Who is getting hurt and what we are losing with what Trump and Musk are doing!

[Lesh]

Obama didn't put a stop to it, economic factors did. People stopped buying expensive gas and cut back on their driving. Lack of demand forced the prices to fall as it always does.

Bullshit. Obama issued an EO dictation that oil had to physically be on one’s possession before it could be resold.

Speculators were foiled and the price dropped

Educate yourself

 

[Lesh]

Ohhh, now youre going to try to sell us the absurd lie that the multi billionaire two time president who flies around the world in a golden 737, is unsuccessful? Shut your goofy ass up.

He’s a very successful grifter

 

[Godboy]

He’s a very successful grifter

You are a weak debater. Try harder next time.

 

[jc456]

No, there is one thing that I will say about Trump that is good FOR HIS ABILITIES. He is a very successful con artist. Look how many people (including you) have bought his bullshit

Trump could be the most successful con artist in American history​

the irony of that statement far exceeds your post.

 

[jc456]

He’s a very successful grifter

president twice now.

 

[BlackSand]

No, there is one thing that I will say about Trump that is good FOR HIS ABILITIES. He is a very successful con artist. Look how many people (including you) have bought his bullshit

Trump could be the most successful con artist in American history​

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Really ... What's it like when your arguments just evaporate all around you.
I don't think you get it ... The People have finally 'got a bone' ... And they're not going to let go.

Face it ... Your bullshit has been proven to fail, got us where we are at ... Provided us with President Trump ...
And you can blame yourself as much as anyone else for that ...

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[justoffal]

Every action in life has benefits and consequences and the bottom line is that the goal is to always have more benefits than consequences, so the nation and its people can advance and not recede (two steps forward and 1 back rather than the opposite). This OP is going to discuss who is getting hurt and if the consequences of Trump's actions will end up being a plus or a minus for our country.

What Trump has been doing it trying to keep his campaign promises and as such, he is having a 53% approval rating for doing that. Keeping campaign promises is never a bad thing because it is what he was elected to do. Having said that, the way he does that and what the end result ends up being is what is going to make this nation better or worse.

Let me start with this one piece of common sense. Doing a lot of harm to others is never a plus.


In addition, his shutdown of USAID not only removes jobs from thousands of Americans but removes aid from the poor, sick, and needy in the world.

The plus to all of this is a reduction in spending. This hopefully means less debt but the way that Trump is doing it also means the following:

1) less Americans working
2) less taxes being collected
3) less people receiving the needed help to stay alive
4) more Americans needing help
5) more American companies losing the income they need to stay in business
6) more chaos and less order
7) allies becoming enemies
8) hate and payback feelings increased, bringing new problems

Yes, some of the promises made fulfill a need that the nation has but the way that Trump and Musk are going about fulfilling those promises is by using a sledgehammer approach and that is never a plus. Destroying things that have been in effect for decades and offer good and needed things but are full of "fat", is not the way to go. You trim the fat and put them on a diet but you don't blow them away and start from scratch.

That is a recipe for disaster

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My biggest accusation against Trump has always been incompetency. He has tried many things in life but with the exceptions of the things his father taught him from a young age (Real Estate and scamming people), Trump has been a disaster. He does not learn from his mistakes because he is a narcissist and always blames others for his own mistakes.

Musk has been a highly successful businessman all his life but it has always been in things he had an interest in and spent time learning about. Nonetheless, his ego has grown to such a degree that he is no longer spending the time to learn new things (such as what governing needs and requires, and what being in a business he has never been in, like social media needs and requires).

He bought Twitter in October of last year and made huge changes (the same he is trying to do now), and now 4 months later, Twitter (as X) has lost 79% in value, has lost most of its income (advertisers have left) and has lost viewership as the changes he made to the media itself, are not liked by the viewers.

Both of these people are making huge changes and are not thinking about the consequences of what they are doing and what possibly was a good thing is now looking like a disaster-in-the-making.

Amen

Missing a paycheck moocher?
All the social security checks went out right on time.

 

[Luckyone]

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We don't care ... If the people ripping us off, or those allowing it to continue, lose their jobs.
We don't care ... Especially about the chaos people create as their world of fraud, waste and abuse falls down around them.
We don't care ... If we root out the corruption and fraud, and cut off support to those who are ripping us off.
We don't need to care ... And will be more than happy to feed the starving crooks three meals a day in prison.

It is about the money ... Hard working tax paying American's money being wasted, stolen or abused ...
And specifically by the Establishment you are trying to support.

Your pleas for compassion are only judged in comparison to what you really want ...
The chickens have come home to roost ... And you cannot hide behind that shit anymore ...

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It is becoming evident that you have no one in your life that is willing to do this for you, when you need them, do you!

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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It is becoming evident that you have no one in your life that is willing to do this for you, when you need them, do you!

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The visual equivalent of left cult word salad.







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[BlackSand]

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It is becoming evident that you have no one in your life that is willing to do this for you, when you need them, do you!

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I have been the person taking care of others more often than not ... Gladly!

You wouldn't understand that because you cannot distinguish between altruism and false altruism ...
You actually think you are a good person because you pull a lever on election day ...
So who you elect can do wonderful things spending other peoples' money.

Precisely because you couldn't accomplish what you want ... Then want to excuse the fraud, waste and corruption you vote for ...
All in attempts to feel better about yourself.

Oh, please ... Don't act like you can tell me anything ... I know a lot of people like you.
You don't have the wherewithal to guess anything about me ...
It's best you worry about yourself ...

Try to make it personal ...
And will have no problem beating you to death with your own words and ideas

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[Godboy]

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It is becoming evident that you have no one in your life that is willing to do this for you, when you need them, do you!

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Shut the fuck up. No one here is going to feel sorry for your trolling ass. You deserve to be in that bed. Now fuck off, dipshit.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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I have been the person taking care of others more often than not ... Gladly!

You wouldn't understand that because you cannot distinguish between altruism and false altruism ...
You actually think you are a good person because you pull a lever on election day ...
So who you elect can do wonderful things spending other peoples' money.

Precisely because you couldn't accomplish what you want ... Then want to excuse the fraud, waste and corruption you vote for ...
All in attempts to feel better about yourself.

Oh, please ... Don't act like you can tell me anything ... I know a lot of people like you.
You don't have the wherewithal to guess anything about me ...
It's best you worry about yourself ...

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Our altruism, true altruism, comes from the heart and the soul. I have been in the situation where I had to rely on the charity of others. This is the reason that I now owe charity to others.

Left altruism comes from the mouth. Whatever they think they have to say to get what they want. Mercy, I've met SO MANY of these!


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[BlackSand]

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Our altruism, true altruism, comes from the heart and the soul.

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And involves no one else other than those you help ...
And that defines the difference in the illusion of self-righteousness so many have.

You're not trying to prove your worth ... By simply helping others ... Just doing what you need to do.
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[DBA]

Watching you Trumps cultists fall for your fuhrer’s ridiculous bluster is sad.

Certainly not as sad as watching you TDS folks lose any common sense you may have had. Granted, there wasn't much there to start with for the average Democrat.

 

[Luckyone]

Shut the fuck up. No one here is going to feel sorry for your trolling ass. You deserve to be in that bed. Now fuck off, dipshit.

I absolutely LOVE it when I get posts like this from people like you. It means that I am hitting a nerve that does not want to be hit. Normally, it is because I am saying something that is true and real and you have no answer for it, but if there is another reason, it is still greatly enjoyed as hitting a nerve on "dipshits" like you is a pleasure.

 

[TimFitz]

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None of that is an excuse to ignore the fraud and abuse ...

We tried it your way for decades, and we're talking about hard working Americans' tax dollars.
We're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars in waste, corruption, and fraud.

The whole premise you suggest that we should just keep doing it ...
Because the people ripping us all off might get hurt, go out of business, or get pissed about it all ...
Go Fuck Yourself ... And I really don't think there is a nicer way to say it ...

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Trump and Musk are diddling you.

Neither one of them cares about waste or spending.

But they’re flooding X with sensationalist and mostly made up claims for your entertainment.

Meanwhile, everyone at USAID is on leave, doing nothing, and getting paid.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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And involves no one else other than those you help ...
And that defines the difference in the illusion of self-righteousness so many have.

You're not trying to prove your worth ... By simply helping others ... Just doing what you need to do.
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So well said!


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[TimFitz]

Certainly not as sad as watching you TDS folks lose any common sense you may have had. Granted, there wasn't much there to start with for the average Democrat.

“lose common sense’?

I’,m not the one who was dumb enough to believe that a couple of nineteen year olds did a complete “audit” of a large government agency in less than a week.

You fell for that.

 

[Godboy]

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I absolutely LOVE it when I get posts like this from people like you. It means that I am hitting a nerve that does not want to be hit. Normally, it is because I am saying something that is true and real and you have no answer for it, but if there is another reason, it is still greatly enjoyed as hitting a nerve on "dipshits" like you is a pleasure.

Im just amused by the idea of you slowly dying in a bed. You deserve that fate. The more people like you die, the better off our country will be.

 

[BlackSand]

Trump and Musk are diddling you.

Neither one of them cares about waste or spending.

But they’re flooding X with sensationalist and mostly made up claims for your entertainment.

Meanwhile, everyone at USAID is on leave, doing nothing, and getting paid.

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Catch the fuck up dogface.
That's shit you are trying to talk was dead weeks ago.

I slapped you then ... You want a fresh one ...

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