CDZ Why do Dems Keep Saying there is no Proof of Voter Fraud? It is a Proven FACT

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Other than the multiple people prosecuted in Texas, we have the Jill Steing recount that was halted because it was exposing Democrat fraud.

Detroit's election woes: 782 more votes than voters

"Donald Trump carried Michigan by 10,704 votes, or 47.5% to 47.3%, according to the final results submitted to the Michigan Secretary of State. But in Detroit, Democrat Hillary Clinton trounced Trump, winning 95% of the vote to his 3%.

The Free Press analysis found there were 248 precincts in Detroit where voting machines tabulated more Election Day votes than people who were counted as checking in to vote. The affected precincts represent 37% of the city's 662 precincts....

Most of those overages were by small amounts — on average about 3 votes — with the largest being 12 votes in a single precinct. Those small numbers, which add up to 782 total spread out across more than 200 precincts, tend to point to human or machine malfunction as the culprit, rather than widespread fraud.

In 158 precincts, the number of ballots tabulated by the optical-scanning voting machines was inexplicably less than the number of people who signed in to vote. At least 362 ballots were not counted in those precincts, even though the voters had been listed in poll books.

Altogether, the total of over-counted and under-counted ballots was about 1,144. As a result, nearly 60% of Detroit's precincts weren't eligible for recount because the number of ballots in the ballot box didn't match the number of people listed as voting in the poll book.

The Free Press analysis came from handwritten tabulations logged by the Wayne County Board of Canvassers. The numbers are approximated because notes in eight precincts were illegible or unclear. This is the first time that actual figures for over-counted and under-counted votes have been reported

Detroit's inability to reconcile its ballots with its voter lists was exposed in the recount requested by Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein that was later ordered stopped by the Michigan Supreme Court. The discrepancy became national news, including headlines suggesting voter fraud...

Under Michigan law, precincts cannot be recounted when the number of voters in the poll book doesn't match the number of ballots in the ballot box. Almost 60% of Detroit's precincts were mismatched — either having too many or not enough ballots to match poll books — and ineligible for recount, according to the Wayne County Clerk's Office.​

No it wasnt voter fraud just cuz Clinton got all the gain from the 'miscounts', lol.
 

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Other than the multiple people prosecuted in Texas, we have the Jill Steing recount that was halted because it was exposing Democrat fraud.

Detroit's election woes: 782 more votes than voters

"Donald Trump carried Michigan by 10,704 votes, or 47.5% to 47.3%, according to the final results submitted to the Michigan Secretary of State. But in Detroit, Democrat Hillary Clinton trounced Trump, winning 95% of the vote to his 3%.

The Free Press analysis found there were 248 precincts in Detroit where voting machines tabulated more Election Day votes than people who were counted as checking in to vote. The affected precincts represent 37% of the city's 662 precincts....

Most of those overages were by small amounts — on average about 3 votes — with the largest being 12 votes in a single precinct. Those small numbers, which add up to 782 total spread out across more than 200 precincts, tend to point to human or machine malfunction as the culprit, rather than widespread fraud.

In 158 precincts, the number of ballots tabulated by the optical-scanning voting machines was inexplicably less than the number of people who signed in to vote. At least 362 ballots were not counted in those precincts, even though the voters had been listed in poll books.

Altogether, the total of over-counted and under-counted ballots was about 1,144. As a result, nearly 60% of Detroit's precincts weren't eligible for recount because the number of ballots in the ballot box didn't match the number of people listed as voting in the poll book.

The Free Press analysis came from handwritten tabulations logged by the Wayne County Board of Canvassers. The numbers are approximated because notes in eight precincts were illegible or unclear. This is the first time that actual figures for over-counted and under-counted votes have been reported

Detroit's inability to reconcile its ballots with its voter lists was exposed in the recount requested by Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein that was later ordered stopped by the Michigan Supreme Court. The discrepancy became national news, including headlines suggesting voter fraud...

Under Michigan law, precincts cannot be recounted when the number of voters in the poll book doesn't match the number of ballots in the ballot box. Almost 60% of Detroit's precincts were mismatched — either having too many or not enough ballots to match poll books — and ineligible for recount, according to the Wayne County Clerk's Office.​

No it wasnt voter fraud just cuz Clinton got all the gain from the 'miscounts', lol.
Show a single illegal vote in Detroit

Just ONE
 

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In 248 precincts, there were a total of 782 more votes tabulated by voting machines than the number of voters listed as picking up ballots in the precincts’ poll books. That makes up just three-tenths of 1% of the total 248,211 votes that were logged in Detroit for the presidential election. That number was far too small to swing the statewide election results
 

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Or maybe it had nothing to do with fraud.

FACT CHECK: More Votes than Voters in Detroit?

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Confirmation from officials and records obtained by a local newspaper documented widespread discrepancies in Detroit's 2016 general election vote tallies.

What's False
The discrepancy did not involve Detroit's recording more votes than registered voters, but rather precinct poll workers miscounting the number of people who voted.
 

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Reasons for the under-counted and over-counted votes are unclear, although in some cases people may have signed in to vote, then left before casting their ballots because of long lines. Machine malfunctions also may have played a role; on Election Day, more than 80 optical vote scanners broke down in Detroit.
 

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Other than the multiple people prosecuted in Texas, we have the Jill Steing recount that was halted because it was exposing Democrat fraud.

Detroit's election woes: 782 more votes than voters

"Donald Trump carried Michigan by 10,704 votes, or 47.5% to 47.3%, according to the final results submitted to the Michigan Secretary of State. But in Detroit, Democrat Hillary Clinton trounced Trump, winning 95% of the vote to his 3%.

The Free Press analysis found there were 248 precincts in Detroit where voting machines tabulated more Election Day votes than people who were counted as checking in to vote. The affected precincts represent 37% of the city's 662 precincts....

Most of those overages were by small amounts — on average about 3 votes — with the largest being 12 votes in a single precinct. Those small numbers, which add up to 782 total spread out across more than 200 precincts, tend to point to human or machine malfunction as the culprit, rather than widespread fraud.

In 158 precincts, the number of ballots tabulated by the optical-scanning voting machines was inexplicably less than the number of people who signed in to vote. At least 362 ballots were not counted in those precincts, even though the voters had been listed in poll books.

Altogether, the total of over-counted and under-counted ballots was about 1,144. As a result, nearly 60% of Detroit's precincts weren't eligible for recount because the number of ballots in the ballot box didn't match the number of people listed as voting in the poll book.

The Free Press analysis came from handwritten tabulations logged by the Wayne County Board of Canvassers. The numbers are approximated because notes in eight precincts were illegible or unclear. This is the first time that actual figures for over-counted and under-counted votes have been reported

Detroit's inability to reconcile its ballots with its voter lists was exposed in the recount requested by Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein that was later ordered stopped by the Michigan Supreme Court. The discrepancy became national news, including headlines suggesting voter fraud...

Under Michigan law, precincts cannot be recounted when the number of voters in the poll book doesn't match the number of ballots in the ballot box. Almost 60% of Detroit's precincts were mismatched — either having too many or not enough ballots to match poll books — and ineligible for recount, according to the Wayne County Clerk's Office.​

No it wasnt voter fraud just cuz Clinton got all the gain from the 'miscounts', lol.
Show a single illegal vote in Detroit

Just ONE
match all the votes with a real person
 
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Or maybe it had nothing to do with fraud.

FACT CHECK: More Votes than Voters in Detroit?

What's True
Confirmation from officials and records obtained by a local newspaper documented widespread discrepancies in Detroit's 2016 general election vote tallies.

What's False
The discrepancy did not involve Detroit's recording more votes than registered voters, but rather precinct poll workers miscounting the number of people who voted.
Coyotee, don't be niave.

Where are the over counts in Trumps favor?

They don't exist.

How do you accidently miscount and do it only to favor one candidate and not also the other in fairly equal amounts?

This is bullpucky and you know it.

And Scopes? Puhleeze!
 

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Other than the multiple people prosecuted in Texas, we have the Jill Steing recount that was halted because it was exposing Democrat fraud.

Detroit's election woes: 782 more votes than voters

"Donald Trump carried Michigan by 10,704 votes, or 47.5% to 47.3%, according to the final results submitted to the Michigan Secretary of State. But in Detroit, Democrat Hillary Clinton trounced Trump, winning 95% of the vote to his 3%.

The Free Press analysis found there were 248 precincts in Detroit where voting machines tabulated more Election Day votes than people who were counted as checking in to vote. The affected precincts represent 37% of the city's 662 precincts....

Most of those overages were by small amounts — on average about 3 votes — with the largest being 12 votes in a single precinct. Those small numbers, which add up to 782 total spread out across more than 200 precincts, tend to point to human or machine malfunction as the culprit, rather than widespread fraud.

In 158 precincts, the number of ballots tabulated by the optical-scanning voting machines was inexplicably less than the number of people who signed in to vote. At least 362 ballots were not counted in those precincts, even though the voters had been listed in poll books.

Altogether, the total of over-counted and under-counted ballots was about 1,144. As a result, nearly 60% of Detroit's precincts weren't eligible for recount because the number of ballots in the ballot box didn't match the number of people listed as voting in the poll book.

The Free Press analysis came from handwritten tabulations logged by the Wayne County Board of Canvassers. The numbers are approximated because notes in eight precincts were illegible or unclear. This is the first time that actual figures for over-counted and under-counted votes have been reported

Detroit's inability to reconcile its ballots with its voter lists was exposed in the recount requested by Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein that was later ordered stopped by the Michigan Supreme Court. The discrepancy became national news, including headlines suggesting voter fraud...

Under Michigan law, precincts cannot be recounted when the number of voters in the poll book doesn't match the number of ballots in the ballot box. Almost 60% of Detroit's precincts were mismatched — either having too many or not enough ballots to match poll books — and ineligible for recount, according to the Wayne County Clerk's Office.​

No it wasnt voter fraud just cuz Clinton got all the gain from the 'miscounts', lol.
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Multiple precincts in Detroit reported more votes than voters in the 2016 general election, suggesting voter or electoral fraud.



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Confirmation from officials and records obtained by a local newspaper documented widespread discrepancies in Detroit's 2016 general election vote tallies.

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The discrepancy did not involve Detroit's recording more votes than registered voters, but rather precinct poll workers miscounting the number of people who voted.

FACT CHECK: More Votes than Voters in Detroit?
 
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The Democratic Party's incredible corruption is a threat to our democracy*
The democrat urban political machine of our time is nothing more than a clone of Tammany Hall.

That is all it is but now it is feeding off of Federali steroids.

Rep Cummings got like 18 billion to help his district in Baltimore.

WHERE DID ALL THAT MONEY GO?

The last thing Cummings and other urbanite Democrats want is an honest vote, cuz then they lose control of the gravy train.

And that is the simple Truth of the whole thing.
 
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Multiple precincts in Detroit reported more votes than voters in the 2016 general election, suggesting voter or electoral fraud.



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Confirmation from officials and records obtained by a local newspaper documented widespread discrepancies in Detroit's 2016 general election vote tallies.

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The discrepancy did not involve Detroit's recording more votes than registered voters, but rather precinct poll workers miscounting the number of people who voted.

FACT CHECK: More Votes than Voters in Detroit?
Snopes?

lol.

So since it was random mistakes, then Trump got roughly the same number of votes in his favor that Clinton did right?

ROFLMAO, no it all went to Clinton, but just 'randomly'.


sure, lol
 

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Multiple precincts in Detroit reported more votes than voters in the 2016 general election, suggesting voter or electoral fraud.



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Confirmation from officials and records obtained by a local newspaper documented widespread discrepancies in Detroit's 2016 general election vote tallies.

What's False
The discrepancy did not involve Detroit's recording more votes than registered voters, but rather precinct poll workers miscounting the number of people who voted.

FACT CHECK: More Votes than Voters in Detroit?
Snopes?

lol.

So since it was random mistakes, then Trump got roughly the same number of votes in his favor that Clinton did right?

ROFLMAO, no it all went to Clinton, but just randomly.
Huh? They corrected the mistakes before any final, certified tally.
 
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Multiple precincts in Detroit reported more votes than voters in the 2016 general election, suggesting voter or electoral fraud.



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Confirmation from officials and records obtained by a local newspaper documented widespread discrepancies in Detroit's 2016 general election vote tallies.

What's False
The discrepancy did not involve Detroit's recording more votes than registered voters, but rather precinct poll workers miscounting the number of people who voted.

FACT CHECK: More Votes than Voters in Detroit?
Snopes?

lol.

So since it was random mistakes, then Trump got roughly the same number of votes in his favor that Clinton did right?

ROFLMAO, no it all went to Clinton, but just randomly.
Huh? They corrected the mistakes before any final, certified tally.
Um, no they did not.

It was only exposed from Steins recount. Had she not put in for the recount, it never would have come to light.

C4A and Coyote, I do appreciate the reasonable tone and language you are using.

Seriously, and I hope I don't come across in my Aspergery dumbassedness as contemptuous or condescending.

I just don't really understand normal people very well.
 

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Multiple precincts in Detroit reported more votes than voters in the 2016 general election, suggesting voter or electoral fraud.



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Confirmation from officials and records obtained by a local newspaper documented widespread discrepancies in Detroit's 2016 general election vote tallies.

What's False
The discrepancy did not involve Detroit's recording more votes than registered voters, but rather precinct poll workers miscounting the number of people who voted.

FACT CHECK: More Votes than Voters in Detroit?
Snopes?

lol.

So since it was random mistakes, then Trump got roughly the same number of votes in his favor that Clinton did right?

ROFLMAO, no it all went to Clinton, but just randomly.
Huh? They corrected the mistakes before any final, certified tally.
Here were the discrepancies for Wagne County... same link...

Among the discrepancies found by Wayne County were:

77 precincts +1 vote
62 precincts +2 votes
37 precincts +3 votes
20 precincts +4 votes
52 precincts +5 or more votes
81 precincts -1 vote
29 precincts -2 votes
19 precincts -3 votes
7 precincts -4 votes
8 precincts -5 or more votes


So while elections officials in Detroit confirmed that voting irregularities involving excess vote counts existed, that issue was about inaccurate head counts taken by poll workers rather than fraud. The discrepancies mostly involved a handful of votes per precinct, and neither candidate was believed to have been favored by the errors.


Reports of equipment malfunctions in Michigan precincts were widely covered after the 8 November 2016 general election.





 
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Multiple precincts in Detroit reported more votes than voters in the 2016 general election, suggesting voter or electoral fraud.



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Confirmation from officials and records obtained by a local newspaper documented widespread discrepancies in Detroit's 2016 general election vote tallies.

What's False
The discrepancy did not involve Detroit's recording more votes than registered voters, but rather precinct poll workers miscounting the number of people who voted.

FACT CHECK: More Votes than Voters in Detroit?
Snopes?

lol.

So since it was random mistakes, then Trump got roughly the same number of votes in his favor that Clinton did right?

ROFLMAO, no it all went to Clinton, but just randomly.
Huh? They corrected the mistakes before any final, certified tally.
Here were the discrepancies for Wagne County... same link...

Among the discrepancies found by Wayne County were:

77 precincts +1 vote
62 precincts +2 votes
37 precincts +3 votes
20 precincts +4 votes
52 precincts +5 or more votes
81 precincts -1 vote
29 precincts -2 votes
19 precincts -3 votes
7 precincts -4 votes
8 precincts -5 or more votes


So while elections officials in Detroit confirmed that voting irregularities involving excess vote counts existed, that issue was about inaccurate head counts taken by poll workers rather than fraud. The discrepancies mostly involved a handful of votes per precinct, and neither candidate was believed to have been favored by the errors.


Reports of equipment malfunctions in Michigan precincts were widely covered after the 8 November 2016 general election.




So according to election officials, the miscounts were not mostly for one candidate?

rolmao

Pardon me if I don't take their word for it, will ya? I'll bet that they were at least 90% in favor of Clinton, since she took 93% of the Detroit vote.

See what I did there? :D
 

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You guys are so myopic. Vote harvesting is a fact. Go into the old folks home, get great grandma to sign her name and then fill it out for her. Or find out who didn’t vote and pretend they showed up at 7 to cast their votes. There are so many ways to skew the vote, and now that we are allowing computer voting the sky is the limit.
 

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Probably the same reason Republicans who get caught doing it never learn
 

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Democrats have been losing the black vote for a while now.
Without replacements, or trickery / corruption, they have no chance.

Everyone knows this. Nothing new. Hence the cry for open borders and free shit for all.
The willful ignorance from the left is off the charts.
 
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