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There is always some cheating, but never enough to change the results in a national election. No one asked for a recount in some Republican county's that counts May have been a little unrealistic.
“Why do Dems Keep Saying there is no Proof of Voter Fraud?”

Because there’s no proof of ‘fraud.’

All ‘fraud’ allegations have been devoid of fact, merit, and evidence.

That’s true this year just as it was true September of last year.
 

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Probably the same reason Republicans who get caught doing it never learn
Republicans are just now barely beginning to learn how to play dirty like the Dims.
And the Dims are furious since playing dirty is supposed to be their advantage alone.
What a very stupid post ^^^; making this claim is the apogee of ignorance, or a damn lie - very likely both.
Thank you for your comment.......Comrade
 

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Statement: Why do Dems Keep Saying there is no Proof of Voter Fraud? It is a Proven FACT

Response: The Federal Courts have been packed by conservative judges and justices, why have the trier of facts not convicted any Democrat of voter fraud?
Yeah....in Communists countries the tyrants rarely ever face justice.

Sounds good to you though no doubt.
 

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Reasons for the under-counted and over-counted votes are unclear, although in some cases people may have signed in to vote, then left before casting their ballots because of long lines. Machine malfunctions also may have played a role; on Election Day, more than 80 optical vote scanners broke down in Detroit.

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We need to COMPLETELY throw out ALL the election results and RE DO the entire election.

This time with FEDERAL POLL WATCHERS backing our regular poll watchers.

The SCOTUS should throw out this Coup attempt.
Nah, i think all we need to do is to toss out the mail-in ballots that were counted without a Republican observer present, then Trump wins five states and maybe Virginia.
 

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Statement: Why do Dems Keep Saying there is no Proof of Voter Fraud? It is a Proven FACT

Response: The Federal Courts have been packed by conservative judges and justices, why have the trier of facts not convicted any Democrat of voter fraud?
Yeah....in Communists countries the tyrants rarely ever face justice.

Sounds good to you though no doubt.
In totalitarian / authoritarian countries there is no justice. We are in theory a country where no one is supposed to be above the law, that was mostly true until our Democratic Republic was handcuffed by Moscow Mitch and his Comrade's Donald Trump and AG Barr.
 

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Or maybe it had nothing to do with fraud.

FACT CHECK: More Votes than Voters in Detroit?

What's True
Confirmation from officials and records obtained by a local newspaper documented widespread discrepancies in Detroit's 2016 general election vote tallies.

What's False
The discrepancy did not involve Detroit's recording more votes than registered voters, but rather precinct poll workers miscounting the number of people who voted.
Coyotee, don't be niave.

Where are the over counts in Trumps favor?

They don't exist.
Did you review every vote from every precinct in every state? No?
 

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Other than the multiple people prosecuted in Texas, we have the Jill Steing recount that was halted because it was exposing Democrat fraud.

Detroit's election woes: 782 more votes than voters
"Donald Trump carried Michigan by 10,704 votes, or 47.5% to 47.3%, according to the final results submitted to the Michigan Secretary of State. But in Detroit, Democrat Hillary Clinton trounced Trump, winning 95% of the vote to his 3%.​
The Free Press analysis found there were 248 precincts in Detroit where voting machines tabulated more Election Day votes than people who were counted as checking in to vote. The affected precincts represent 37% of the city's 662 precincts....​
Most of those overages were by small amounts — on average about 3 votes — with the largest being 12 votes in a single precinct. Those small numbers, which add up to 782 total spread out across more than 200 precincts, tend to point to human or machine malfunction as the culprit, rather than widespread fraud.​
In 158 precincts, the number of ballots tabulated by the optical-scanning voting machines was inexplicably less than the number of people who signed in to vote. At least 362 ballots were not counted in those precincts, even though the voters had been listed in poll books.​
Altogether, the total of over-counted and under-counted ballots was about 1,144. As a result, nearly 60% of Detroit's precincts weren't eligible for recount because the number of ballots in the ballot box didn't match the number of people listed as voting in the poll book.​
The Free Press analysis came from handwritten tabulations logged by the Wayne County Board of Canvassers. The numbers are approximated because notes in eight precincts were illegible or unclear. This is the first time that actual figures for over-counted and under-counted votes have been reported​
Detroit's inability to reconcile its ballots with its voter lists was exposed in the recount requested by Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein that was later ordered stopped by the Michigan Supreme Court. The discrepancy became national news, including headlines suggesting voter fraud...​
Under Michigan law, precincts cannot be recounted when the number of voters in the poll book doesn't match the number of ballots in the ballot box. Almost 60% of Detroit's precincts were mismatched — either having too many or not enough ballots to match poll books — and ineligible for recount, according to the Wayne County Clerk's Office.​

No it wasnt voter fraud just cuz Clinton got all the gain from the 'miscounts', lol.
Proven Fact? Hmmmm...Sounds like someone stealin' my lines. (hehe) . However, you are right. ALL of those Mail Out Ballots were fraudulent.
 

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So, is Donald Trump Corrupt?

Given the Flynn Pardon by Donald Trump, whe Flynn lied to the court (the first time) and the second time he told the judge that he lied when he admitted guilt the first time. And still trump pardons flynn.
 

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Multiple precincts in Detroit reported more votes than voters in the 2016 general election, suggesting voter or electoral fraud.



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What's True
Confirmation from officials and records obtained by a local newspaper documented widespread discrepancies in Detroit's 2016 general election vote tallies.

What's False
The discrepancy did not involve Detroit's recording more votes than registered voters, but rather precinct poll workers miscounting the number of people who voted.

FACT CHECK: More Votes than Voters in Detroit?
Snopes?

lol.

So since it was random mistakes, then Trump got roughly the same number of votes in his favor that Clinton did right?

ROFLMAO, no it all went to Clinton, but just 'randomly'.


sure, lol
Yeah really snopes a mouthpiece for the government? Comedy gold. :laughing0301:
 

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Democrats have been losing the black vote for a while now.
Without replacements, or trickery / corruption, they have no chance.

Everyone knows this. Nothing new. Hence the cry for open borders and free shit for all.
The willful ignorance from the left is off the charts.
The ONLY things the Left HAS left in their arsenal is name-calling and violence. The only platform the Left has is, "We hate Trump. Orange man bad." THAT'S it! And ALL of the violence in the last 2 to 2 and a half years has come from the Left. This brings to mind a quote by writer Isaac Asimov - "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." And the Left has shown their incompetency again and again these last couple years. Pitiful.
You missed the most important fact of them all,evade facts and lie when you can’t refute them :biggrin:
 

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Or maybe it had nothing to do with fraud.

FACT CHECK: More Votes than Voters in Detroit?

What's True
Confirmation from officials and records obtained by a local newspaper documented widespread discrepancies in Detroit's 2016 general election vote tallies.

What's False
The discrepancy did not involve Detroit's recording more votes than registered voters, but rather precinct poll workers miscounting the number of people who voted.
Coyotee, don't be niave.

Where are the over counts in Trumps favor?

They don't exist.

How do you accidently miscount and do it only to favor one candidate and not also the other in fairly equal amounts?

This is bullpucky and you know it.

And Scopes? Puhleeze!
As always here everyday,she gets her ass handed to her on a platter.lol
The FRAUD was changing the Voting rules. On Election day ,Trump probably scores a 2 to 1 margin. Mail-out? Maybe 1 in 10.
 

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Multiple precincts in Detroit reported more votes than voters in the 2016 general election, suggesting voter or electoral fraud.



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What's True
Confirmation from officials and records obtained by a local newspaper documented widespread discrepancies in Detroit's 2016 general election vote tallies.

What's False
The discrepancy did not involve Detroit's recording more votes than registered voters, but rather precinct poll workers miscounting the number of people who voted.

FACT CHECK: More Votes than Voters in Detroit?
Snopes?

lol.

So since it was random mistakes, then Trump got roughly the same number of votes in his favor that Clinton did right?

ROFLMAO, no it all went to Clinton, but just randomly.
Huh? They corrected the mistakes before any final, certified tally.
Here were the discrepancies for Wagne County... same link...

Among the discrepancies found by Wayne County were:

77 precincts +1 vote
62 precincts +2 votes
37 precincts +3 votes
20 precincts +4 votes
52 precincts +5 or more votes
81 precincts -1 vote
29 precincts -2 votes
19 precincts -3 votes
7 precincts -4 votes
8 precincts -5 or more votes


So while elections officials in Detroit confirmed that voting irregularities involving excess vote counts existed, that issue was about inaccurate head counts taken by poll workers rather than fraud. The discrepancies mostly involved a handful of votes per precinct, and neither candidate was believed to have been favored by the errors.


Reports of equipment malfunctions in Michigan precincts were widely covered after the 8 November 2016 general election.
So according to election officials, the miscounts were not mostly for one candidate?

rolmao

Pardon me if I don't take their word for it, will ya? I'll bet that they were at least 90% in favor of Clinton, since she took 93% of the Detroit vote.

See what I did there? :D
Yep. You made a claim, saw that claim disproven with facts, and then went "I bet it was the way I said anyway".
Complete divorce from reality.
 

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Multiple precincts in Detroit reported more votes than voters in the 2016 general election, suggesting voter or electoral fraud.



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What's True
Confirmation from officials and records obtained by a local newspaper documented widespread discrepancies in Detroit's 2016 general election vote tallies.

What's False
The discrepancy did not involve Detroit's recording more votes than registered voters, but rather precinct poll workers miscounting the number of people who voted.

FACT CHECK: More Votes than Voters in Detroit?
Snopes?

lol.

So since it was random mistakes, then Trump got roughly the same number of votes in his favor that Clinton did right?

ROFLMAO, no it all went to Clinton, but just randomly.
Huh? They corrected the mistakes before any final, certified tally.
Here were the discrepancies for Wagne County... same link...

Among the discrepancies found by Wayne County were:

77 precincts +1 vote
62 precincts +2 votes
37 precincts +3 votes
20 precincts +4 votes
52 precincts +5 or more votes
81 precincts -1 vote
29 precincts -2 votes
19 precincts -3 votes
7 precincts -4 votes
8 precincts -5 or more votes


So while elections officials in Detroit confirmed that voting irregularities involving excess vote counts existed, that issue was about inaccurate head counts taken by poll workers rather than fraud. The discrepancies mostly involved a handful of votes per precinct, and neither candidate was believed to have been favored by the errors.


Reports of equipment malfunctions in Michigan precincts were widely covered after the 8 November 2016 general election.
So according to election officials, the miscounts were not mostly for one candidate?

rolmao

Pardon me if I don't take their word for it, will ya? I'll bet that they were at least 90% in favor of Clinton, since she took 93% of the Detroit vote.

See what I did there? :D
Yep. You made a claim, saw that claim disproven with facts, and then went "I bet it was the way I said anyway".
Complete divorce from reality.
What "Facts" ? CNN facts? NYT facts? WAPO Facts?
 

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Statement: Why do Dems Keep Saying there is no Proof of Voter Fraud? It is a Proven FACT

Response: The Federal Courts have been packed by conservative judges and justices, why have the trier of facts not convicted any Democrat of voter fraud?
Yeah....in Communists countries the tyrants rarely ever face justice.

Sounds good to you though no doubt.
In totalitarian / authoritarian countries there is no justice. We are in theory a country where no one is supposed to be above the law, that was mostly true until our Democratic Republic was handcuffed by Moscow Mitch and his Comrade's Donald Trump and AG Barr.





Hmmmm, Comey lays out 3 felony offenses for the shrilary.

Manafort is prosecuted for the same things Podesta was doing.

The Dems spied on Trump and ran a coup attempt.

You were saying?
 

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Multiple precincts in Detroit reported more votes than voters in the 2016 general election, suggesting voter or electoral fraud.



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What's True
Confirmation from officials and records obtained by a local newspaper documented widespread discrepancies in Detroit's 2016 general election vote tallies.

What's False
The discrepancy did not involve Detroit's recording more votes than registered voters, but rather precinct poll workers miscounting the number of people who voted.

FACT CHECK: More Votes than Voters in Detroit?
Snopes?

lol.

So since it was random mistakes, then Trump got roughly the same number of votes in his favor that Clinton did right?

ROFLMAO, no it all went to Clinton, but just randomly.
Huh? They corrected the mistakes before any final, certified tally.
Here were the discrepancies for Wagne County... same link...

Among the discrepancies found by Wayne County were:

77 precincts +1 vote
62 precincts +2 votes
37 precincts +3 votes
20 precincts +4 votes
52 precincts +5 or more votes
81 precincts -1 vote
29 precincts -2 votes
19 precincts -3 votes
7 precincts -4 votes
8 precincts -5 or more votes


So while elections officials in Detroit confirmed that voting irregularities involving excess vote counts existed, that issue was about inaccurate head counts taken by poll workers rather than fraud. The discrepancies mostly involved a handful of votes per precinct, and neither candidate was believed to have been favored by the errors.


Reports of equipment malfunctions in Michigan precincts were widely covered after the 8 November 2016 general election.
So according to election officials, the miscounts were not mostly for one candidate?

rolmao

Pardon me if I don't take their word for it, will ya? I'll bet that they were at least 90% in favor of Clinton, since she took 93% of the Detroit vote.

See what I did there? :D
Yep. You made a claim, saw that claim disproven with facts, and then went "I bet it was the way I said anyway".
Complete divorce from reality.





You have provided no facts. Merely opinion.
 

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Rudy Giuliani's opening statement on PA voter fraud.
Hard facts start at 5:00, 14:00
Absentee ballots sent out in PA = 1.8 million, but 2.5 million absentee ballots were counted. 11:08

Once again, your statement is simply not true...barren of facts.

The Secretary of state made these comments on Nov 3, election day, on what percentage of ballots mailed out, were returned. 81% of the ballots REQUESTED were returned...2.6 million, was her estimate of total returned ballots out of what she mailed, which was 81% of the total ballots that she mailed.
Over 3 million were mailed out, NOT 1.8 million.
YOU are being lied to.

By HOLLY OTTERBEIN

11/03/2020 01:31 PM EST

PHILADELPHIA — Pennsylvania has received more than 2.5 million mail-in and absentee ballots so far, according to new data from election officials here.

That means that 81 percent of state voters who were sent those ballots have returned them. To break it down, more than 1.6 million of those ballots were from registered Democrats, 586,000 were from Republicans, and 278,000 were from independents or third-party voters.


This isn’t surprising or necessarily revealing: Political insiders have expected for months that Democrats would vote disproportionately by mail, while Republicans would vote disproportionately in person.


One stat that is interesting, though, is that 84 percent of registered Democrats who have been sent mail-in or absentee ballots have returned them, compared with 74 percent of Republicans.

When all is said and done, Kathy Boockvar, Pennsylvania’s Secretary of the Commonwealth, said she expects to receive as many as 2.6 million mail-in and absentee ballots. A Philadelphia election official estimated that 400,000 such votes would come from the city
 
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