Zone1 Why did Jesus insist that the commandments be observed?

[ding]

The afterlife can reach out to you. But you have to be able to see it.

Let's find out. Tell me all about the afterlife. What is it like?

 

[Hafar1014]

Let's find out. Tell me all about the afterlife. What is it like?

It comes into our lives. I already explained it go back and read it. We have spirit guides who protect us and guide us. They visit in dreams but they arent dreams. We can hear their voices. One saved my life.

 

[Woodznutz]

It is interesting how Christianity and Judaism essentially started from the same religious texts, but Christianity was created, taking a very different view of Jesus and the Afterlife. Then a few hundred years later, Mohammed "received" new texts from the Angel Gabriel and created Islam. Then a thousand years later Joseph Smith "received" yet another set of religious texts from the Angel Moroni and created Mormonism.

The angel "Moroni"?

 

[ding]

It comes into our lives. I already explained it go back and read it. We have spirit guides who protect us and guide us. They visit in dreams but they arent dreams. We can hear their voices. One saved my life.

That's not telling me anything about the afterlife. Tell me what the afterlife is like? Because according to you you experienced it, right?

I have had afterlife experiences

 

[Hafar1014]

That's not telling me anything about the afterlife. Tell me what the afterlife is like? Because according to you you experienced it, right?

Your mind is so concrete. It can come into our lives for a reason.

 

[Woodznutz]

When you say you want one religion, you mean one that believes Jesus was the Messiah, or son of Gd, or whatever?

Also, the reason I think Jesus had no intent to cause Jews to abandon Judaism is because he himself was a good Jew. No good Jew would do such a thing.

IMO.

His ministry to the Jews was limited and short lived ("he came to his own and his own received him not"). He was "sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

 

[ding]

Your mind is so concrete. It can come into our lives for a reason.

Says the guy who rejects Judaism teachings that choices have consequences both in this world and the next.

 

[TNHarley]

Youre not very good at critical thinking. Lame excuses yes

Its ok if you dont know sumerian history. No need to gaslight others for being more knowledgeable than you.

 

[Woodznutz]

Also, no loving Gd would doom people to hell because they don’t think a man who lived 2,000 years ago is his son.

Gd focuses on ACTIONS of people.

"Hell" is the grave, death. Man condemns himself to that, not God. Hell and death simply mean the end of a person's life, including their potential eternal life.

 

[Woodznutz]

Because they are good rules to live by?

They are the foundational principles of civilization.

 

[ding]

"Hell" is the grave, death. Man condemns himself to that, not God. Hell and death simply mean the end of a person's life, including their potential eternal life.

Judaism dances around the subject. The problem is they believe God will judge them and that there are no negative consequences from that judgement. Which effectively renders judgment moot. The logical conclusion to their beliefs are that people can do anything they want and there won't be any consequences in the afterlife. Despite claiming otherwise. They talk out of each side of the face.

Yes, Judaism strongly teaches that human beings are accountable to God for their actions. This concept of accountability, often tied to the principles of free will, divine justice, and the covenant (brit), is central to Jewish life, emphasizing that choices have consequences both in this world and the next.
Torah.org +2
Key aspects of Jewish teaching on accountability include:

• The Covenant and Commandments (Mitzvot): Judaism is a way of life built on taking responsibility through fulfilling commandments. These laws govern both ethical behavior toward others and rituals toward God, as explained by Reconstructing Judaism.
• Active Partnership: Accountability is not passive obedience; it is often described as partnering with God to shape the world and bring godliness into it.
  Reconstructing Judaism +1
• Divine Justice and Judgment: Judaism maintains that God is a "record keeper" who assesses actions, though this is often balanced with the understanding that God does not expect perfection but rather sincere effort.
  Reconstructing Judaism +1
• Repentance (Teshuvah): Accountability does not mean unavoidable punishment. Through teshuvah (returning/repathing), a person can fix errors, transform their life, and change their judgment.
  Reconstructing Judaism +4
• Ethical Obligation: The Torah requires correcting others regarding sins and insists on taking responsibility for actions, particularly those that wrong other people.
  Aish.com

While God is viewed as a just judge, Jewish tradition also emphasizes that God is compassionate and does not expect humans to be perfect, say Reconstructing Judaism.

 

[MarathonMike]

The angel "Moroni"?

Are you unfamiliar with the testimony of Joseph Smith?

 

[ding]

Are you unfamiliar with the testimony of Joseph Smith?

I am familiar with the testimony of Joseph Smith. Are you familiar with the testimony of Jesus Christ?

 

[Hafar1014]

Says the guy who rejects Judaism teachings that choices have consequences both in this world and the next.

Its ok if you dont know sumerian history. No need to gaslight others for being more knowledgeable than you.

You dont go look it up

 

[ding]

Your mind is so concrete. It can come into our lives for a reason.

Do you believe that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes in this life?

If not, why do you suppose that all behaviors would lead to equal outcomes in the afterlife?

 

[TNHarley]

You dont go look it up

ok, goober.
According to some Sumerian flood myths, Enlil (god of wind and storms) was annoyed by human noise and decided to destroy them with a flood. Enki (god of water and wisdom) secretly instructed a righteous man to build an ark to save his family and animals.
In Sumerian texts, it is portrayed as a garden-city where humans first learned to farm and serve the gods ancientoriginstours.com. The warning to “not eat of the food of death” in Eridu parallels the biblical Eden story, showing how the Sumerian myth influenced later traditions. The Sumerian Garden of Eden is a mythic concept rooted in ancient Mesopotamian religion, representing the divine paradise and the dawn of agriculture.
Ironically, these 2 stories are part of the Eridu GENESIS. LOL
To solve this, the god Enki (also called Ea in Akkadian) proposed creating humans to take over the labor. The mother goddess—often called Ninhursag (or a similar figure like Mami/Nintu)—then creates humans by mixing clay with the blood of a sacrificed god.

The more you know, boomer

 

[Lisa558]

"Hell" is the grave, death. Man condemns himself to that, not God. Hell and death simply mean the end of a person's life, including their potential eternal life.

Don’t be a silly boo-boo.

 

[ding]

Don’t be a silly boo-boo.

Do you believe all behaviors lead to equal outcomes?

Assuming you are reasonable and don't believe that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes, why would you assume it would be any different in the afterlife?

 

[ding]

ok, goober.
According to some Sumerian flood myths, Enlil (god of wind and storms) was annoyed by human noise and decided to destroy them with a flood. Enki (god of water and wisdom) secretly instructed a righteous man to build an ark to save his family and animals.
In Sumerian texts, it is portrayed as a garden-city where humans first learned to farm and serve the gods ancientoriginstours.com. The warning to “not eat of the food of death” in Eridu parallels the biblical Eden story, showing how the Sumerian myth influenced later traditions. The Sumerian Garden of Eden is a mythic concept rooted in ancient Mesopotamian religion, representing the divine paradise and the dawn of agriculture.
Ironically, these 2 stories are part of the Eridu GENESIS. LOL
To solve this, the god Enki (also called Ea in Akkadian) proposed creating humans to take over the labor. The mother goddess—often called Ninhursag (or a similar figure like Mami/Nintu)—then creates humans by mixing clay with the blood of a sacrificed god.

The more you know, boomer

Want to hear my answer? Again?

Do you believe all behaviors lead to equal outcomes?

 

[BreezeWood]

Because his intent was never to start a new religion, just instill Jewish values.

the 1st century repudiation of judaism is the springboard for its eventual collapse in 70ce - as is the warning from jesus for them to mend their ways by removing the false commandments madeup by the liar moses and all other such commands not bearing any semblance to the heavens they failed to heed.