Why can't conservatives/GOP learn from history?

obama lost MILLIONS OF JOBS over and above what was lost under Bush; before things started to get better. and they started to get better when there more Republicans elected to Congress


Yep, Dubya lost 10 million jobs his last couple years, Obama lost 4 million his first 9 months of inheriting Dubya's economy. But electing Repugs got the economy going again? lol. PLEASE give me bills they passed that did it? lol


i can give you the bills obama passed that were Republican bills; like THE BUSH TAX CUTS; ALL OF THEM, IDIOT, EVEN FOR THE HIGHEST BRACKETS. OBAMA EXTENDED THEM, even though he still had Dem majorities in BOTH chambers of Congress. then he made 98% OF THEM PERMANENT

thanks for playing though idiot

So NO, you can't give me a law the GOP passed that CHANGED to help the economy. All smoke and mirrors like usual with YOU Bubs


i'm the one useing smoke and mirrors idiot?

why cant i just name all the policies DEMS VOTED TO CONTINUE?

WANT THE LIST?

you MUST HAVE liked them right since you VOTED FOR THEM AND CONTINUED THEM AFTER HE WAS GONE
 
i gave that idiot left-wing idiot about 10 examples of policies the right was on the "correct side on in history" yesterday

he cowardly deflected


BZZZ nope, sorry Bubba, conflating party with ideology when parties have switched several times the past 150 years, doesn't cut it!
Hint YES, you listed PROGRESSIVES giving blacks the right to vote and OTHER progressive ideas. Conservatives? They fought it, mostly the CONservative CONfederate States ofAmeriKKKa, today's GOP base!


this is just you being a coward. they were democrats you moron; democrats through and through that were lynching black people left and right, there was no liberal wing of the Democrat Party that opposed the lynchings of black people.
and Republican "PROGRESSIVES" WERE THE ONES THAT AGREED WITH LEFT-WING PROGRESSIVES ON ISSUES LIKE EUGENICS.

you're a loser lying to himself

Good boy, sticking with party label versus ideology Bubba


HINT: CONservative CONfederate States of AmeriKKKa was NEVER known as a bastion of liberal ideology. Conservatives however? lol
 
obama lost MILLIONS OF JOBS over and above what was lost under Bush; before things started to get better. and they started to get better when there more Republicans elected to Congress


Yep, Dubya lost 10 million jobs his last couple years, Obama lost 4 million his first 9 months of inheriting Dubya's economy. But electing Repugs got the economy going again? lol. PLEASE give me bills they passed that did it? lol


republican OBSTRUCTION contributed to the recovery dullard

you didnt think we had to run from that did you?

lol
obama and dems wanted to spend HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS MORE then they ended up spending

now isnt that right?


No
 
"BUSH POLICIES" DEMS VOTED FOR WHILE BUSH WAS IN OFFICE AND CONTINUED AFTER HE WAS GONE:


funding both wars
made 98% of th the bush tax cuts PERMANENT
PATRIOT ACT
NO-CHILD LEFT BEHIND
i can go on leftard....................
 
and let's bring back the WELFARE REFORM from the clinton years that obama GUTTED!!

nevermind you Progs say "welfare and unemployment save or create jobs"!1

it isnt supply-side to SLASH WELFARE LIKE CLINTON DID!!


I'VE NEVER BLOCKED ANYONE BEFORE BUBBA, ON ANY FORUM I'VE EVER BEEN ON. Congrats your inability to EVER bring even a lil something to the table makes you unique even in the world of low informed conservative reactionaries on these forums!

BY
 
obama lost MILLIONS OF JOBS over and above what was lost under Bush; before things started to get better. and they started to get better when there more Republicans elected to Congress


Yep, Dubya lost 10 million jobs his last couple years, Obama lost 4 million his first 9 months of inheriting Dubya's economy. But electing Repugs got the economy going again? lol. PLEASE give me bills they passed that did it? lol


republican OBSTRUCTION contributed to the recovery dullard

you didnt think we had to run from that did you?

lol
obama and dems wanted to spend HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS MORE then they ended up spending

now isnt that right?


No

then you jackasses were LYING when you cried about filibusters and "obstruction' of your "jobs bills"?

cant have it both ways you sad pathetic loser; no matter how fast you reply with another talking point
 
and let's bring back the WELFARE REFORM from the clinton years that obama GUTTED!!

nevermind you Progs say "welfare and unemployment save or create jobs"!1

it isnt supply-side to SLASH WELFARE LIKE CLINTON DID!!


I'VE NEVER BLOCKED ANYONE BEFORE BUBBA, ON ANY FORUM I'VE EVER BEEN ON. Congrats your inability to EVER bring even a lil something to the table makes you unique even in the world of low informed conservative reactionaries on these forums!

BY


talking about the Party you have rabid fealty to dummy

try again
 
YAWN
i dont know why you keep crying dad2; you made yourself crystal clear; Whether or not supply-side economics is in effect all boils down the the absurdly narrow definition of what direction income taxes are moving, and just the very top bracket of income taxes no less.

it's time for me to move on now ok. you're simply a joke to me; contradicting yourself dozens of ways, multiple times. i cant take you seriously no matter how self-impressed you are ok? so you can have the last word! ;)
 
Why can't conservatives/GOP learn from history?

Why is it the current base of the conservatives/GOP "believes" the nonsense that comes from Faux "News", Rushblo, Insanitty, Beck, etc?

When did "believing" in ignorance, stupidity or lies become a asset or something to have pride in?

It's pretty simple to list the things that the right "believes", whether it's based in a lie or just a fetish with their Randian cult?

Lies like:

Obama is a socialist

Tax cuts bring in more revenues (yes Virginia there are 2 sides to Laffers curve!!)

Increasing min wage will destroy the US economy, however tax cuts for the "job creators" will boom an economy?

Regulations are the reason jobs left America (not tax policy REWARDING the FOREIGN job creator and "free trade")?

Taxes are to high (especially on the "job creators" (even if the effective rate on the top 1/10th of 1% of US who alone get over 50% of capital gains and dividends in America each year is about 1/3rd it was 1945-1980)

We CAN deport ALL "illegal" immigrants"

A wall will keep people out of the US (just like it keeps drugs and cell phones out of prisons!!!)



At what point will the low informed (generally from the right side), accept that the US isn't a household and can't be run like a Biz OR household? The US and most things in politics are not simple, and can not be answered with bumper sticker answers (Palin, Trump, etc). They are complex, multi leveled areas.

When will the right accept he US Gov't has been captured by special interests and Corporate influence? And no you libertarian fetishes don't have the answer as NO nation/state has EVER been run on your fetish BS. The US Founders tried the "limited fed Gov't" thing with the Articles of Confederation remember? Hint TOTAL failure!


Time for right wingers (GOP party) to go back to being a party built on honesty and facts. Give up the BILLIONS of dollars spent on groups like AEI, Heritage, CATO, CofC, ETC, whose sole purpose is to reward the very top of the 1%. It's truly pathetic there are soooooo many right wingers who will not even accept REALITY and instead call ANY MSM report or link, propaganda, but "believe" the right wing propaganda mills? lol

When Trump, Palin, Cruz, etc are taken for serious people, there is something seriously wrong with your ability to either critically think or be honest. Which?


History has shown the "conservative movement" has been on the wrong side of history on almost every important US policy since the US founding! PLEASE show me where I'm wrong about this?
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Why can't conservatives/GOP learn from history?

Why is it the current base of the conservatives/GOP "believes" the nonsense that comes from Faux "News", Rushblo, Insanitty, Beck, etc?

When did "believing" in ignorance, stupidity or lies become a asset or something to have pride in?

It's pretty simple to list the things that the right "believes", whether it's based in a lie or just a fetish with their Randian cult?

Lies like:

Obama is a socialist

Tax cuts bring in more revenues (yes Virginia there are 2 sides to Laffers curve!!)

Increasing min wage will destroy the US economy, however tax cuts for the "job creators" will boom an economy?

Regulations are the reason jobs left America (not tax policy REWARDING the FOREIGN job creator and "free trade")?

Taxes are to high (especially on the "job creators" (even if the effective rate on the top 1/10th of 1% of US who alone get over 50% of capital gains and dividends in America each year is about 1/3rd it was 1945-1980)

We CAN deport ALL "illegal" immigrants"

A wall will keep people out of the US (just like it keeps drugs and cell phones out of prisons!!!)



At what point will the low informed (generally from the right side), accept that the US isn't a household and can't be run like a Biz OR household? The US and most things in politics are not simple, and can not be answered with bumper sticker answers (Palin, Trump, etc). They are complex, multi leveled areas.

When will the right accept he US Gov't has been captured by special interests and Corporate influence? And no you libertarian fetishes don't have the answer as NO nation/state has EVER been run on your fetish BS. The US Founders tried the "limited fed Gov't" thing with the Articles of Confederation remember? Hint TOTAL failure!


Time for right wingers (GOP party) to go back to being a party built on honesty and facts. Give up the BILLIONS of dollars spent on groups like AEI, Heritage, CATO, CofC, ETC, whose sole purpose is to reward the very top of the 1%. It's truly pathetic there are soooooo many right wingers who will not even accept REALITY and instead call ANY MSM report or link, propaganda, but "believe" the right wing propaganda mills? lol

When Trump, Palin, Cruz, etc are taken for serious people, there is something seriously wrong with your ability to either critically think or be honest. Which?


History has shown the "conservative movement" has been on the wrong side of history on almost every important US policy since the US founding! PLEASE show me where I'm wrong about this?

If those who become politicians were capable of learning from history they wouldn't have gone into politics. :)
 
Despite the collapse of the Soviet Union, the failures of Castro's Cuba, and China's slow but inexorable movement away from a centrally planned economy toward a market economy, liberals have not learned from history and still believe socialism/marxism works.
Yeah, you name one liberal that supports a state run totalitarian economy and any aspects of marxism. Social democracies aren't marxist by the way.

Nope, and they aren't economic powerhouses either! The reason for that? Because they are Social democracies!

Who here wants to look like Europe, signify with a "I do, I do."

If Europe was sooooooooooooo wonderful, why they never would have come here, now would they. Did you see all those Americans going over to Europe in the 40s, 50s, and 60s? No, why not? Oh wait, I am wrong, forgive me-( We actually DID see a lot of Americans going over to Europe; American soldiers, to save Europes ass from European born NAZISM, FACISM, and COMMUNISM.

And what did Europe send to us as their gift? Why Fabian Socialism, the degrowth movement known far and wide as environmentalism, the welfare state, outrageous taxes, and out of sight fuel prices. And what is the NUMBER ONE argument that lefties use for these policies? "Europe does it, and so should we." See, FABIAN SOCIALISM. I know it, they know it, but better yet, YOU know it. And if you allow these idiots to turn us into Europe, then welcome to the end of the grand experiment that kicked everyones rearend, and now we can be like........oh I don't know, lets pick one...........France. Polly-vu-screw-you- lefties.
FABIAN SOCIALISM?

Where do you people dredge this stuff up from? gawd, who talks about that shit in the real world outside of FOX News?
 
Why can't conservatives/GOP learn from history?

Why is it the current base of the conservatives/GOP "believes" the nonsense that comes from Faux "News", Rushblo, Insanitty, Beck, etc?

When did "believing" in ignorance, stupidity or lies become a asset or something to have pride in?

It's pretty simple to list the things that the right "believes", whether it's based in a lie or just a fetish with their Randian cult?

Lies like:

Obama is a socialist

Tax cuts bring in more revenues (yes Virginia there are 2 sides to Laffers curve!!)

Increasing min wage will destroy the US economy, however tax cuts for the "job creators" will boom an economy?

Regulations are the reason jobs left America (not tax policy REWARDING the FOREIGN job creator and "free trade")?

Taxes are to high (especially on the "job creators" (even if the effective rate on the top 1/10th of 1% of US who alone get over 50% of capital gains and dividends in America each year is about 1/3rd it was 1945-1980)

We CAN deport ALL "illegal" immigrants"

A wall will keep people out of the US (just like it keeps drugs and cell phones out of prisons!!!)



At what point will the low informed (generally from the right side), accept that the US isn't a household and can't be run like a Biz OR household? The US and most things in politics are not simple, and can not be answered with bumper sticker answers (Palin, Trump, etc). They are complex, multi leveled areas.

When will the right accept he US Gov't has been captured by special interests and Corporate influence? And no you libertarian fetishes don't have the answer as NO nation/state has EVER been run on your fetish BS. The US Founders tried the "limited fed Gov't" thing with the Articles of Confederation remember? Hint TOTAL failure!


Time for right wingers (GOP party) to go back to being a party built on honesty and facts. Give up the BILLIONS of dollars spent on groups like AEI, Heritage, CATO, CofC, ETC, whose sole purpose is to reward the very top of the 1%. It's truly pathetic there are soooooo many right wingers who will not even accept REALITY and instead call ANY MSM report or link, propaganda, but "believe" the right wing propaganda mills? lol

When Trump, Palin, Cruz, etc are taken for serious people, there is something seriously wrong with your ability to either critically think or be honest. Which?


History has shown the "conservative movement" has been on the wrong side of history on almost every important US policy since the US founding! PLEASE show me where I'm wrong about this?

If those who become politicians were capable of learning from history they wouldn't have gone into politics. :)

if members who post at usmb were capable of learning from history...

:eusa_whistle:
 
Why can't conservatives/GOP learn from history?

Why is it the current base of the conservatives/GOP "believes" the nonsense that comes from Faux "News", Rushblo, Insanitty, Beck, etc?

When did "believing" in ignorance, stupidity or lies become a asset or something to have pride in?

It's pretty simple to list the things that the right "believes", whether it's based in a lie or just a fetish with their Randian cult?

Lies like:

Obama is a socialist

Tax cuts bring in more revenues (yes Virginia there are 2 sides to Laffers curve!!)

Increasing min wage will destroy the US economy, however tax cuts for the "job creators" will boom an economy?

Regulations are the reason jobs left America (not tax policy REWARDING the FOREIGN job creator and "free trade")?

Taxes are to high (especially on the "job creators" (even if the effective rate on the top 1/10th of 1% of US who alone get over 50% of capital gains and dividends in America each year is about 1/3rd it was 1945-1980)

We CAN deport ALL "illegal" immigrants"

A wall will keep people out of the US (just like it keeps drugs and cell phones out of prisons!!!)



At what point will the low informed (generally from the right side), accept that the US isn't a household and can't be run like a Biz OR household? The US and most things in politics are not simple, and can not be answered with bumper sticker answers (Palin, Trump, etc). They are complex, multi leveled areas.

When will the right accept he US Gov't has been captured by special interests and Corporate influence? And no you libertarian fetishes don't have the answer as NO nation/state has EVER been run on your fetish BS. The US Founders tried the "limited fed Gov't" thing with the Articles of Confederation remember? Hint TOTAL failure!


Time for right wingers (GOP party) to go back to being a party built on honesty and facts. Give up the BILLIONS of dollars spent on groups like AEI, Heritage, CATO, CofC, ETC, whose sole purpose is to reward the very top of the 1%. It's truly pathetic there are soooooo many right wingers who will not even accept REALITY and instead call ANY MSM report or link, propaganda, but "believe" the right wing propaganda mills? lol

When Trump, Palin, Cruz, etc are taken for serious people, there is something seriously wrong with your ability to either critically think or be honest. Which?


History has shown the "conservative movement" has been on the wrong side of history on almost every important US policy since the US founding! PLEASE show me where I'm wrong about this?

If those who become politicians were capable of learning from history they wouldn't have gone into politics. :)

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Despite the collapse of the Soviet Union, the failures of Castro's Cuba, and China's slow but inexorable movement away from a centrally planned economy toward a market economy, liberals have not learned from history and still believe socialism/marxism works.
Yeah, you name one liberal that supports a state run totalitarian economy and any aspects of marxism. Social democracies aren't marxist by the way.

Nope, and they aren't economic powerhouses either! The reason for that? Because they are Social democracies!

Who here wants to look like Europe, signify with a "I do, I do."

If Europe was sooooooooooooo wonderful, why they never would have come here, now would they. Did you see all those Americans going over to Europe in the 40s, 50s, and 60s? No, why not? Oh wait, I am wrong, forgive me-( We actually DID see a lot of Americans going over to Europe; American soldiers, to save Europes ass from European born NAZISM, FACISM, and COMMUNISM.

And what did Europe send to us as their gift? Why Fabian Socialism, the degrowth movement known far and wide as environmentalism, the welfare state, outrageous taxes, and out of sight fuel prices. And what is the NUMBER ONE argument that lefties use for these policies? "Europe does it, and so should we." See, FABIAN SOCIALISM. I know it, they know it, but better yet, YOU know it. And if you allow these idiots to turn us into Europe, then welcome to the end of the grand experiment that kicked everyones rearend, and now we can be like........oh I don't know, lets pick one...........France. Polly-vu-screw-you- lefties.
FABIAN SOCIALISM?

Where do you people dredge this stuff up from? gawd, who talks about that shit in the real world outside of FOX News?


Well Dante, you must understand that SOME people actually like history, study history, and most of all........understand history; and the effect that history has on the present. Listening to Fox has nothing to do with it, since the only thing I watch on Fox is NFL football games.

I will post a link to what Fabian Socialism actually was/is in America. You don't have to agree, or disagree since I am actually posting it for other readers.

Why in the world you brought back a post from over a month ago I made is beyond me; but if you want to discuss Fabian Socialism, let me know. I am not an expert on it, but I have read up on it extensively, and its affects upon the past, and obviously what it has done to the present day.

progressingamerica: Who founded Fabian Socialism in the United States?
 
what is happening RIGHT NOW will soon be history.

it is important that normal people as well as left-wing nutjobs remember and LEARN FROM HISTORY that under Obama and Progressive rule THE RICHEST GOT RICHER AND THE POOREST GOT POORER; both AT A FASTER PACE UNDER PROGRESSIVES THEN UNDER RIGHT-WING GOVERNANCE



dont you want people to learn their lessons leftardz???
 

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