postman
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REAL ID requirements could present a barrier for married women whose names differ from those listed on their birth certificate.
Zone1 If Voter Fraud Is So Easy, Why is it So Rare?
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REAL ID requirements could present a barrier for married women whose names differ from those listed on their birth certificate.
candycorn
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It shouldn’t; you’re right.
Not at all true. The moment someone like your blob loses, you’ll be swearing the photo IDs are fake.
Just like you guys claimed:
- Ballots were trucked from one state to another. https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2020...ghost-hunter-long-criminal-record/6496500002/
- North Korea Dumped Ballots. https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2020...ghost-hunter-long-criminal-record/6496500002/
- Ballots were printed in foreign nations China Whistleblower with Royal Ancestry Steps Forward - Reveals Video, Photos of Alleged Chinese Counterfeit Ballot Printing Operations of US Ballots for MS, FL and NC | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
I’ve made my voice clear about this on this thread many times. In summary... I think you should have to register every 10 years. Not because of any sizable fraud is taking place. Clearly it is not. I lay out the reasons in the OP. What needs to be done however is that we clean up the voter rolls. I’m likely still on the voter rolls in CA, SC, and Texas. I haven’t lived in those states in years. I didn’t notify the Secretary of State’s office when I moved from one state to another so they likely have no reason to think I moved. I don’t know. Anyway, every 10 years, you register to vote just to show that you’re still alive, living where you say you live...and are intersted in voting. I go back and fourth on whether or not to require frequent voters to re-register. At the time of registration, you also select your preference to vote by mail or in person or via alternate means. If you can’t muster the chutzpah to register every 10 years, do we really want you deciding elections???? LOL
C_Clayton_Jones
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The voter fraud lie is an important weapon in the right's war on the right to vote.It isn't that there are just so few arrests for voter fraud, it's also that there are so few duplicate ballots and that the down-ballot races rarely (if ever) show any massive voter fraud as well.
What is not discussed because the Presidency dominates so much of the discussion about voter fraud is that each and every voter is represented by a Senator and a US Congressperson. So if there is massive voter fraud in Nebraska's first district or Calfornia's 20th, there would be outsized numbers in both of those districts as well. Yet the losers in those districts never seem to cry foul very often.
What also isn't happening is massive complaints about persons showing up to the polls and being told that they already votes OR subsequent visits by state elections officials who wonder why Jane Doe voted twice--once by the alleged nefarious creature who supposedly voted in her name and then by the actual Jane Doe who went to the polls as she has done every year for decades. Or as described below, multiple ballots being mailed to the same house...
Some people went to vote, but were told they'd already cast ballots. Here's why.
Some Californians say when they went to cast their ballot in the recall election, they were told they already voted. Caption: Full report that aired in FOX26's 10:00 p. m. newscast It turns out, that happens every election. There are a number of reasons as to why. In Los Angeles County...kmph.com
If the alleged fraud was so rampant, there wouldn't be these itemized stories about such fraud.
Moreover, if it were so easy, clearly, the parties would institute sophisticated mechanisms to take advantage of the alleged loopholes. But that hasn't happened either.
Why?
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Which are resolved by their marriage certificate. You’re fear mongering. That’s it. 80/20
postman
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I'd like to see those polls, because from what I know, the opposite is true.
Not really.
You'all are a bunch of lying degenerates that cannot be honest to save your lives.
Everyone knows that Democrats are Donkeys......and they argue like Donkeys:
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After 10 Years of Voter ID, WILL's Research Shows Wisconsin Voter Turnout on the Rise
Click here to visit " After 10 Years of Voter ID, WILL's Research Shows Wisconsin Voter Turnout on the Rise " at the Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty.
will-law.org
Voter ID and High Turnout in North Carolina - R Street Institute
North Carolina has finished tallying its votes, and an impressive 70 percent of the eligible population cast a ballot. This currently represents the 11th best turnout; however, some states are still counting their ballots. The 2024 election was North Carolina’s first general election under its...
www.rstreet.org
New Study Confirms Voter ID Laws Don’t Hurt Election Turnout
Less than one week after Georgia Democrat Stacey Abrams made inflammatory claims in her State of the Union response about an epidemic of “voter suppression” jeopardizing the character of our nation, the National Bureau of Economic Research released a study that demonstrates once again that voter...
www.heritage.org
postman
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They answered the question as asked.
and 80% didn't have a problem showing any old PHOTO ID.
Because lots of people have photo ID's from lots of places.
It's the more restrictive requirements, of a REAL ID, or government issued ID (and not just any Government ID)
People don't presume when asked questions like that.
candycorn
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Thanks for actually providing some citations. Most who think like you do not.
After 10 Years of Voter ID, WILL's Research Shows Wisconsin Voter Turnout on the Rise
Click here to visit " After 10 Years of Voter ID, WILL's Research Shows Wisconsin Voter Turnout on the Rise " at the Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty.
Voter ID and High Turnout in North Carolina - R Street Institute
North Carolina has finished tallying its votes, and an impressive 70 percent of the eligible population cast a ballot. This currently represents the 11th best turnout; however, some states are still counting their ballots. The 2024 election was North Carolina’s first general election under its...
New Study Confirms Voter ID Laws Don’t Hurt Election Turnout
Less than one week after Georgia Democrat Stacey Abrams made inflammatory claims in her State of the Union response about an epidemic of “voter suppression” jeopardizing the character of our nation, the National Bureau of Economic Research released a study that demonstrates once again that voter...
The problem with your citations is the sample size given the Trump effect. When we have multiple elections with candidates who aren’t ratings driven...you’ll see the actual numbers.
Couchpotato
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You’re going to have to provide proof that 20% of people were ok with voter id because they thought they could use their COSTCO card and wouldn’t be required to show a DL or something equivalent
candycorn
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You do realize that the change in the drivers license, updates to the bank account, and updating the SS information is something you have to do. Not doing so means trouble for you in the future when you show an ID that doesn’t match the name you gave, when your bank account doesn’t match your new DL, and your SS Benefits. These are things where you have a vested monetary/legal interest in updating the record.
Voting doesn’t hold the same reward and penalizes women in that regard (if you want to call it a penalty).
Meanwhile, the fact stands that voter fraud is exceptionally rare and these new hoops do nothing except create artificial friction between the citizen and the ballotbox.
To answer the thread question, the majority of people are law abiding.It isn't that there are just so few arrests for voter fraud, it's also that there are so few duplicate ballots and that the down-ballot races rarely (if ever) show any massive voter fraud as well.
What is not discussed because the Presidency dominates so much of the discussion about voter fraud is that each and every voter is represented by a Senator and a US Congressperson. So if there is massive voter fraud in Nebraska's first district or Calfornia's 20th, there would be outsized numbers in both of those districts as well. Yet the losers in those districts never seem to cry foul very often.
What also isn't happening is massive complaints about persons showing up to the polls and being told that they already votes OR subsequent visits by state elections officials who wonder why Jane Doe voted twice--once by the alleged nefarious creature who supposedly voted in her name and then by the actual Jane Doe who went to the polls as she has done every year for decades. Or as described below, multiple ballots being mailed to the same house...
Some people went to vote, but were told they'd already cast ballots. Here's why.
Some Californians say when they went to cast their ballot in the recall election, they were told they already voted. Caption: Full report that aired in FOX26's 10:00 p. m. newscast It turns out, that happens every election. There are a number of reasons as to why. In Los Angeles County...
If the alleged fraud was so rampant, there wouldn't be these itemized stories about such fraud.
Moreover, if it were so easy, clearly, the parties would institute sophisticated mechanisms to take advantage of the alleged loopholes. But that hasn't happened either.
Why?
candycorn
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There is that. You’re right. The overwhelming majority are law abiding. Probably above 95%.
That being said, when you have people spending millions and millions of dollars for jobs that pay (sometimes) less than a hundred thousand a year, its not hard to imagine that such people are not motivated by an abundance of honesty...they want the power to shape the nation.
Money chases power and power chases money. That's why you will never get money out of politics and is why most congresscritters and presidents enter office moderately well off and leave obscenely wealthy.
candycorn
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Glad you agree with me.
It should make you more suspicious about the myth of “widespread voter fraud”. Both parties have millions of dollars at their disposal. A lot of that in the form of dark money that has no obvious name attached to it, most of which (in that group) that can’t be traced easily...if at all.
But, somehow, in this supposed atmosphere folks like yourself have created to where anyone can vote as often as they want....neither party--nor has any super rich individual bent on shaping the nation in their image (Musk, Soros, Gates, etc...) ever bankrolled such a scheme to steal elections.
Actually, it makes me suspicious of claims that fraud has NOT been attempted. It simply makes no sense that neither party would attempt to do things like discover a box of ballots in the trunk of someone's car, receive dozens of mailed ballots from a single residential address, or shut down multiple ballot counting places simultaneously, only to open them back up and suddenly discover a large cache of ballots all filled out for only one candidate. It simply strains credulity.
candycorn
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Well...where are the arrests and persecutions for widespread voter fraud then? Nowhere to be found.
Yeah especially since poltical parties don’t run general elections and would have no means to do any of that. Here is where you create yet another theory to explain how they somehow do...
Political parties... They can influence what is in the ballot box (but they amazingly haven’t through widespread voter fruad ) but not all of this cartoonishly alleged widespread voter fraud and other theatrics pulled straight out of thin air.
Are you still buying?
- Ballots were trucked from one state to another. https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2020...ghost-hunter-long-criminal-record/6496500002/
- North Korea Dumped Ballots. https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2020...ghost-hunter-long-criminal-record/6496500002/
- Ballots were printed in foreign nations China Whistleblower with Royal Ancestry Steps Forward - Reveals Video, Photos of Alleged Chinese Counterfeit Ballot Printing Operations of US Ballots for MS, FL and NC | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
Obviously, some of that is complete nonsense, but that's not what I'm talking about.
Why not just do everything possible to avoid suspicion in the first place? Make deadlines absolute, not erasable because one party or the other discovers a box of ballots in the trunk of somebody's car. If you forgot to get a bunch of ballots in, too bad, it's on you that you denied someone their vote. Do not allow ANY ballot handling or counting to be done out of plain sight. From the moment the polls close, all ballots and anything that contains ballots are completely visible, not stuck out of sight under somebody's desk. No plywood covering windows. No simultaneously shutting down multiple counting places only to re-open with a massive cache of ballots all for one candidate. Require photo ID to vote and make them available free to the voters. Why is there such a struggle against even common-sense measures like these? Such struggles only bolster the contention that the party resisting them is cheating and doesn't want anything that would make it harder to get away with said cheating.
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