Why do Republicans consider themselves "patriotic"?

[rdean]

Easy question, do you agree with this gentleman?

Different time, different place.


His "Government" was the king of England.

Now we have a Government Of the People, By the People, For the People...

Did you miss that day in History class?


You far right nutters talk about our government as if it were some foreign imperial tyrant -- not the people shopping at your mall, going to your churches, with kids in the same schools as your kids... YOU. YOU are the government.

It's really a form of self-loathing--you hate yourself and don't trust yourself.

Your signature line:

Taliban or Tea Party?
Ideological Purity.
Compromise as weakness.
Fundamentalist belief in scriptural literalism.
Denying science.
A need to control women's bodies.
Severe xenophobia.
Tribal mentality (us vs. them)

Really hit the nail on the head.

 

[Vigilante]

Since we've gotten to Repubs., and Dimwits, shall we go back to the question, do you or do you not agree with the statement?

 

[KNB]

Since Republicans hate the big oppressive Communist government now, does that mean that the GOP will be running on repealing the USAPATRIOT Act to limit the big government's powers?

 

[jasonnfree]

America isn't America any more. This isn't the country of my birth. It isn't the country I was raised to love and respect. It's been transformed. We are now the Godless communists we challenged with a good dose of perversion and degeneracy thrown in for good measure.

What are we supposed to be patriotic to? Not this government. It is hostile to the people. There is no longer a concept of unity among the people. We are fractionalized to the point where we want one another dead.

How can democrats even imagine that Republicans would owe or give what this country has become anything remotely like patriotism?

Then you are separatists by definition. Good luck with your secession and good riddance.

Do you think that a country this divided can continue to stand?

Yeah, it'll continue. I went to a family reunion this summer, over a hundred people. People talked about their families and football. Politics wasn't mentioned. The country is not as divided as you think, and the average person doesn't obsess over Obama like you do. Only internet junkies worry too much about politics. Look at how many even vote. Not too many.

 

[Vigilante]

Different time, different place.


His "Government" was the king of England.

Now we have a Government Of the People, By the People, For the People...

Did you miss that day in History class?


You far right nutters talk about our government as if it were some foreign imperial tyrant -- not the people shopping at your mall, going to your churches, with kids in the same schools as your kids... YOU. YOU are the government.

It's really a form of self-loathing--you hate yourself and don't trust yourself.

What part of "INCLUDE THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT" do you not understand, ...well with a 2 difit IQ, I guess ALL OF IT you don't understand!

Washington was referring to the newly formed government and wanting to prevent another tyranny that was for them, King George.

If Obama was anything like King George, you'd be in one of those FEMA work camps you fucked up righties whisper about when you think there's no lefties in the room.

Well, since it's been pointed out that Washington, didn't say exactly what was pictured, your BULLSHIT, has turn to smellier bullshit. Of course it refers to our government, and preventing tyranny FROM WITHIN!

 

[KNB]

Republicans consider it to be "patriotic" to sell missiles to terrorists in Afghanistan, just as long as you don't call them "terrorists".

 

[occupied]

Do you think that a country this divided can continue to stand?

divided between who? I see the nativists/xenophobes (you) and the obscenely wealthy but who else?

You and everyone like you. The nation is divided. It will not come together even for a collective defense.

You are wrong there, we would come together if we were being attacked for real but selling foreign adventures for fun, profit and dare I say it? Glory? If you have to sell a war that hard, such as the one all repubs really, really want in Iran, it's probably not a good idea in the first place.

 

[Vigilante]

Republicans consider it to be "patriotic" to sell missiles to terrorists in Afghanistan, just as long as you don't call them "terrorists".

But Obuma GIVES weapons to terrorists, the SAME terrorists in Syria!

 

[peach174]

Different time, different place.


His "Government" was the king of England.

Now we have a Government Of the People, By the People, For the People...

Did you miss that day in History class?


You far right nutters talk about our government as if it were some foreign imperial tyrant -- not the people shopping at your mall, going to your churches, with kids in the same schools as your kids... YOU. YOU are the government.

It's really a form of self-loathing--you hate yourself and don't trust yourself.

No!
It is now a Government Of the government, by the Government for the Government.
Both parties are doing this.
We the people are no longer a part of it.

No, they don't. Not to the same extent. Not even close.

Here is a picture of a woman, a female of the Species

Here is a picture of another woman, another female of the species. Anatomically identical, anthropologically the same in every way..... Two breasts, wider hips for the expulsion of the human child (human head is large, even at birth) complete with ovaries, uterus and all the other female equipment designed for the continuance of the species.

Just like the woman above. Identical in every meaningful way.

Can you tell the difference?

No, my dearest Peach. They are not 'all the same'

Not even close

Do some research.
Lobbyists control both parties.
A different Tax system would get most of the influence and favoritism out.
Lobbyists make it rain for Democrats | Center for Public Integrity

Never Mind the Middle?Barack Obama Pays Off His Rich Backers - The Daily Beast

 

[Little-Acorn]

make up the most ridiculous nonsense, like Democrats are working towards a "new world order" or Democrats want to "redistribute" the wealth.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U1vRyJQntw]Obama tells Joe the Plumber, I want to Spread the Wealth - YouTube[/ame]

It certainly was "ridiculous nonsense", but as you can see, Republicans didn't "make it up". Credit for that goes to one Barack Obama.

Read my signature line and you can feel the hate.

True for many leftists. They run on hate, thrive on it, to the absence of any facts of proof. If they couldn't insult, denigrate, and lie about their opponents, they would have nothing to say at all.

 

[shart_attack]

Little Deanie can't grasp the laughable double standard of Democrats who require valid ID to get into their own convention yet declare that you shouldn't need the same valid ID in order to vote.

Need a license to hunt and fish and carry a valid photo id. So to democrats voting is somewhere below fishing.

Because everyone has a car and the money to hunt and fish. Got it.

And yet, somehow they still have the money to pay for Internet services that allow them to troll people online.

Go figure.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Do you think that a country this divided can continue to stand?

The country is not divided against itself.

Beinng mosttly conservative, most Americans are on the same side.

They merely oppose the basic agenda, and so many of the policies, of the present government... and of a few if the leftist extremists that actually support it.

 

[Little-Acorn]

A different Tax system would get most of the influence and favoritism out.
Lobbyists make it rain for Democrats | Center for Public Integrity

Never Mind the Middle?Barack Obama Pays Off His Rich Backers - The Daily Beast

"When politicians control the buying and selling of things, the first things bought and sold, will be politicians."

Which is why the Fed govt has no Constitutional authority to control the buying and selling of anything.

Closest they can come, is to charge import/export taxes and duties on limited goods. Plus whatever they can distort and twist out of the Commerce Clause. And the more they distort and twist out of thet, the more corrupt they become.

 

[occupied]

Do you think that a country this divided can continue to stand?

The country is not divided against itself.

Beinng mosttly conservative, most Americans are on the same side.

They merely oppose the basic agenda, and so many of the policies, of the present government... and of a few if the leftist extremists that actually support it.

The real "leftist extremists" have no pull whatsoever with this government, I have no idea who you are talking about and I suspect you do not either.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Do you think that a country this divided can continue to stand?

The country is not divided against itself.

Beinng mosttly conservative, most Americans are on the same side.

They merely oppose the basic agenda, and so many of the policies, of the present government... and of a few if the leftist extremists that actually support it.

The real "leftist extremists" have no pull whatsoever with this government, I have no idea who you are talking about and I suspect you do not either.

Speak of the Devil, and look who shows up... desperately telling the de rigeur lie about what he wishes I'd said, to divert attention from what I did say instead.

 

[Erand7899]

Yeah, the Republican brand needs some fixing. I love reading about the old time Republicans. Back when they were the thinking man's party and not the lowest common denominator party.

Today's Republican party is controlled by deep moneyed interests who do a great job of fleecing totally average people into their little swindle that promises wealth distribution for their voters as long as they vote for them. The promise of tax cuts trickling down from rich people to their own pockets is the greatest fleecing in modern American history. It's the basis of their entire economic platform: Vote for us and we'll invite you to the cool kids table. Except they never invite them. They just stoke their fears and their anger about "the government" as some great boogieman in their lives when the real loss of freedom they face is by turning their minds off and being prisoners to their own ignorance.

You don't have to tow the entire Democratic party platform to be a Democrat. But if you fall out of line on just one thing within the Republican platform, they treat you like you're the scum of the Earth. It's the single greatest difference between the parties, and the least attractive quality of today's GOP.

Your knowledge of the subject matter of your rant is questionable at best, and your knowledge of economics is non existant. Your rhetoric is indictative of a partisan stooge who cannot sustain a debate on the merits of your own choice of parties, so you are forced to frame the other party as a horrible choice.

First and foremost, both parties have their share of monied interests who attempt to bend government policies to further their own financial interests. The fact that you do not recognize this, is a sure sign that you are the prisoner of your own ignorance.

Second, only an uneducated economic moron would believe that the supporters of trickle down economics expect money to fall into their hands from the wealthy class. The real concept is that everyone is better off in a healthy, growing, economic environment, and that is the desired goal.

Republicans, for the most part, do not expect government to do for them, they figure they are perfectly capable of doing for themselves. They desire government, and especially the federal government to stay the hell out of their way, and allow them to do for themselves.

I worked hard for over forty years to provide a decent standard of living for my wife and four kids. I did not work hard to provide for the lazy ass down the street, or to provide wealth to solar energy companies, or to bail out the UAW at Chrysler and General Motors. Every dollar that I pay in federal taxes, is a dollar taken away from the overall welfare of my children, and that means that I desire the federal government to use those tax dollars wisely.

I also firmly believe that a federal government that is big enough to give you liberal/socialists the benefits that you firmly believe are owed to you, is big enough to take everything away from all of us. Our federal government is currently too big to be effectively controlled by our elected leaders, and that means it is already way too big.

 

[peach174]

Do you think that a country this divided can continue to stand?

The country is not divided against itself.

Beinng mosttly conservative, most Americans are on the same side.

They merely oppose the basic agenda, and so many of the policies, of the present government... and of a few if the leftist extremists that actually support it.

The real "leftist extremists" have no pull whatsoever with this government, I have no idea who you are talking about and I suspect you do not either.

Then why are people getting fired all over the place for their freedom of speech and opinions?
Why are children being expelled from schools for drawing or having toy guns?
Why are Washington reporters being expelled from the halls of Washington D.C.?
Why are more people getting Government assistance?
This is all leftist extremism. Political Correctness run amok and it has gone way to far.

 

[Dot Com]

Do you think that a country this divided can continue to stand?

divided between who? I see the nativists/xenophobes (you) and the obscenely wealthy but who else?

You and everyone like you. The nation is divided. It will not come together even for a collective defense.

You ever run for office Blathergrl? Instead of spouting-off rw revolutionary rhetoric here, why don't you try to actually do something? [MENTION=33658]Katzndogz[/MENTION]

 

[Little-Acorn]

The real "leftist extremists" have no pull whatsoever with this government, I have no idea who you are talking about and I suspect you do not either.

It's always entertaining to watch the leftist fanatics insist they have no idea who I'm talking about... and then in practically the same breath, give details about exactly what those people are doing.

Have you noticed how these people's lies have become more and more extreme and ludicrous in the last year or two? It's all they have to defend their agenda... and they are rrunning out of people who believe them.

 

[Dot Com]

divided between who? I see the nativists/xenophobes (you) and the obscenely wealthy but who else?

You and everyone like you. The nation is divided. It will not come together even for a collective defense.

You are wrong there, we would come together if we were being attacked for real but selling foreign adventures for fun, profit and dare I say it? Glory? If you have to sell a war that hard, such as the one all repubs really, really want in Iran, it's probably not a good idea in the first place.

^ that

Now that Vigilante brought up one of the Founders, Gen. Washington, I wonder what his view of maintaining a standing army are?

American Resistance to a Standing Army | Teachinghistory.org

Quote from Madison: "The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people."

A LOT of cons here are military wannabe-types/hyper patriotic corporate dupes. I served BTW as opposed to many of the rw chest-beaters here.