Where is this mountain of evidence for evolution?

[orogenicman]

No, Mr. Wrong. Atheists aren't saying that Christians don't understand evolution because there are plenty of Christians who do. They are saying that creationists and intelligent design supporters don't understand it or are willfully ignorant of it or willfully misrepresent it. What you people are insisting on, particularly intelligent design people, is that life is too complex to have come about randomly (randomness being a mislabel of what evolutions says) and must have had a designer. Creationists simply say god did it regardless (in 7 days of all crazy things), but intelligent design hides god behind some undefined "designer" because they believe that in doing so they can get it taught in our public schools. And sorry, but that is never going to happen. It is the god of the gaps argument.

Wrong, idiot. The last thing Christians want is for some fucking atheist liberal teaching our kids about God. Neither do we want you fucktards teaching our kids that our ancestors were apes. Comprende, asshole?

Actually, the first thing you zealots want is an opportunity to force your religious beliefs into the public schools. The entire false and contrived "teach the controversy" nonsense is being furthered by fundamentalist Christian creation ministries.

Sorry to disappoint you but human ancestry does derive from a version of the "apes" you describe although your understanding of our biological history is as ignorant and useless as the typical zealot.

You can't prove that ridiculous claim and you call me the zealot? And no, Christians don't want ANY religion taught in school, including the religion of evolution. You are NOT our children's parents.

Yes we can demonstrate the claim exactly through genetics, fossils, anatomy, morphology, physiology, and cladistics. And your claim that it isn't true is via what evidence, exactly? Please be specific.

I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right, and on that you fail miserably.

Actually, you do. Why? Because the theory of evolution is the accepted paradigm for the origin of the diversity of life on Earth. So let's discuss who has the burden of proof, shall we:

Seismic FAQ - Main Page

8. Burden of Proof
Who has to prove what to whom? The person making the extraordinary claim has the burden of proving to the experts and to the community at large that his or her belief has more validity than the one almost everyone else accepts. You have to lobby for your opinion to be heard. Then you have to marshal experts on your side so you can convince the majority to support your claim over the one they have always supported. Finally, when you are in the majority, the burden of proof switches to the outsider who wants to challenge you with his or her unusual claim. Evolutionists had the burden of proof for half a century after Darwin, but now the burden of proof is on creationists. It is up to creationists to show why the theory of evolution is wrong and why creationism is right, and it is not up to the evolutionists to defend evolution. The burden of proof is on the Holocaust deniers to prove the Holocaust did not happen, not on Holocaust historians to prove that it did. The rationale for this is that mountains of evidence prove that both evolution and the Holocaust are facts. In other words, it is not enough to have the evidence. You must convince others of the validity of your evidence. And when you are an outsider this is the price you pay, regardless of whether you are right or wrong.

 

[eots]

Wrong, idiot. The last thing Christians want is for some fucking atheist liberal teaching our kids about God. Neither do we want you fucktards teaching our kids that our ancestors were apes. Comprende, asshole?

But we have living fossils like you to point to.

Thanks for confirming what I said about the lack of substance in your argument.

Really, because I am published in the Journal of Invertebrate Paleontology, and have found many of those fossils you claim lack substance:

CRINOIDS FROM THE MULDRAUGH MEMBER OF THE BORDEN FORMATION IN NORTH-CENTRAL KENTUCKY ECHINODERMATA LOWER MISSISSIPPIAN

And your scientific training, expertize and experience is what, exactly?

You've proven nothing.

I've proven that you have no expertize whatsoever on the subject.

expertize ?..you mean expertise...right ?

 

[orogenicman]

But we have living fossils like you to point to.

Thanks for confirming what I said about the lack of substance in your argument.

Really, because I am published in the Journal of Invertebrate Paleontology, and have found many of those fossils you claim lack substance:

CRINOIDS FROM THE MULDRAUGH MEMBER OF THE BORDEN FORMATION IN NORTH-CENTRAL KENTUCKY ECHINODERMATA LOWER MISSISSIPPIAN

And your scientific training, expertize and experience is what, exactly?

You've proven nothing.

I've proven that you have no expertize whatsoever on the subject.

expertize ?..you mean expertise...right ?
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Nope, I'm not the smartest man alive. Just smarter than you. That much is certain.

 

[eots]

Thanks for confirming what I said about the lack of substance in your argument.

Really, because I am published in the Journal of Invertebrate Paleontology, and have found many of those fossils you claim lack substance:

CRINOIDS FROM THE MULDRAUGH MEMBER OF THE BORDEN FORMATION IN NORTH-CENTRAL KENTUCKY ECHINODERMATA LOWER MISSISSIPPIAN

And your scientific training, expertize and experience is what, exactly?

You've proven nothing.

I've proven that you have no expertize whatsoever on the subject.

expertize ?..you mean expertise...right ?
View attachment 39770

Nope, I'm not the smartest man alive. Just smarter than you. That much is certain.

"last week I couldn't spell expertize .. this week I are one"
...must be evolving

 

[Hollie]

But we have living fossils like you to point to.

Thanks for confirming what I said about the lack of substance in your argument.

Really, because I am published in the Journal of Invertebrate Paleontology, and have found many of those fossils you claim lack substance:

CRINOIDS FROM THE MULDRAUGH MEMBER OF THE BORDEN FORMATION IN NORTH-CENTRAL KENTUCKY ECHINODERMATA LOWER MISSISSIPPIAN

And your scientific training, expertize and experience is what, exactly?

You've proven nothing.

I've proven that you have no expertize whatsoever on the subject.

expertize ?..you mean expertise...right ?
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So, your conspiracy theory is that the entirety of the relevant, global science community that accepts biological evolution as the mechanism for the diversity of life on the planet is a worldwide conspiracy. Is that about right?

 

[eots]

Thanks for confirming what I said about the lack of substance in your argument.

Really, because I am published in the Journal of Invertebrate Paleontology, and have found many of those fossils you claim lack substance:

CRINOIDS FROM THE MULDRAUGH MEMBER OF THE BORDEN FORMATION IN NORTH-CENTRAL KENTUCKY ECHINODERMATA LOWER MISSISSIPPIAN

And your scientific training, expertize and experience is what, exactly?

You've proven nothing.

I've proven that you have no expertize whatsoever on the subject.

expertize ?..you mean expertise...right ?
View attachment 39770

So, your conspiracy theory is that the entirety of the relevant, global science community that accepts biological evolution as the mechanism for the diversity of life on the planet is a worldwide conspiracy. Is that about right?

No I think it is more like Scientific hubris

 

[eots]

Some scientists should be a little more humble as they face the unknown and the majesty of their ignorance

 

[S.J.]

Wrong, idiot. The last thing Christians want is for some fucking atheist liberal teaching our kids about God. Neither do we want you fucktards teaching our kids that our ancestors were apes. Comprende, asshole?

But we have living fossils like you to point to.

Thanks for confirming what I said about the lack of substance in your argument.

Really, because I am published in the Journal of Invertebrate Paleontology, and have found many of those fossils you claim lack substance:

CRINOIDS FROM THE MULDRAUGH MEMBER OF THE BORDEN FORMATION IN NORTH-CENTRAL KENTUCKY ECHINODERMATA LOWER MISSISSIPPIAN

And your scientific training, expertize and experience is what, exactly?

You've proven nothing.

I've proven that you have no expertize whatsoever on the subject.

What subject would that be, selling a theory without providing any proof or conclusive evidence? Yeah, I don't have any expertise at that.

 

[orogenicman]

Some scientists should be a little more humble as they face the unknown and the majesty of their ignorance

Actually, scientists are very humble when facing the unknown. That is why they don't make claims that are unsupported with evidence, unlike you religious lot, who are certain about your claims without any evidence whatsoever to support them.

 

[Hollie]

But we have living fossils like you to point to.

Thanks for confirming what I said about the lack of substance in your argument.

Really, because I am published in the Journal of Invertebrate Paleontology, and have found many of those fossils you claim lack substance:

CRINOIDS FROM THE MULDRAUGH MEMBER OF THE BORDEN FORMATION IN NORTH-CENTRAL KENTUCKY ECHINODERMATA LOWER MISSISSIPPIAN

And your scientific training, expertize and experience is what, exactly?

You've proven nothing.

I've proven that you have no expertize whatsoever on the subject.

expertize ?..you mean expertise...right ?
View attachment 39770

So, your conspiracy theory is that the entirety of the relevant, global science community that accepts biological evolution as the mechanism for the diversity of life on the planet is a worldwide conspiracy. Is that about right?

Really, because I am published in the Journal of Invertebrate Paleontology, and have found many of those fossils you claim lack substance:

CRINOIDS FROM THE MULDRAUGH MEMBER OF THE BORDEN FORMATION IN NORTH-CENTRAL KENTUCKY ECHINODERMATA LOWER MISSISSIPPIAN

And your scientific training, expertize and experience is what, exactly?

You've proven nothing.

I've proven that you have no expertize whatsoever on the subject.

expertize ?..you mean expertise...right ?
View attachment 39770

So, your conspiracy theory is that the entirety of the relevant, global science community that accepts biological evolution as the mechanism for the diversity of life on the planet is a worldwide conspiracy. Is that about right?

No I think it is more like Scientific hubris

Don't be shy. You have a reputation as among the more wacky of the the conspiracy theorists.

Do you hear that sound? Its the black helicopters circling around.

 

[S.J.]

Wrong, idiot. The last thing Christians want is for some fucking atheist liberal teaching our kids about God. Neither do we want you fucktards teaching our kids that our ancestors were apes. Comprende, asshole?

Actually, the first thing you zealots want is an opportunity to force your religious beliefs into the public schools. The entire false and contrived "teach the controversy" nonsense is being furthered by fundamentalist Christian creation ministries.

Sorry to disappoint you but human ancestry does derive from a version of the "apes" you describe although your understanding of our biological history is as ignorant and useless as the typical zealot.

You can't prove that ridiculous claim and you call me the zealot? And no, Christians don't want ANY religion taught in school, including the religion of evolution. You are NOT our children's parents.

Yes we can demonstrate the claim exactly through genetics, fossils, anatomy, morphology, physiology, and cladistics. And your claim that it isn't true is via what evidence, exactly? Please be specific.

I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right, and on that you fail miserably.

Your denial of the many sciences that contribute to the facts of evolution entitles you to wear the badge of religious extremist.

Revel in your ignorance. Your YEC'ist beliefs will get you a reduced rate for joining the Flat Earth Society.

My position has nothing to do with religion, it has to do with you not being able to prove the claim you think you have the right to force down everyone else's throat. And your "flat earth" comment doesn't help with your credibility. It only speaks to your lack of substance.

 

[orogenicman]

But we have living fossils like you to point to.

Thanks for confirming what I said about the lack of substance in your argument.

Really, because I am published in the Journal of Invertebrate Paleontology, and have found many of those fossils you claim lack substance:

CRINOIDS FROM THE MULDRAUGH MEMBER OF THE BORDEN FORMATION IN NORTH-CENTRAL KENTUCKY ECHINODERMATA LOWER MISSISSIPPIAN

And your scientific training, expertize and experience is what, exactly?

You've proven nothing.

I've proven that you have no expertize whatsoever on the subject.

What subject would that be, selling a theory without providing any proof or conclusive evidence? Yeah, I don't have any expertise at that.

Yeah, that's why the paper I published in the Journal of Invertebrate Paleontology was accepted without any evidence - other than the 300+ fossils (including 8 new species) that we provided as evidence. And your evidence is? Right. Nothing at all.

 

[orogenicman]

Actually, the first thing you zealots want is an opportunity to force your religious beliefs into the public schools. The entire false and contrived "teach the controversy" nonsense is being furthered by fundamentalist Christian creation ministries.

Sorry to disappoint you but human ancestry does derive from a version of the "apes" you describe although your understanding of our biological history is as ignorant and useless as the typical zealot.

You can't prove that ridiculous claim and you call me the zealot? And no, Christians don't want ANY religion taught in school, including the religion of evolution. You are NOT our children's parents.

Yes we can demonstrate the claim exactly through genetics, fossils, anatomy, morphology, physiology, and cladistics. And your claim that it isn't true is via what evidence, exactly? Please be specific.

I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right, and on that you fail miserably.

Your denial of the many sciences that contribute to the facts of evolution entitles you to wear the badge of religious extremist.

Revel in your ignorance. Your YEC'ist beliefs will get you a reduced rate for joining the Flat Earth Society.

My position has nothing to do with religion,

Liar.

it has to do with you not being able to prove the claim you think you have the right to force down everyone else's throat. And your "flat earth" comment doesn't help with your credibility. It only speaks to your lack of substance.

You sound like a wee little 1st grader who refuses to do his times table. Oh dear.

 

[Hollie]

Actually, the first thing you zealots want is an opportunity to force your religious beliefs into the public schools. The entire false and contrived "teach the controversy" nonsense is being furthered by fundamentalist Christian creation ministries.

Sorry to disappoint you but human ancestry does derive from a version of the "apes" you describe although your understanding of our biological history is as ignorant and useless as the typical zealot.

You can't prove that ridiculous claim and you call me the zealot? And no, Christians don't want ANY religion taught in school, including the religion of evolution. You are NOT our children's parents.

Yes we can demonstrate the claim exactly through genetics, fossils, anatomy, morphology, physiology, and cladistics. And your claim that it isn't true is via what evidence, exactly? Please be specific.

I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right, and on that you fail miserably.

Your denial of the many sciences that contribute to the facts of evolution entitles you to wear the badge of religious extremist.

Revel in your ignorance. Your YEC'ist beliefs will get you a reduced rate for joining the Flat Earth Society.

My position has nothing to do with religion, it has to do with you not being able to prove the claim you think you have the right to force down everyone else's throat. And your "flat earth" comment doesn't help with your credibility. It only speaks to your lack of substance.

There is ample proof for biological evolution. That proof being in conflict with your extremist beliefs causes you an irreconcilable dilemma versus your YEC'ist beliefs.

Denial and invented conspiracy theories won't help you.

 

[S.J.]

Wrong, idiot. The last thing Christians want is for some fucking atheist liberal teaching our kids about God. Neither do we want you fucktards teaching our kids that our ancestors were apes. Comprende, asshole?

Actually, the first thing you zealots want is an opportunity to force your religious beliefs into the public schools. The entire false and contrived "teach the controversy" nonsense is being furthered by fundamentalist Christian creation ministries.

Sorry to disappoint you but human ancestry does derive from a version of the "apes" you describe although your understanding of our biological history is as ignorant and useless as the typical zealot.

You can't prove that ridiculous claim and you call me the zealot? And no, Christians don't want ANY religion taught in school, including the religion of evolution. You are NOT our children's parents.

Yes we can demonstrate the claim exactly through genetics, fossils, anatomy, morphology, physiology, and cladistics. And your claim that it isn't true is via what evidence, exactly? Please be specific.

I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right, and on that you fail miserably.

Actually, you do. Why? Because the theory of evolution is the accepted paradigm for the origin of the diversity of life on Earth. So let's discuss who has the burden of proof, shall we:

Seismic FAQ - Main Page

8. Burden of Proof
Who has to prove what to whom? The person making the extraordinary claim has the burden of proving to the experts and to the community at large that his or her belief has more validity than the one almost everyone else accepts. You have to lobby for your opinion to be heard. Then you have to marshal experts on your side so you can convince the majority to support your claim over the one they have always supported. Finally, when you are in the majority, the burden of proof switches to the outsider who wants to challenge you with his or her unusual claim. Evolutionists had the burden of proof for half a century after Darwin, but now the burden of proof is on creationists. It is up to creationists to show why the theory of evolution is wrong and why creationism is right, and it is not up to the evolutionists to defend evolution. The burden of proof is on the Holocaust deniers to prove the Holocaust did not happen, not on Holocaust historians to prove that it did. The rationale for this is that mountains of evidence prove that both evolution and the Holocaust are facts. In other words, it is not enough to have the evidence. You must convince others of the validity of your evidence. And when you are an outsider this is the price you pay, regardless of whether you are right or wrong.

Your only argument is that other arrogant and self-proclaimed intellectuals agree with your theory. The one thing you all have in common is that you keep failing to prove anything you claim.

 

[orogenicman]

Actually, the first thing you zealots want is an opportunity to force your religious beliefs into the public schools. The entire false and contrived "teach the controversy" nonsense is being furthered by fundamentalist Christian creation ministries.

Sorry to disappoint you but human ancestry does derive from a version of the "apes" you describe although your understanding of our biological history is as ignorant and useless as the typical zealot.

You can't prove that ridiculous claim and you call me the zealot? And no, Christians don't want ANY religion taught in school, including the religion of evolution. You are NOT our children's parents.

Yes we can demonstrate the claim exactly through genetics, fossils, anatomy, morphology, physiology, and cladistics. And your claim that it isn't true is via what evidence, exactly? Please be specific.

I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right, and on that you fail miserably.

Actually, you do. Why? Because the theory of evolution is the accepted paradigm for the origin of the diversity of life on Earth. So let's discuss who has the burden of proof, shall we:

Seismic FAQ - Main Page

8. Burden of Proof
Who has to prove what to whom? The person making the extraordinary claim has the burden of proving to the experts and to the community at large that his or her belief has more validity than the one almost everyone else accepts. You have to lobby for your opinion to be heard. Then you have to marshal experts on your side so you can convince the majority to support your claim over the one they have always supported. Finally, when you are in the majority, the burden of proof switches to the outsider who wants to challenge you with his or her unusual claim. Evolutionists had the burden of proof for half a century after Darwin, but now the burden of proof is on creationists. It is up to creationists to show why the theory of evolution is wrong and why creationism is right, and it is not up to the evolutionists to defend evolution. The burden of proof is on the Holocaust deniers to prove the Holocaust did not happen, not on Holocaust historians to prove that it did. The rationale for this is that mountains of evidence prove that both evolution and the Holocaust are facts. In other words, it is not enough to have the evidence. You must convince others of the validity of your evidence. And when you are an outsider this is the price you pay, regardless of whether you are right or wrong.

Your only argument is that other arrogant and self-proclaimed intellectuals agree with your theory. The one thing you all have in common is that you keep failing to prove anything you claim.

Oh poor you. Did your mother drop you on your head as a child, or did that happen later in your life?

 

[S.J.]

You can't prove that ridiculous claim and you call me the zealot? And no, Christians don't want ANY religion taught in school, including the religion of evolution. You are NOT our children's parents.

Yes we can demonstrate the claim exactly through genetics, fossils, anatomy, morphology, physiology, and cladistics. And your claim that it isn't true is via what evidence, exactly? Please be specific.

I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right, and on that you fail miserably.

Your denial of the many sciences that contribute to the facts of evolution entitles you to wear the badge of religious extremist.

Revel in your ignorance. Your YEC'ist beliefs will get you a reduced rate for joining the Flat Earth Society.

My position has nothing to do with religion,

Liar.

it has to do with you not being able to prove the claim you think you have the right to force down everyone else's throat. And your "flat earth" comment doesn't help with your credibility. It only speaks to your lack of substance.

You sound like a wee little 1st grader who refuses to do his times table. Oh dear.

And that comment helps to prove your theory, how?

 

[S.J.]

You can't prove that ridiculous claim and you call me the zealot? And no, Christians don't want ANY religion taught in school, including the religion of evolution. You are NOT our children's parents.

Yes we can demonstrate the claim exactly through genetics, fossils, anatomy, morphology, physiology, and cladistics. And your claim that it isn't true is via what evidence, exactly? Please be specific.

I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right, and on that you fail miserably.

Actually, you do. Why? Because the theory of evolution is the accepted paradigm for the origin of the diversity of life on Earth. So let's discuss who has the burden of proof, shall we:

Seismic FAQ - Main Page

8. Burden of Proof
Who has to prove what to whom? The person making the extraordinary claim has the burden of proving to the experts and to the community at large that his or her belief has more validity than the one almost everyone else accepts. You have to lobby for your opinion to be heard. Then you have to marshal experts on your side so you can convince the majority to support your claim over the one they have always supported. Finally, when you are in the majority, the burden of proof switches to the outsider who wants to challenge you with his or her unusual claim. Evolutionists had the burden of proof for half a century after Darwin, but now the burden of proof is on creationists. It is up to creationists to show why the theory of evolution is wrong and why creationism is right, and it is not up to the evolutionists to defend evolution. The burden of proof is on the Holocaust deniers to prove the Holocaust did not happen, not on Holocaust historians to prove that it did. The rationale for this is that mountains of evidence prove that both evolution and the Holocaust are facts. In other words, it is not enough to have the evidence. You must convince others of the validity of your evidence. And when you are an outsider this is the price you pay, regardless of whether you are right or wrong.

Your only argument is that other arrogant and self-proclaimed intellectuals agree with your theory. The one thing you all have in common is that you keep failing to prove anything you claim.

Oh poor you. Did your mother drop you on your head as a child, or did that happen later in your life?

Your argument is rapidly deteriorating into flinging shit. Can't you people debate like adults?

 

[S.J.]

You can't prove that ridiculous claim and you call me the zealot? And no, Christians don't want ANY religion taught in school, including the religion of evolution. You are NOT our children's parents.

Yes we can demonstrate the claim exactly through genetics, fossils, anatomy, morphology, physiology, and cladistics. And your claim that it isn't true is via what evidence, exactly? Please be specific.

I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right, and on that you fail miserably.

Your denial of the many sciences that contribute to the facts of evolution entitles you to wear the badge of religious extremist.

Revel in your ignorance. Your YEC'ist beliefs will get you a reduced rate for joining the Flat Earth Society.

My position has nothing to do with religion, it has to do with you not being able to prove the claim you think you have the right to force down everyone else's throat. And your "flat earth" comment doesn't help with your credibility. It only speaks to your lack of substance.

There is ample proof for biological evolution. That proof being in conflict with your extremist beliefs causes you an irreconcilable dilemma versus your YEC'ist beliefs.

Denial and invented conspiracy theories won't help you.

I see you're relying more and more on attacking religion and less and less on making your case for evolution.

 

[orogenicman]

Yes we can demonstrate the claim exactly through genetics, fossils, anatomy, morphology, physiology, and cladistics. And your claim that it isn't true is via what evidence, exactly? Please be specific.

I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right, and on that you fail miserably.

Your denial of the many sciences that contribute to the facts of evolution entitles you to wear the badge of religious extremist.

Revel in your ignorance. Your YEC'ist beliefs will get you a reduced rate for joining the Flat Earth Society.

My position has nothing to do with religion,

Liar.

it has to do with you not being able to prove the claim you think you have the right to force down everyone else's throat. And your "flat earth" comment doesn't help with your credibility. It only speaks to your lack of substance.

You sound like a wee little 1st grader who refuses to do his times table. Oh dear.

And that comment helps to prove your theory, how?

It proves you sound like a wee 1st grader who refuses to do his times table.