Who else is excited for Rand Paul's presidency?

[JakeStarkey]

The crazy definitions come from your side, dblack, not the middle of road dems and pubs and greens and others who play by the rules of American democracy. No one here has called you anarchists, only you. Are you anarchists?

The great majority are not going to change for your silliness.

You guys are as weird as the far Christian right, the John Birch Society, the racists, the sexists, and the rest of the wackos.

You don't get to change meanings of words and terms so you can run around doing whatever you want to do if it threatens the well being and safety of others.

If you hate the American republic, our democratic institutions, and our way of life, this is not the place for you.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Dr. Strange House, like all wack libertarians, only believes his own strange fact checking.

Purged? What, you want us sent to concentration camps and gassed with Zyklon B since we don't believe in supporting the destruction of American rights & values?

That's ridiculous drivel. You're saying you want support a guy who as governor of a state with a legislature that was 85% Democrat did the following:

* Balanced the budget 4 years in a row after inheriting a sizable deficit.
* Held state spending to nearly zero real growth (2.2% AFI).
* Cut property taxes for seniors.
* Rebated $275 million in capital gains taxes back to taxpayers.
* Improved the state's bond rating.
* Increased the state's reserve fund.
* Improved the state's job-creation ranking from 47th to 28th.
* Brought the state's unemployment rate down to below 5% (below the national average).
* Made it easier to get gun permits.
* Vetoed over 800 bills in 4 years.
* Blocked the state from joining a regional cap-and-trade scheme.

You're saying, "Nah, that's not good enough for me! So I'm gonna abstain or vote for Johnson, even though I know that means I'll be helping Obama."

Source it from somewhere with a halfway believable reputation instead of some Republicunt propaganda machine and I'll consider it, but throwing out a bunch of claims doesn't do anything for your cause when you're talking to people that have obviously rejected the sheeple practice of just believing the latest thing they're told.

 

[rightwinger]

True, an Article III Judicial branch was established.

Unfortunately , the same was abolished circa 1935.

Now we merely have impostors collecting a steady check and enjoying their Federal Blue Cross/Blue Shield. We are on our own.

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More Libertarian hogwash

We are more free today than in any time in our history. We have our judicial system to thank for that.

More socialist hogwash. You define "free" how .......Orwellian Terms, of course.

.

Well, let's look at the record

At the time of our founding, blacks were slaves, Indians weren't citizens, women couldn't vote, non landowners couldn't vote........not what I would call free

By 1865, slaves were free but denied equal treatment, Indians were still being hunted, women had no vote......still not exactly free

By the 1920s, women received the vote, blacks had fewer freedoms than 1865, workers had no rights.........still a long way from freedom

By the 1950s, workers had full rights, women could vote but were excluded from most career paths, gays were openly beaten, blacks were subjected to government sanctioned domestic terrorism.......far from what I would consider free

By the 1980s, almost all jobs were open to women and minorities, gays were allowed to come out in the open.........now we were approaching freedom

Today, we have a black man as President, women have greater representation in most careers and the military, gays can openly serve in the military and can marry in almost a quarter of the states.......Yes, we are much more free today

 

[dblack]

You don't get to change meanings of words and terms so you can run around doing whatever you want to do if it threatens the well being and safety of others.

No, only the state is allowed to do that, eh?

If you hate the American republic, our democratic institutions, and our way of life, this is not the place for you.

We don't hate it all. We hate what fascists like you want to do with it. And we'll continue to do what we can to prevent your corporatist wet dreams from becoming reality. We might, in fact, lose. In which case we'll probably leave - if the bloodthirsty statists don't kill us first. In any case, we won't live as your slaves.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Those who believe in the Rule of Law are Americans, classical liberals, practitioners of democracy, the best hope of the world.

You can't get what you want the good way, so you want to undermine, dblack, our American republic.

Won't ever happen.

Are you anarchist?

Leave? You aren't going anywhere except to a stadium where Homer Simpson is going to remove your nutrients for the rest of the country.

You are a fool.

 

[LibertyLemming]

Purged? What, you want us sent to concentration camps and gassed with Zyklon B since we don't believe in supporting the destruction of American rights & values?

That's ridiculous drivel. You're saying you want support a guy who as governor of a state with a legislature that was 85% Democrat did the following:

* Balanced the budget 4 years in a row after inheriting a sizable deficit.
* Held state spending to nearly zero real growth (2.2% AFI).
* Cut property taxes for seniors.
* Rebated $275 million in capital gains taxes back to taxpayers.
* Improved the state's bond rating.
* Increased the state's reserve fund.
* Improved the state's job-creation ranking from 47th to 28th.
* Brought the state's unemployment rate down to below 5% (below the national average).
* Made it easier to get gun permits.
* Vetoed over 800 bills in 4 years.
* Blocked the state from joining a regional cap-and-trade scheme.

You're saying, "Nah, that's not good enough for me! So I'm gonna abstain or vote for Johnson, even though I know that means I'll be helping Obama."

Source it from somewhere with a halfway believable reputation instead of some Republicunt propaganda machine and I'll consider it, but throwing out a bunch of claims doesn't do anything for your cause when you're talking to people that have obviously rejected the sheeple practice of just believing the latest thing they're told.

yeah bro haven't you heard that Obama got us a 90 trillion surplus in term one, ended terrorism, ended racism, AND got free pizza for all citizens one night a week

 

[dblack]

Those who believe in the Rule of Law are Americans, classical liberals, practitioners of democracy, the best hope of the world.

Absolutely. But what you preach is the opposite of the rule of law - it's the rule of authority.

You can't get what you want the good way, so you want to undermine, dblack, our American republic.

Jake, you've proven impervious to any understanding of what I want. In fact, pretty much all you ever do is strawman it (presumably because that's all you got). If you spent as much time working on your own incoherent arguments as you do mis-stating the views of others, you might actually contribute something to these conversations. But you don't. And you don't.

 

[House]

That's ridiculous drivel. You're saying you want support a guy who as governor of a state with a legislature that was 85% Democrat did the following:

* Balanced the budget 4 years in a row after inheriting a sizable deficit.
* Held state spending to nearly zero real growth (2.2% AFI).
* Cut property taxes for seniors.
* Rebated $275 million in capital gains taxes back to taxpayers.
* Improved the state's bond rating.
* Increased the state's reserve fund.
* Improved the state's job-creation ranking from 47th to 28th.
* Brought the state's unemployment rate down to below 5% (below the national average).
* Made it easier to get gun permits.
* Vetoed over 800 bills in 4 years.
* Blocked the state from joining a regional cap-and-trade scheme.

You're saying, "Nah, that's not good enough for me! So I'm gonna abstain or vote for Johnson, even though I know that means I'll be helping Obama."

Source it from somewhere with a halfway believable reputation instead of some Republicunt propaganda machine and I'll consider it, but throwing out a bunch of claims doesn't do anything for your cause when you're talking to people that have obviously rejected the sheeple practice of just believing the latest thing they're told.

yeah bro haven't you heard that Obama got us a 90 trillion surplus in term one, ended terrorism, ended racism, AND got free pizza for all citizens one night a week

Irrelevant troll is irrelevant.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You keep presenting straw arguments, dlblack, and fail miserably. You are incoherent, you misstate the views of others, and then try to ascribe all that to me?



Quit acting like a boob. The Rule of Law in a representative democracy of We the People is not authoritarian.

Why do you claim it is?

Those who believe in the Rule of Law are Americans, classical liberals, practitioners of democracy, the best hope of the world.

Absolutely. But what you preach is the opposite of the rule of law - it's the rule of authority.

You can't get what you want the good way, so you want to undermine, dblack, our American republic.

Jake, you've proven impervious to any understanding of what I want. In fact, pretty much all you ever do is strawman it (presumably because that's all you got). If you spent as much time working on your own incoherent arguments as you do mis-stating the views of others, you might actually contribute something to these conversations. But you don't. And you don't.

 

[LibertyLemming]

Source it from somewhere with a halfway believable reputation instead of some Republicunt propaganda machine and I'll consider it, but throwing out a bunch of claims doesn't do anything for your cause when you're talking to people that have obviously rejected the sheeple practice of just believing the latest thing they're told.

yeah bro haven't you heard that Obama got us a 90 trillion surplus in term one, ended terrorism, ended racism, AND got free pizza for all citizens one night a week

Irrelevant troll is irrelevant.

Rude I just wanted to throw out random BS like everyone else!!!!!!!

 

[House]

yeah bro haven't you heard that Obama got us a 90 trillion surplus in term one, ended terrorism, ended racism, AND got free pizza for all citizens one night a week

Irrelevant troll is irrelevant.

Rude I just wanted to throw out random BS like everyone else!!!!!!!

At least you're trying to be funny now.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The libertarian trash are melting down, as always.

 

[rightwinger]

The libertarian trash are melting down, as always.

There is a presidential election tomorrow and as usual, they are feeling left out

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

The libertarian trash are melting down, as always.

There is a presidential election tomorrow and as usual, they are feeling left out

Not so. I've been enjoying watching the sheep stand in line for hours and hours all for the opportunity to choose between Tweedledee or Tweedledum.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

More Libertarian hogwash

We are more free today than in any time in our history. We have our judicial system to thank for that.

More socialist hogwash. You define "free" how .......Orwellian Terms, of course.

.

Well, let's look at the record

At the time of our founding, blacks were slaves, Indians weren't citizens, women couldn't vote, non landowners couldn't vote........not what I would call free

By 1865, slaves were free but denied equal treatment, Indians were still being hunted, women had no vote......still not exactly free

By the 1920s, women received the vote, blacks had fewer freedoms than 1865, workers had no rights.........still a long way from freedom

By the 1950s, workers had full rights, women could vote but were excluded from most career paths, gays were openly beaten, blacks were subjected to government sanctioned domestic terrorism.......far from what I would consider free

By the 1980s, almost all jobs were open to women and minorities, gays were allowed to come out in the open.........now we were approaching freedom

Today, we have a black man as President, women have greater representation in most careers and the military, gays can openly serve in the military and can marry in almost a quarter of the states.......Yes, we are much more free today

We indeed enjoy more freedom today than any time in this Nation’s history.

That conservatives reject this fact is telling.

 

[mex]

Oh really?

What are Rands legislative accomplishments?

Zero, just like his dad

Even I will give credit to Ron Paul. I admire the man. His son has big shoes to fill.

You need a smackdown.

Tell us what a bad man he is. By all means. I can't wait.

Bad man?

I don't think he beats his wife. But there is no question that his policies are bad. Opposing Civil Rights because you want to protect the rights of racist businessmen, opposing programs that help the poor, opposing environmental protections

Does that make you a bad man? Yes it does

Horseshit. disagreeing with algore's radical policies doesn't mean he wants all of us to drink filthy water, and not supporting Affirmative action doesn't mean he's a racist.

that bad old constitution... please lawdy lawdy... protect us from them evil white founders!

 

[mex]

You have done no such thing.

Your belief is not logic.

Tell me how taking money from me against my will is not theft and I'll vote for Obama and donate extra to your unemployment this year.

It's not theft unless you can prove that it is not legitimate for people to come together and form a government,

that then becomes the legitimate authority over those people.

Yep.. The tyranny of the majority is acceptable, right?

 

[mex]

well, if you are okay with oppressing some people for the *possibility* of helping others i can't do anything for you

post of the thread.

 

[mex]

Well, if you are okay with oppressing some people for the *possibility* of helping others I can't do anything for you

No "possibility" about it

Blacks have been helped immensely by Civil Rights legislation. If the Government stepping in and saying "You may no longer oppress blacks" is oppressing those who enforced Jim Crow for100 years....so be it

For the Pauls to believe therwise shows why they are unfit

dude, you got stung on that one. why don't you show some humility and acknowledge it?

 

[LibertyLemming]

more socialist hogwash. You define "free" how .......orwellian terms, of course.

.

well, let's look at the record

at the time of our founding, blacks were slaves, indians weren't citizens, women couldn't vote, non landowners couldn't vote........not what i would call free

by 1865, slaves were free but denied equal treatment, indians were still being hunted, women had no vote......still not exactly free

by the 1920s, women received the vote, blacks had fewer freedoms than 1865, workers had no rights.........still a long way from freedom

by the 1950s, workers had full rights, women could vote but were excluded from most career paths, gays were openly beaten, blacks were subjected to government sanctioned domestic terrorism.......far from what i would consider free

by the 1980s, almost all jobs were open to women and minorities, gays were allowed to come out in the open.........now we were approaching freedom

today, we have a black man as president, women have greater representation in most careers and the military, gays can openly serve in the military and can marry in almost a quarter of the states.......yes, we are much more free today

we indeed enjoy more freedom today than any time in this nation’s history.

That conservatives reject this fact is telling.

lololol