Zone1 Why Do Christians Have A Problem With All Dogs Go to Heaven?

[Carl in Michigan]

He's just upset because I proudly eat cheeseburgers and steak.

Like I said, not bright, but stupidly stubborn.
Off to ignore you go

 

[egp320i]

For even in real life I would assume that dogs and all animals go to Heaven just like babies since they can't make a conscious decision to follow Christ. At least that's what I and many other Christians believe.

Especially because in the Bible it talks about animals being in Heaven so why is the theology of this movie wrong? That's what I've seen and heard btw but it's one of my favorites. That and I do believe that the second one is underrated because I love that one too. It's really sad what happened to Judith Barsi though. Rest in peace little one. (I wasn't even born yet when that happened though.)


PS. For anybody who doesn't know, her father murdered her and her mother by shooting them to death and then shot himself.

Well it's a children's cartoon........reality there is no doggie or kitty heaven, animals don't have souls

it's cute kids think that way though until older and say, wait a minute......nah

 

[ChristisKing]

Well it's a children's cartoon........reality there is no doggie or kitty heaven, animals don't have souls

it's cute kids think that way though until older and say, wait a minute......nah

Are you serious or just being sarcastic?

 

[Cassandro]

For even in real life I would assume that dogs and all animals go to Heaven

How about fish?

 

[egp320i]

Are you serious or just being sarcastic?

serious, nothing suggest animals go anywhere with no soul

not horses, cats, dogs.......etc

nice idea when you go to heaven all you pets are there, it's not reality

imaging if you had 20 pets over your lifetime, heaven would be like a kennel

anything can be a pet.......a sheep

so all the lambs they slaughtered in the bible all went to heaven? what is the point

 

[gtopa1]

Like I said, not bright, but stupidly stubborn.
Off to ignore you go

#metoo please!! you're a waste of responses!!

Greg

 

[DennisPTate]

For even in real life I would assume that dogs and all animals go to Heaven just like babies since they can't make a conscious decision to follow Christ. At least that's what I and many other Christians believe.

Especially because in the Bible it talks about animals being in Heaven so why is the theology of this movie wrong? That's what I've seen and heard btw but it's one of my favorites. That and I do believe that the second one is underrated because I love that one too. It's really sad what happened to Judith Barsi though. Rest in peace little one. (I wasn't even born yet when that happened though.)


PS. For anybody who doesn't know, her father murdered her and her mother by shooting them to death and then shot himself.

Near death experiencer Robert Marshall was shown that his two horses and three little dogs had gone to heaven and were waiting for him and his wife to be there too.

[Near death experiencer Robert Marshall]

Question:

Will our Pets be in Heaven?

I am happy to say absolutely! Yes!
Those who read the book “44 HOURS IN HEAVEN” already know the answer and why I am so sure. For those who have not had the chance to read the book, I am excited to share how and why my answer is yes.

On May 19th, 2024, I died 3 times and went to Heaven each time I died. When I died the 2nd time, I went to Heaven instantly. Just like the first time I went to Heaven, I experienced the love and peace, the beauty, the smells in the air, and the feelings of being connected to everything and everyone and they were a welcoming familiarity of coming home.

Unlike the first time, I was standing at the edge of a beautiful field of tall grass that had the same beautiful trees scattered throughout. Looking to my left, in the far distance, I saw the inner courtyard and my dad was still there, but this time, my mom was there.

I looked around, still in amazement at how beautiful everything was, how magnificent and bright the colors were, how warm and loving the light, sounds, and smells that filled the air were, and how peaceful and calm it was.

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It was at this time I was treated to a surprise. Our pets that we love are in heaven!

Two horses and three dogs greeted me. The horses were Carol’s and mine; their names are Shakush and Nugget.

Shakush is a pure white Arabian who has the personality of a playful clown. He would get in the arena without Carol on his back and jump and play with her like a playful dog would do, except he was a horse and much larger, but just as gentle. Carol raised and trained Shakush herself and was the only person who rode him. Carol was and still is an excellent horseperson and rider. She glides when riding, and it is a thing of beauty to watch. When Carol and Shakush were both younger, she would show him at horse shows, and they often finished in the top 3. When Carol would ride him, he was always a perfect gentleman, and they would ride for hours in the arena and open fields. While running uphill on a trail he would buck, tossing his head in absolute joy. Regardless of the hill, the gait, or his mood, Carol could always brace herself for a joyful exuberant buck.

Nugget is a buckskin quarter horse and absolutely beautiful. She did not have the same personality as Shakush, but rather, she always acted very regal and gentle. Carol would ride Nugget, and on a rare occasion, she would share Nugget with me for a trail ride. Nugget was raised and trained by Carol just like Shakush. Both Shakush and Nugget were magnificent horses and were truly a gift and blessing from God.

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Three dogs greeted me with our two horses. Two of the dogs that greeted me are named Fudge 1 and Fudge 2 because they are dark brown and sweet, just like Fudge. We named all of our dogs Fudge, so we don’t get their name wrong when a new pet joins our family. There was a third dog that approached me in Heaven with the others, but I did not recognize her. I later learned the dog was named Annie and was Carol’s dog before we met.

Fudge 1 was a rescue dog that was a sweet little dog that would run and play his game of catch me. Of course, it was only when he decided to let us catch him that we were able to. Then he would cuddle up like the sweet dog he was. It was his way of playing.

Fudge 2 was used as a bait dog prior to our rescuing him. He wanted to be sweet and loving but had some prior issues as a result of his abuse before he became part of our family. There were times he would snap or have a flashback. It took a long time and a lot of love before he would trust us. However, he eventually did, and he turned out to be a sweet little boy. He would jump around like a kangaroo. He was unbelievably quick and would spring around like a bouncing ball. He still had flashbacks occasionally, back to when he was abused and treated so meanly. When this happened, it was as if he recognized what happened and was sorry for snapping at us, that was when we got the most loving and cuddling from him. Our best efforts did not erase his abuse on earth. In heaven he’s no longer like that. He is a happy puppy running and playing.

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The third dog's name was Annie. I didn’t know the third dog's name until I was out of the hospital and was telling Carol about going to Heaven and our pets being there. It was when I described the dog I did not recognize that she said it was her dog, Annie. Carol had Annie before I even knew her. Mystery solved.

We currently have a dog, and of course, that is Fudge 3. He is a spitting image of Fudge 2, only sweeter.

So, when I say that our pets are in Heaven, it is not just a hopeful desire; it is an eyewitness account. I saw our horses and dogs, and they were as happy as they could be, waiting for us to come home."
[Robert Marshall]

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My Walk With Jesus audio | 44 Hours In Heaven

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[egp320i]

Near death experiencer Robert Marshall was shown that his two horses and three little dogs had gone to heaven and were waiting for him and his wife to be there too.

really, how many times did he experience near death and not die?

so saddle ready to go so he can ride around in heaven in green fields?

wow, guess heaven is full of cowboys then......
can you buy a new Stetson too?

 

[DennisPTate]

really, how many times did he experience near death and not die?

so saddle ready to go so he can ride around in heaven in green fields?

wow, guess heaven is full of cowboys then......
can you buy a new Stetson too?

Robert Marshall flatlined for fifteen minutes and met his dad in heaven.....
then he flatlined for seventeen minutes and met his two horses and three little dogs in heaven.....
then he flatlined and was brain dead for another forty three hours and twenty eight minutes and Messiah Yeshua - Jesus mentored him and told him amazing details about what this life is really all about.

Until his 2024 near death experience he lived to play golf and had no background in theology so his book is amazing to me.

My Walk With Jesus audio | 44 Hours In Heaven

www.44hoursinheavenministries.org

 

[egp320i]

Robert Marshall flatlined for fifteen minutes and met his dad in heaven.....
then he flatlined for seventeen minutes and met his two horses and three little dogs in heaven.....
then he flatlined and was brain dead for another forty three hours and twenty eight minutes and Messiah Yeshua - Jesus mentored him and told him amazing details about what this life is really all about.

Until his 2024 near death experience he lived to play golf and had no background in theology so his book is amazing to me.

My Walk With Jesus audio | 44 Hours In Heaven

www.44hoursinheavenministries.org

his words, can't verify
nobody is that lucky to almost die that many times

wow, this guy needs to write the next final destination, he has experience!

 

[ChristisKing]

Off to ignore you go

I'm going on ignore for eating meat... Whatever.

Are you serious or just being sarcastic?

gtopa1 What's with the fake news for this post?

How about fish?

Sure, why not?

 

[egp320i]

@ Cristisking........

 

[gtopa1]

I'm going on ignore for eating meat... Whatever.



gtopa1 What's with the fake news for this post?




Sure, why not?

gtopa1 What's with the fake news for this post?

Whoops; double click by accident. Sorry 'bout that 99!!!

Greg

 

[MostBoringManInTheWorld]

Well, that's your religion.

You need to take it up with the people you agree with whom you don't agree with.

 

[luiza]

And that folks , is what is called the Cultist Cute Creation Story .
But it has successfully kept Cultists happy and content and therefore it does not seem a disastrously dangerous belief --- akin to adults telling kids about the Tooth Fairy .

So if Cultists wish to imagine a Heaven full of human and animal souls gambolling among never ending meadows , so be it .

But Consciousness and Eternity do not actually work like that .
Or so I suggest .

Chatting with a bearded guy who is bathed in a white light on a bright sunny day in never ending gardens filled with an abundance of plants and trees etc ---- all right for a day or two.
But for eternity .
ROFL

Although simple explanations for complex situations usually keep the masses quiet .

 

[SweetSue92]

For even in real life I would assume that dogs and all animals go to Heaven just like babies since they can't make a conscious decision to follow Christ. At least that's what I and many other Christians believe.

Especially because in the Bible it talks about animals being in Heaven so why is the theology of this movie wrong? That's what I've seen and heard btw but it's one of my favorites. That and I do believe that the second one is underrated because I love that one too. It's really sad what happened to Judith Barsi though. Rest in peace little one. (I wasn't even born yet when that happened though.)


PS. For anybody who doesn't know, her father murdered her and her mother by shooting them to death and then shot himself.

I don't believe "all dogs go to Heaven"....but to be fair, they're not punished in Hell either. Simply, they're not made in the image of God. God does love them, same as He loves all His creation. But they cannot earn the only way to Heaven....see my signature

 

[sparky]

the rational soul

.........oh dear!....... ~S~

 

[DennisPTate]

his words, can't verify
nobody is that lucky to almost die that many times

wow, this guy needs to write the next final destination, he has experience!

The Robert Marshall near death experience is one of the most shocking NDE's that I have ever read about.

I've been fascinated by NDE's since 1990 when they caused me to part ways with The Worldwide Church of God led by Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong.

Dead For 44 Hours, Jesus Showed Him STUNNING Heavenly Mysteries​

 

[DennisPTate]

And that folks , is what is called the Cultist Cute Creation Story .
But it has successfully kept Cultists happy and content and therefore it does not seem a disastrously dangerous belief --- akin to adults telling kids about the Tooth Fairy .

So if Cultists wish to imagine a Heaven full of human and animal souls gambolling among never ending meadows , so be it .

But Consciousness and Eternity do not actually work like that .
Or so I suggest .

Chatting with a bearded guy who is bathed in a white light on a bright sunny day in never ending gardens filled with an abundance of plants and trees etc ---- all right for a day or two.
But for eternity .
ROFL

Although simple explanations for complex situations usually keep the masses quiet .

Would it interest you to get involved in Applied Multiverse Theory where moments from the past are absolutely replicated.... but then a double portion of the Ruach ha Kodesh, The Holy Spirit is poured out on all flesh.... and totally new time lines are created?

To my thinking that is one of the implications of what near death experiencers are being shown about how our decisions now can affect the future?

3. A Successful Apocalyptic Prophecy is One That Doesn’t Happen​

The goal of apocalyptic prophecy is to warn people to prevent it from happening. The reason prophecies are given to humanity is to change current trends and change enough people so that the prophecy will be diverted. Well-known prophecies that were foretold to occur around the millennium have not happened. Skeptics point out that this proves these prophecies to be false. But a better understanding of prophecy reveals that either (a) or (b) is true:

(a) The prophecy was successful in permanently diverting the outcome by the raising of the world’s consciousness.

(b) Because the prophecy gives an exact date, the prophecy may still be valid and the date may be wrong.

Prophecies from very credible sources rarely give an exact date. Even Jesus said he didn’t know the date and time when he would return. This should be a lesson to everyone who comes across a prophecy with an exact date.

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Imagine another 1939.... but there is no Holocaust that follows in that other time line?

Dogs and cats and horses are like the unfallen angels who
come down here in their attempts to prepare us to attain the level of consciousness where we can enter paradise or heaven... as opposed to the other realms?

Thread 'Eventual Universal Salvation, Applied Multiverse Theory and "inexpressible and unlawful words" given to Paul.'

Apr 18, 2026

I know that when I die and I meet with the Being of Light of near death experience fame
I will answer for every word that I speak, and write, and what I feel that I must write at this
time is playing with fire.

What did the Apostle Paul mean by "heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter?"

I believe that finally in our time period a pretty good speculation can be pieced together that may well help to understand what Paul meant by this. I believe that Paul had a near death experience, [perhaps at the time that he had been stoned and "appeared to be dead." That...

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[luiza]

Would it interest you

No thanks .
I 100% respect your posts but reject the Multiverse thinking and put it alongside Flat Earth in terms of its validity .

Equally , I side with Clif High and others and believe that the Event Stream ( future ) can be changed / adjusted whereas the past ( time lines ) cannot .

I believe that discussion in this area can be extended indefinitely by the simple use of the " WHAT IF" process , and therefore I take the view that I am no longer interested UNLESS some new "Quantum twists " or facts come to light .
But thanks nevertheless .