White Racism did Not End When Slavery ended

[ThomasSowellsFro]

No government law will never end any form of racism ever

Facts! That's why we need the death penalty for racism. A bullet to the head stops everything.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Wiener Dog Mod mode: This thread has ~247 reports. Dude!
Lets remember:
1. Not to attack other posters.
2. North East Texas has really high humidity right now. I thought it was raining at a competition - turns out it was just the sweat pouring off my hat.
3. Wiener Dogs are nature's perfect predator.

 

[Meister]

Facts! That's why we need the death penalty for racism. A bullet to the head stops everything.

There would also be a lot of dead Black people, you get that, right?

 

[ThomasSowellsFro]

Wiener Dog Mod mode: This thread has ~247 reports. Dude!
Lets remember:
1. Not to attack other posters.
2. North East Texas has really high humidity right now. I thought it was raining at a competition - turns out it was just the sweat pouring off my hat.
3. Wiener Dogs are nature's perfect predator.

Just ban them. No more warnings. They know the rules. You give these racist 10001 chances.

 

[ThomasSowellsFro]

There would also be a lot of dead Black people, you get that, right?

You're assuming I have a problem with it because they are black, which confirms CRT. You are obsessed with skin color and the non immutables.

 

[Zincwarrior]

And you have stated many times that you believe most of the people posting here are racist. Is there something you'd like to have the courage to say directly?

Mod Mode: Lets not go there guys.

 

[marvin martian]

I have said this more than once, blacks' grievance with America left slavery as the sole issue pretty much the day after blacks were informed of emancipation. We were freed from slavery even though we received no compensation for the economic damage caused. Today’s grievances include not just slavery but the 100 years after emancipation and modern forms of racism. Simply put, human rights violations against blacks did not end after slavery. Dr. Carol Anderson points this out in detail in her book, “White Rage.”

Dr. Anderson chronicles the many methods whites used in the years after slavery to restrict the right for blacks to move around freely in America. Whites in the south used any means necessary to discourage blacks from moving north. In the north, whites terrorized blacks competing for jobs with better pay and those trying to live in majority white neighborhoods.

In July 1865, Circular 13 was issued by General Oliver Howard fully authorizing the lease of 40-acre plots of land to the newly freed blacks. As a result of this document, 40,000 formerly enslaved people began work on land that now belonged to them. But President Andrew Johnson killed these two orders and removed those 40,000 blacks from that land while destroying any income they could make. He gave the land back to whites. Johnson pardoned most of the confederate leaders, allowing them to regain power. By doing this, Johnson unleashed a reign of terror on blacks that was nothing short of attempted ethnic cleansing.

On the evening of Saturday, July 19th, 1919, in Washington D.C., a mob of mad drunken white World War 1 veterans invaded a black neighborhood because of a rumor spread about a black man assaulting the wife of a white navy man.54 Those mad white men proceeded to beat all the blacks they found.

The Omaha Race Riot occurred on September 28–29, 1919. Three conditions: black property acquisition, economic anxiety, and black male sexual aggression claims have been the standard for white violence against blacks throughout American history. The Omaha Riots met at least 2 of the three conditions. The eventual lynching of Will Brown began with reports in local media about the alleged rape of a woman on September 25, 1919. Brown was lynched, shot up after he was dead, dragged through the streets of Omaha, and set on fire. He had committed no crime.

On December 23, 1945, Mr. and Mrs. H. O’Day Short and their two little children were burned to death in Fontana, California.

For the first five years after WW2 in Chicago alone, there were over 300 documented acts of terror by whites against blacks who tried living in or near majority-white neighborhoods.65 In 1951, a black man named Harvey Clark and his family tried to move into the Cicero neighborhood of Chicago. A white mob vandalized his home and burned his furniture in the front yard. The police did nothing.

In 1955, there were more than 200 recorded acts of violence against blacks by whites in Philadelphia

In 1964, blacks again tried renting an apartment in Cicero, their apartment was vandalized. Police acted this time. They entered the apartment, took out the furniture, and told the people they were evicted.

During the same period in Detroit, there were over 200 acts of terror to stop black families from moving to the suburbs.

In 15 years from 1950 to 1965, more than 100 recorded bombings of black-owned homes occurred in Los Angeles.

In 1987, another black family tried moving into Cicero. They got gunfire and firebombs.71 Again, that was in 1987, not 1887.

Consistently since the end of slavery, there has been a section of the white community who violently resisted the efforts of blacks to live successfully in America. During this time, prosperous blacks faced acts of terror while thriving black communities got destroyed by mobs of angry whites who felt they were losing out because blacks had acquired the same things whites had. This kind of terrorism has gone long ignored in understanding the brutality and hardcore resistance to black freedom in America.

After slavery ended, southern whites went on a campaign of what can only be called ethnic cleansing. The federal government turned tail and ran by establishing a legal principle whereby the federal government did not have to enforce the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments by using states’ rights. Apartheid became the law of the land due to the Plessy decision. Blacks tried to escape the oppressive conditions in the south by coming north, but they found just how united the states were relative to white supremacy. At every turn, whenever blacks tried reaching for what this country claims to promise, we have run into a brick wall, or more accurately, a white mob.

And I didn't include the government programs helping whites that blacks were excluded from.

July 19, 1919: White Mobs in Uniform Attack African Americans — Who Fight Back — in Washington, D.C., July 19, 1919: White Mobs in Uniform Attack African Americans — Who Fight Back — in Washington, D.C. - Zinn Education Project

Anthony Dittmar, Omaha Race Riot, Omaha Race Riot – Discovering 1919

B.C Franklin, The Tulsa Race Riots and Three of It’s Victims, A Long-Lost Manuscript Contains a Searing Eyewitness Account of the Tulsa Race Massacre of 1921

Survivors of 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre share eyewitness accounts, Survivors of 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre share eyewitness accounts - The Cincinnati Herald

William L. Patterson, We Charge Genocide, 4th edition, International Publishers Co., Inc., New York, 2017 pp.60-61

Peter Salwen, A "Northern Lynching," Remembering the Trenton Six Case, August 6, 1998, "A Northern Lynching" - the "Trenton Six" case, 50 years later

Sharon Schlegel, Harrowing case of the "Trenton Six", The Times of Trenton, Jan 28, 2012, Updated Mar 30, 2019, https://www.nj.com/times opinion/2012/01/harrowing_case_of_the_trenton.html

Richard Rothstein, Color of Law, Liverright Publishing, pp.144, 2018

Jae Jones, Cicero Race Riot: Mob of 4,000 Destroys Apartment Building with One Black Family Tenants, November 14, 2018, Cicero Race Riot: Mob of 4,000 Destroys Apartment Building with One Black Family Tenantsblack-family-tenants/

Charles Abrams, The Time Bomb That Exploded in Cicero: Segregated Housing's Inevitable Dividend, The Time Bomb That Exploded in Cicero:Segregated Housing's Inevitable Dividend

Christy Clark-Pujara and Anna-Lisa Cox, How the Myth of a Liberal North Erases a Long History of White Violence, smithsonianmag.com, August 27, 2020, How the Myth of a Liberal North Erases a Long History of White Violence

Of course not. You people have perpetuated it to this day. Look who you just elected!

Not to mention your fellow DemoKKKrat and favorite governor of all time, who was finally replaced by a Republican last year after you people kept reelecting him:

 

[IM2]

Of course not. You people have perpetuated it to this day. Look who you just elected!

Not to mention your fellow DemoKKKrat and favorite governor of all time, who was finally replaced by a Republican last year after you people kept reelecting him:

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STFU idiot.

 

[MizMolly]

Facts! That's why we need the death penalty for racism. A bullet to the head stops everything.

You would be on death row

 

[marvin martian]

STFU idiot.

I get that you're ashamed for supporting the KKK, but if you just stopped doing that, a lot of your problems would go away.

 

[Woodznutz]

Citygroup did a study focusing on U.S. GDP from 2000 until 2020. The study determined that since the year 2000, continuing discriminatory practices in four areas resulted in a loss of 16 trillion dollars in GDP. The breakdown is as follows:

“Closing the Black racial wage gap 20 years ago might have provided an additional $2.7 trillion in income available for consumption and investment.

Improving access to housing credit might have added an additional 770,000 Black homeowners over the last 20 years, with combined sales and expenditures adding another $218 billion to GDP over that time.

Facilitating increased access to higher education (college, graduate, and vocational schools) for Black students might have bolstered lifetime incomes that in aggregate sums to $90 to $113 billion.

Providing fair and equitable lending to Black entrepreneurs might have resulted in the creation of an additional $13 trillion in business revenue over the last 20 years. This could have been used for investments in labor, technology, capital equipment, and structures and 6.1 million jobs might have been created per year.”

This is still happening long after slavery and in our lifetimes. You people who have problems can bellow all you want, but this is the reality.

Blacks should stop looking outward for help and start looking inward for solutions. You are asking the fox to guard the henhouse.

 

[Woodznutz]

The that was in the past and racism is gone argument has no merit. In fact its a lie. Your opinion is totally inaccurate. I don't know why whites like you think that you saying these things makes it real.

People like you have all kinds of excuses, but facts kill everything you say..

In 2017, Demos published a study titled, “The Asset Value of Whiteness: Understanding the Racial Wealth Gap.” On page 10 this statement is written: "The median white single parent has 2.2 times more wealth than the median black two-parent household and 1.9 times more wealth than the median Latino two-parent household."

Amy Traub, Laura Sullivan, Tatjana Meschede and Thomas Shapiro, DEMOS, The Asset Value of Whiteness: Understanding the Racial Wealth Gap, pg. 10 https://www.demos.org/sites/default/files/publications/Asset Value of Whiteness_0.pdf

You said blacks get bullshit degrees as if whites don't. But facks kill that lie too.

"Even after completing undergraduate and graduate degrees, black and Hispanic workers earned less than non-Hispanic white workers with the same, or often less, education."
- Roy Eduardo Kokoyachuk, ThinkNow Research

Kokoyachuck found that blacks and Hispanics with college degrees were paid less than whites and Asians with comparable education. His study showed that blacks and Hispanics who graduated in S.T.E.M majors earned less than whites and Asians with degrees in those same majors. "Even when Blacks and Hispanics go the extra mile and earn professional degrees, their incomes still don’t break six figures. Whites and Asians, however, double their incomes by earning professional degrees, allowing them to make well over $100,000 a year."

Roy Eduardo Kokoyachuk, Education Alone Can't Close The Racial Wage Gap, Education Alone Can't Close The Racial Wage Gap

In 2011, DEMOS did a study named “The Racial Wealth Gap, Why Policy Matters,” which discussed the racial wealth gap, its problems, and solutions and outcomes if the gap did not exist. DEMOS determined that policy decisions primarily drove the racial wealth gap in this study.

“The U.S. racial wealth gap is substantial and is driven by public policy decisions. According to our analysis of the SIPP data, in 2011 the median white household had $111,146 in wealth holdings, compared to just $7,113 for the median Black household and $8,348 for the median Latino household. From the continuing impact of redlining on American homeownership to the retreat from desegregation in public education, public policy has shaped these disparities, leaving them impossible to overcome without racially-aware policy change.” -DEMOS

Laura Sullivan, Tatjana Meschede, Lars Dietrich, & Thomas Shapiro, Amy Traub, Catherine Ruetschlin, Tamara Draut, The Racial Wealth Gap, Why Policy Matters, pg.4

https://www.demos.org/sites/default/files/publications/RacialWealthGap_2.pdf

On October 24, 2013, the Kellogg Foundation and Altarum Institute sent out a press release about a report they had done titled, “The Business Case for Racial Equity.” This was a study done by both organizations, using information studied and assessed from the Center for American Progress, National Urban League Policy Institute, Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies and the U.S. Department of Justice.

“Striving for racial equity – a world where race is no longer a factor in the distribution of opportunity – is a matter of social justice. But moving toward racial equity can generate significant economic returns as well. When people face barriers to achieving their full potential, the loss of talent, creativity, energy, and productivity is a burden not only for those disadvantaged, but for communities, businesses, governments, and the economy as a whole. Initial research on the magnitude of this burden in the United States (U.S.), as highlighted in this brief, reveals impacts in the trillions of dollars in lost earnings, avoidable public expenditures, and lost economic output.”
-The Kellogg Foundation and Altarum Institute

Ani Turner, The Business Case for Racial Equity, https://altarum.org/sites/default/f...s-Case-Racial-Equity_National-Report_2018.pdf

On September 3, 2019, Brentin Mock, wrote an article on the Bloomberg.com CityLab website titled, “White Americans’ Hold on Wealth Is Old, Deep, and Nearly Unshakeable” based on a study done by McKinsey and Company called “The economic impact of closing the racial wealth gap.” In this study McKinsey and Company predicted a bleak future if current race based wealth inequality continues.

“It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey.

If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm.”

Brentin Mock, “White Americans’ Hold on Wealth Is Old, Deep, and Nearly Unshakeable,” CITILAB, September 3, 2019, White Americans' Hold on Wealth Is Old, Deep, and Nearly Unshakeable

Nick Noel, Duwain Pinder, Shelley Stewart III and Jason Wright, The economic impact of closing the racial wealth gap, https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/mckinsey/industries/public and social sector/our insights/the economic impact of closing the racial wealth gap/the-economic-impact-of-closing-the-racial-wealth-gap-final.pdf

Many blacks make more than me, doesn't bother me at all. I do have more wealth however as I save and invest more. I drive old cars, and still have hand-me-down furniture given to me decades ago (although I did recently buy a new mattress). I can put all the clothes I own into one plastic bag. My tv is an old CRT that I found on Craigs List for $20. My only 'toys' are the tools and machines in my woodshop, and I use them to make things needed for my job.

I come from a different day and time from most, a time when problems were an opportunity to use your brains and your creativity. I still live in that time and happily so.

 

[IM2]

Blacks should stop looking outward for help and start looking inward for solutions. You are asking the fox to guard the henhouse.

We are looking to the government that made rules to ensure equal protection to all. Blacks have the solutions, we don't have the money. And since our money and labor had made white life comfortable, it's now to for reciprocation.

 

[IM2]

Many blacks make more than me, doesn't bother me at all. I do have more wealth however as I save and invest more. I drive old cars, and still have hand-me-down furniture given to me decades ago (although I did recently buy a new mattress). I can put all the clothes I own into one plastic bag. My tv is an old CRT that I found on Craigs List for $20. My only 'toys' are the tools and machines in my woodshop, and I use them to make things needed for my job.

I come from a different day and time from most, a time when problems were an opportunity to use your brains and your creativity. I still live in that time and happily so.

Your anecdotal story has nothing to do with systemic problems created by 246 years of white favoritism.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

White Racism did Not End When Slavery ended

True – it’s alive and thriving today, and it’s only getting worse the consequence of white grievance politics and racist replacement theory.

 

[BackAgain]

White Racism did Not End When Slavery ended​

Hm. When can we expect black racism to end?

 

[Woodznutz]

We are looking to the government that made rules to ensure equal protection to all. Blacks have the solutions, we don't have the money. And since our money and labor had made white life comfortable, it's now to for reciprocation.

I've pointed out to you before that blacks indeed have/earn enough money. You just have to save and invest more of it. You need to establish "black capital", which will give you economic and political power.

 

[IM2]

I've pointed out to you before that blacks indeed have/earn enough money. You just have to save and invest more of it. You need to establish "black capital", which will give you economic and political power.

Blacks have done what you say. If what you say was the answer, Black Wall Street would still be standing. You have nothing to tell me that I don't already know. Learn that it is now time for whites to listen.

 

[Woodznutz]

White Racism did Not End When Slavery ended​

Hm. When can we expect black racism to end?

Never. There are no circumstance now or in the future that will satisfy black anger over slavery and racism. It's part of their DNA now. Sadly, the coming race war and bloodbath will only serve to destroy any progress they now enjoy and will likely set them back so far that they might never recover.

 

[Woodznutz]

Blacks have done what you say. If what you say was the answer, Black Wall Street would still be standing. You have nothing to tell me that I don't already know. Learn that it is now time for whites to listen.

Do you really believe, that in 2022, black businesses will be destroyed if it is 'reported' that a black man sexually assaulted a white woman?

The enormous buying power of blacks is evident. And if only a fraction were saved and invested a whole new world would open.