Who is getting hurt and what we are losing with what Trump and Musk are doing!

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I have been the person taking care of others more often than not ... Gladly!

You wouldn't understand that because you cannot distinguish between altruism and false altruism ...
You actually think you are a good person because you pull a lever on election day ...
So who you elect can do wonderful things spending other peoples' money.

Precisely because you couldn't accomplish what you want ... Then want to excuse the fraud, waste and corruption you vote for ...
All in attempts to feel better about yourself.​

You could not be more wrong about this even if you tried.

Let me ONCE again state the following: There is absolutely nothing that Trump can do that will personally affect ME. I am economically set for the rest of my life and as it is, the rest of my life" likely means just a few years. In fact, I am having a spine surgery in March that may end it then.

In addition, I am a very, very unselfish person as I have done and accomplished all my personal goals in life and I live for others now (not for myself). I have been ready to die for years now. I don't fear death at all. I live to help others.

Oh, please ... Don't act like you can tell me anything ... I know a lot of people like you.
You don't have the wherewithal to guess anything about me ...
It's
best you worry about yourself ... :auiqs.jpg:
You don't know anyone like me. In my life, I have only met a few people like me (and I have met thousands of people, given that I was a salesman). I truly care about others and few do. You certainly have not shown that in any of your posts (previous post where you said you don't care is a perfect example)

You are just a BS artist

Try to make it personal ...
And will have no problem beating you to death with your own words and ideas

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You could not be more wrong about this even if you tried.

Let me ONCE again state the following: There is absolutely nothing that Trump can do that will personally affect ME. I am economically set for the rest of my life and as it is, the rest of my life" likely means just a few years. In fact, I am having a spine surgery in March that may end it then.

In addition, I am a very, very unselfish person as I have done and accomplished all my personal goals in life and I live for others now (not for myself). I have been ready to die for years now. I don't fear death at all. I live to help others.

You don't know anyone like me. In my life, I have only met a few people like me (and I have met thousands of people, given that I was a salesman). I truly care about others and few do. You certainly have not shown that in any of your posts (previous post where you said you don't care is a perfect example)

You are just a BS artist
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Yeah ... Tell yourself whatever you need to ... I didn't even read it.
You're like an open book ... I've tried having a civil conversation with you before.

I gave up when I realized you weren't interested in that.
Save it for someone who may care ... You don't have to tell me about your life ...
And I will keep mine out of it with you.

Your ideas ... Really suck.
Your motivations ... They suck even more.
Stick with those ... I am not interested in beating you up personally.

That would be too easy ...
And I am more interested in tearing down your ideas regarding politics or society in general.

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Im just amused by the idea of you slowly dying in a bed. You deserve that fate. The more people like you die, the better off our country will be.
Great post of yours..............wishing death upon someone else. Speaks loudly as to who you are.

Having said that, you just proved how much of a waste of time you are. You have nothing to offer in any way. I can get more benefit from looking at paint dry than reading your posts.

You are now #48 on my ignore list.

I must say that I am in awe of this website. I am (and have been) on 5 other political boards for the past 8 years and never have I put so many people on ignore for being a total waste of time. I love to debate and having a debate is always about talking to a person with opposite views to mine. I welcome that with open arms as debating is gaining knowledge and that is what I seek

There is no knowledge to be gained from people that all they do is this

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The one redeeming aspect of what Teump is doing, is that he has been forced to back down on so,e of it, and the courts have taken care of much of the rest.

in reality, Trump and Musk are putting on a show for Trump’s cult followers.

These people believe whatever comes out ofhis mouth (aor defend it anyway).

It’s mostly designed to appeal o old parochial and racist tropes.

It’s clear that Musk’s DOGE hit aqua are only really looking around for names of programs or agencies that they can attack, and feeding the claims out on X, to a low information easily conned audience.

It’s noise, designed to present the appearance of ¥shaking things up.

The target audience doesn’t know the difference, and doesn’t really care, as long as they’re entertained.
I'm afraid you are in panic mode, such is the case as Trump and Musk have exposed the real sleaze and illegality that is the de.ocrat party, the "Party of theft and corruption" as shown with the revelations of fraud and abuse with USAID.
 
Having said that, you just proved how much of a waste of time you are.
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I love it when people like you post shit like that ... And you just keep going ...
Making anything you meant in what you posted meaningless.

But ... You couldn't stop yourself ...
You had to type it ... Because it's who you really are ... :auiqs.jpg:


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The one redeeming aspect of what Teump is doing, is that he has been forced to back down on so,e of it, and the courts have taken care of much of the rest.

in reality, Trump and Musk are putting on a show for Trump’s cult followers.

These people believe whatever comes out ofhis mouth (aor defend it anyway).

It’s mostly designed to appeal o old parochial and racist tropes.

It’s clear that Musk’s DOGE hit aqua are only really looking around for names of programs or agencies that they can attack, and feeding the claims out on X, to a low information easily conned audience.

It’s noise, designed to present the appearance of ¥shaking things up.

The target audience doesn’t know the difference, and doesn’t really care, as long as they’re entertained.
It's hard being irrelevant now, isn't it
 
Every action in life has benefits and consequences and the bottom line is that the goal is to always have more benefits than consequences, so the nation and its people can advance and not recede (two steps forward and 1 back rather than the opposite). This OP is going to discuss who is getting hurt and if the consequences of Trump's actions will end up being a plus or a minus for our country.

What Trump has been doing it trying to keep his campaign promises and as such, he is having a 53% approval rating for doing that. Keeping campaign promises is never a bad thing because it is what he was elected to do. Having said that, the way he does that and what the end result ends up being is what is going to make this nation better or worse.

Let me start with this one piece of common sense. Doing a lot of harm to others is never a plus.


In addition, his shutdown of USAID not only removes jobs from thousands of Americans but removes aid from the poor, sick, and needy in the world.

The plus to all of this is a reduction in spending. This hopefully means less debt but the way that Trump is doing it also means the following:

1) less Americans working
2) less taxes being collected
3) less people receiving the needed help to stay alive
4) more Americans needing help
5) more American companies losing the income they need to stay in business
6) more chaos and less order
7) allies becoming enemies
8) hate and payback feelings increased, bringing new problems

Yes, some of the promises made fulfill a need that the nation has but the way that Trump and Musk are going about fulfilling those promises is by using a sledgehammer approach and that is never a plus. Destroying things that have been in effect for decades and offer good and needed things but are full of "fat", is not the way to go. You trim the fat and put them on a diet but you don't blow them away and start from scratch.

That is a recipe for disaster

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My biggest accusation against Trump has always been incompetency. He has tried many things in life but with the exceptions of the things his father taught him from a young age (Real Estate and scamming people), Trump has been a disaster. He does not learn from his mistakes because he is a narcissist and always blames others for his own mistakes.

Musk has been a highly successful businessman all his life but it has always been in things he had an interest in and spent time learning about. Nonetheless, his ego has grown to such a degree that he is no longer spending the time to learn new things (such as what governing needs and requires, and what being in a business he has never been in, like social media needs and requires).

He bought Twitter in October of last year and made huge changes (the same he is trying to do now), and now 4 months later, Twitter (as X) has lost 79% in value, has lost most of its income (advertisers have left) and has lost viewership as the changes he made to the media itself, are not liked by the viewers.

Both of these people are making huge changes and are not thinking about the consequences of what they are doing and what possibly was a good thing is now looking like a disaster-in-the-making.

Amen
Try switching to decaf.
 
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I love it when people like you post shit like that ... And you just keep going ...
Making anything you meant in what you posted meaningless.

But ... You couldn't stop yourself ...
You had to type it ... Because it's who you really are ... :auiqs.jpg:


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Hey, I am a fighter. If slapped, I slap back.

Having said that, I truly don't like being in a slap war. It does not solve anything, words are cheap (free actually) and the direction is always down toward the gutter.

I do have to say that in your case, I had a positive impression of you when we first communicated. Nonetheless, I still remember the post that showed you to be who you are (a bullshit artist/conman) and I lost all respect for you. You continue to prove it.
 
Fascism is a political party STEALING taxpayer dollars under false pretenses or making taxpayers pay for their pet projects.
In terms of the ''greater good,'' there really is no so-called ''collective,'' though it is often invoked in the name of enriching special interests and lobbyists.

Could go into that much deeper...
 
The United States is a republic, made up of democracies.

Technically it is a compound republic. You have the central, federal republic and then you have the states being the state republics and holding the most power.

''A democracy'' is an antithetical form of government to ''a republic.''

"Democracy'' itself, on the other hand, is a popular type governance and a function/feature of ''a republic.''

People get lost and confused about the meaning of ''democracy'' versus ''a democracy.''

And it always shows in dialogue which follows.

As well, both ''a direct democracy'' and '' a representative democracy'' are antithetical to ''a republic.''

The primary foundation of both are rule by omnipotent majority.
 
Every action in life has benefits and consequences and the bottom line is that the goal is to always have more benefits than consequences, so the nation and its people can advance and not recede (two steps forward and 1 back rather than the opposite). This OP is going to discuss who is getting hurt and if the consequences of Trump's actions will end up being a plus or a minus for our country.

What Trump has been doing it trying to keep his campaign promises and as such, he is having a 53% approval rating for doing that. Keeping campaign promises is never a bad thing because it is what he was elected to do. Having said that, the way he does that and what the end result ends up being is what is going to make this nation better or worse.

Let me start with this one piece of common sense. Doing a lot of harm to others is never a plus.


In addition, his shutdown of USAID not only removes jobs from thousands of Americans but removes aid from the poor, sick, and needy in the world.

The plus to all of this is a reduction in spending. This hopefully means less debt but the way that Trump is doing it also means the following:

1) less Americans working
2) less taxes being collected
3) less people receiving the needed help to stay alive
4) more Americans needing help
5) more American companies losing the income they need to stay in business
6) more chaos and less order
7) allies becoming enemies
8) hate and payback feelings increased, bringing new problems

Yes, some of the promises made fulfill a need that the nation has but the way that Trump and Musk are going about fulfilling those promises is by using a sledgehammer approach and that is never a plus. Destroying things that have been in effect for decades and offer good and needed things but are full of "fat", is not the way to go. You trim the fat and put them on a diet but you don't blow them away and start from scratch.

That is a recipe for disaster

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My biggest accusation against Trump has always been incompetency. He has tried many things in life but with the exceptions of the things his father taught him from a young age (Real Estate and scamming people), Trump has been a disaster. He does not learn from his mistakes because he is a narcissist and always blames others for his own mistakes.

Musk has been a highly successful businessman all his life but it has always been in things he had an interest in and spent time learning about. Nonetheless, his ego has grown to such a degree that he is no longer spending the time to learn new things (such as what governing needs and requires, and what being in a business he has never been in, like social media needs and requires).

He bought Twitter in October of last year and made huge changes (the same he is trying to do now), and now 4 months later, Twitter (as X) has lost 79% in value, has lost most of its income (advertisers have left) and has lost viewership as the changes he made to the media itself, are not liked by the viewers.

Both of these people are making huge changes and are not thinking about the consequences of what they are doing and what possibly was a good thing is now looking like a disaster-in-the-making.

Amen
Why did you leave out the hundreds of billions being saved and the graft and corrupt that is being unmasked?
 
In order to maintain some semblance of credibility, you really should address the reality that USAID is being merged into the State Department, where its worthy programs will continue functioning. What will not continue are things like teaching clowns to tie balloon animals. When you plug that reality into the equation, all of a sudden the needle moves a great deal into positive territory.

Agreed, but ''worthy'' is a matter of opinion and equally benificial to special interests. The neo-cons are gonna continue funding their foreign endeavors/interests at the barrel of a government gun.
 
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Don't forget to add that we are not going to continue to use FEMA funds to the tune of $59 million a week ...
To house illegal immigrants at Pakistanis owned hotels in New York ...
When we could actually spend the money allocated for Disaster Relief on Americans in North Carolina after a hurricane.

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Unacknowledged irony...

 
The standard congressional approach to dealing with waste abuse and corruption has been for a congresscritter or two to publicly declare that wasteful spending is doubleplus ungood and they are going to tackle it. With great fanfare, they form a committee composed of a few accountant types and multiple congresscritters to provide oversight, basically making sure they don't touch anything the critters deem important because reasons. The committee goes dark for a few months to a few years, doing things only they know they are doing, then quietly announces a few token items that should be pared from the budget before disbanding and disappearing into the night, never to do anything again. Naturally, the congresscritters wax ecstatic that they can now claim to be budget hawks, even though, thanks to their continuous oversight, the committee accomplished nothing of note and nothing ever actually gets eliminated.

That won't play anymore. Congress has had way more than enough time to handle things delicately and bring the budget into line and has consistently failed. It's time for the sledgehammer. The pinata is pretty, swinging in the breeze, but needs to be opened to get at the treats inside and the democrats would have us use fingernail clippers to open it.

Congress has historically been derelict and kicked everything over to the courts.

That's a big part of the problem.
 
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Hey, I am a fighter. If slapped, I slap back.
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The slap would sting more ... If you didn't try to pull it back by saying it was a waste of time.
So what you are really saying is that you want to fight ... But cannot get past pussy-footing around ...
Thinking you are somehow gaining ground.

I keep telling you ... It's not a good look ...
And you kind of wear it like a 400-pound chick in a pair of yoga pants ... :auiqs.jpg:



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I forgot to mention she looks really pissed off ...
And she's probably trying to blame the yoga pants.

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Great post of yours..............wishing death upon someone else. Speaks loudly as to who you are.

Having said that, you just proved how much of a waste of time you are. You have nothing to offer in any way. I can get more benefit from looking at paint dry than reading your posts.

You are now #48 on my ignore list.

I must say that I am in awe of this website. I am (and have been) on 5 other political boards for the past 8 years and never have I put so many people on ignore for being a total waste of time. I love to debate and having a debate is always about talking to a person with opposite views to mine. I welcome that with open arms as debating is gaining knowledge and that is what I seek

There is no knowledge to be gained from people that all they do is this

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If you have the nerve to question anothers posters ability to have loved ones at his side in a time of need, then yeah, you get the motherfuckin stick and i wont feel the slightest bit bad about it. :dunno:
 
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The slap would sting more ... If you didn't try to pull it back by saying it was a waste of time.
So what you are really saying is that you want to fight ... But cannot get past pussy-footing around ...
Thinking you are somehow gaining ground.

I keep telling you ... It's not a good look ...
And you kind of wear it like a 400-pound chick in a pair of yoga pants ... :auiqs.jpg:

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