but why are you so scared and angry? You have more than most and yet it just is not enough for you to be happy instead you seem to be focused on the money that got away rather than all the good things you have. You only go around this life one time, don't spend it bitching and dissatisfied while surrounded by abundance, that's the worst kind of waste and it makes you seem spoiled and selfish to me.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Easy question, do you agree with this gentleman?

No. Today, that would require allowing the personal ownership of nuclear weapons. Do you want that?

And you wonder why nobody takes you seriously.

i have to agree....i have known a few guys with virtual armories at their house yet not one said they wanted anything better than what they already had.....

 

[Peach]

Republicans again and again try to blast the left for what they consider "unpatriotic". And to do it, they need to make up the most ridiculous nonsense, like Democrats are working towards a "new world order" or Democrats want to "redistribute" the wealth.

They talk about liberty but engage in voter suppression.

They insist they love veterans yet cut food stamps for disabled veterans.

They complain the country is divided, yet they are 90% white.

They ignore the massive redistribution of wealth under Bush.

Worst of all, so many discuss "secession".

It seems their policies are designed to hurt as many Americans as possible. So many seem to have a real hatred for anyone not like them.

Read my signature line and you can feel the hate.

Us, they, them..........just more division.

 

[RKMBrown]

You would drop dead if you had my workload you whiner. To sort of return to the topic at hand I've yet to see that you give a **** about this country at all, just a bunch of complaints about your pocketbook and the horrible burden of your seeming lack of deductions and bad choices of investment advisers/tax preparers. You live in a country that requires your payment of taxes, maybe instead of crying you should begin a search for a place that will make you king and pay taxes to you or something.

ROFL I've worked punks like you to the ground all my life. I can work a keyboard all day and beat the shit out of you, then I'll head out for a days work in the Texas sun taking care of my land and beat the shit out you doing that as well. I built my house by hand. Did you? I cleared my land by hand. Did you? I built software companies by hand. Did you?

I think you would be astounded at what I have accomplished but sadly you will never know just as I will never know if what you say is for real and you are not some trailer dwelling inbred talking big, in the end it does not matter. If I were to take your statements on faith it sounds as if you are somewhat industrious and independent which is wonderful but why are you so scared and angry? You have more than most and yet it just is not enough for you to be happy instead you seem to be focused on the money that got away rather than all the good things you have. You only go around this life one time, don't spend it bitching and dissatisfied while surrounded by abundance, that's the worst kind of waste and it makes you seem spoiled and selfish to me.

Spoiled for defending my assets and my children's assets from the likes of you? Eff you ya socialist puke. GTFO me an my family. Go earn your own living and stop living off mine.

 

[Harry Dresden]

same chit different day

how many time can someone post about the same thing over and over and over and over

you see folks, we are just suppose to believe all these fairy tales, like how Republicans cut vets foods stamps, JUST BECAUSE the one who is mentally ill, SAY SO

oooooooooo, he throws out this Republicans are 91 % white.....how dare all those whites HAVE Representation, yet Democrats like to CROW they have 95% of the black vote, If I were a black person, I'd offended by this for they make it seem like, THEY OWN THEM and no matter what EVEN if they fail miserable they will still vote for us, they're our slaves

how many time can someone post about the same thing over and over and over and over

he has been doing it for at least 4 years now....everything has been debated 3-4 times and yet he will say no one debates him they just call him names.....after you have debated someone 3-4 times and he still brings up the same subjects ....whats left?....the guy is obsessed with anything Republican.....try asking him a question he doesnt want to answer....you get the same shit there too....."huh?.....what question?".....

 

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ROFL I've worked punks like you to the ground all my life. I can work a keyboard all day and beat the shit out of you, then I'll head out for a days work in the Texas sun taking care of my land and beat the shit out you doing that as well. I built my house by hand. Did you? I cleared my land by hand. Did you? I built software companies by hand. Did you?

I think you would be astounded at what I have accomplished but sadly you will never know just as I will never know if what you say is for real and you are not some trailer dwelling inbred talking big, in the end it does not matter. If I were to take your statements on faith it sounds as if you are somewhat industrious and independent which is wonderful but why are you so scared and angry? You have more than most and yet it just is not enough for you to be happy instead you seem to be focused on the money that got away rather than all the good things you have. You only go around this life one time, don't spend it bitching and dissatisfied while surrounded by abundance, that's the worst kind of waste and it makes you seem spoiled and selfish to me.

Spoiled for defending my assets and my children's assets from the likes of you? Eff you ya socialist puke. GTFO me an my family. Go earn your own living and stop living off mine.

Dude, I am not the United States government. I am not personally involved in any decisions made by the IRS or any other agency, state or local government with the power to tax your property or income, so quit acting as if I am personally responsible for your plight. Take responsibly for your decisions that left you with such a large tax obligation and do something about it. Christ, you people love to tell everyone to take responsibility for their actions but then you throw blame for your troubles around like a frigging maniac, grow up.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Yeah, the Republican brand needs some fixing. I love reading about the old time Republicans. Back when they were the thinking man's party and not the lowest common denominator party.

Today's Republican party is controlled by deep moneyed interests who do a great job of fleecing totally average people into their little swindle that promises wealth distribution for their voters as long as they vote for them. The promise of tax cuts trickling down from rich people to their own pockets is the greatest fleecing in modern American history. It's the basis of their entire economic platform: Vote for us and we'll invite you to the cool kids table. Except they never invite them. They just stoke their fears and their anger about "the government" as some great boogieman in their lives when the real loss of freedom they face is by turning their minds off and being prisoners to their own ignorance.

You don't have to tow the entire Democratic party platform to be a Democrat. But if you fall out of line on just one thing within the Republican platform, they treat you like you're the scum of the Earth. It's the single greatest difference between the parties, and the least attractive quality of today's GOP.

You have summed it up pretty well although your conclusion is incorrect. What you describe is what has been said about democrats and the liberal left for years, they toe the party line. No room for dissention even on points they SAY they disagree. Bravo I like being proved right. On the other hand Republicans are actually more open minded and will argue points as you point out. You seem to condemn the open expression of opposing views but that is not surprising.

sorry cant agree with that.....i have been negged by righties here just for disagreeing with them.....just for being an ex federal worker who backed the Union i was in.....and have been called a "libturd" by some just because i disagreed with them....the only argument i got was them calling me a few colorful metaphors....

 

[ogibillm]

Make up your mind, do you want the product of my labors or not? You want my distribution hold your hands out and take it.

I don't want shit from you, if do not want to pay taxes then don't pay them, no skin off my nose but for god's sake quit whining and bitching about it like your life is just ruined every April 15th. If you are actually upper middle class and still cannot make ends meet because you had to pay taxes then cut your expenses and start living within your means like the rest of us.

In spite of having over 60% of my labor taken as taxes I'm doing just effing fine, no thanks to lazy ass holes like you.

i call shenanigans. i'd love to see how you get to a 60% effective tax rate.

 

[RKMBrown]

I think you would be astounded at what I have accomplished but sadly you will never know just as I will never know if what you say is for real and you are not some trailer dwelling inbred talking big, in the end it does not matter. If I were to take your statements on faith it sounds as if you are somewhat industrious and independent which is wonderful but why are you so scared and angry? You have more than most and yet it just is not enough for you to be happy instead you seem to be focused on the money that got away rather than all the good things you have. You only go around this life one time, don't spend it bitching and dissatisfied while surrounded by abundance, that's the worst kind of waste and it makes you seem spoiled and selfish to me.

Spoiled for defending my assets and my children's assets from the likes of you? Eff you ya socialist puke. GTFO me an my family. Go earn your own living and stop living off mine.

Dude, I am not the United States government. I am not personally involved in any decisions made by the IRS or any other agency, state or local government with the power to tax your property or income, so quit acting as if I am personally responsible for your plight. Take responsibly for your decisions that left you with such a large tax obligation and do something about it. Christ, you people love to tell everyone to take responsibility for their actions but then you throw blame for your troubles around like a frigging maniac, grow up.

I'll take your deflection of blame for the re-distributions to government agencies as you backing off your earlier statement that there is no such thing as re-distributions.

As for troubles... where the eff did I say I have troubles? Believe me, I have no trouble in defending myself and family from the likes of you and your kind who push for even more socialism in this country. Your time to bask in the glory of marist redistributions from Emperor Obama is coming to an end.