Zone1 Where does it say in the Bible only adults can be baptized?

[ding]

Ya think that the original purpose of Baptism was control population growth?

No. It was just a comment.

 

[irosie91]

No. It was just a comment.

it's ok, no cosmic harm

 

[ding]

it's ok, no cosmic harm

Only time will tell.

 

[kjw47]

Again, Protestants are ignorant and wallowing in heresy, knowingly or otherwise. You seem to assume here that Jesus NEEDED to be baptized! What original sin did HE have?

But then I believe you are JW and if you are, you are in one of the worst and most heretical sects of all

Its as simple as pie to expose Catholicism as false, out of their own corrupt translating.

 

[ding]

Its as simple as pie to expose Catholicism as false, out of their own corrupt translating.

2 Timothy 2:23-26, 2 Timothy 2:14, Matthew 12:25, Matthew 18:15-16, Romans 14:1-23, Romans 16:17-18, 1 Corinthians 3:3, 1 Corinthians 13:1-2, 1 John 4:20-21, Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 28:25, Galatians 5:15, Galatians 5:19-21, Titus 3:10, Jude 1:19, Ephesians 4:3-6, Ephesians 4:31-32, Colossians 3:12-14, 1 Corinthians 12:25, 1 Peter 3:8, Philippians 2:1-2, John 17:20-23, Mark 3:24-25, Luke 11:17 and James 3:16.

 

[kjw47]

2 Timothy 2:23-26, 2 Timothy 2:14, Matthew 12:25, Matthew 18:15-16, Romans 14:1-23, Romans 16:17-18, 1 Corinthians 3:3, 1 Corinthians 13:1-2, 1 John 4:20-21, Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 28:25, Galatians 5:15, Galatians 5:19-21, Titus 3:10, Jude 1:19, Ephesians 4:3-6, Ephesians 4:31-32, Colossians 3:12-14, 1 Corinthians 12:25, 1 Peter 3:8, Philippians 2:1-2, John 17:20-23, Mark 3:24-25, Luke 11:17 and James 3:16.

And you are trying to say?

 

[Meriweather]

And you are trying to say?

Read through even just a few of those Bible verses. They advise against sowing discord.

 

[buttercup]

Read through even just a few of those Bible verses. They advise against sowing discord.

Fork should read them.

 

[kjw47]

Read through even just a few of those Bible verses. They advise against sowing discord.

Gods word is clear--Expose the darkness- Ephesians 5:11

 

[Meriweather]

Gods word is clear--Expose the darkness- Ephesians 5:11

Continue reading. It says bring light into the dark. Sowing discord only deepens darkness. Bring the light of the Good News.

 

[ding]

And you are trying to say?

You tell me.

 

[kjw47]

Continue reading. It says bring light into the dark. Sowing discord only deepens darkness. Bring the light of the Good News.

I started a thread in 4 different sights recently about the good news of Gods kingdom. I asked followers of Jesus to share a bible truth about the good news. Out of all 4 sights i got 1 answer-The rest know nothing about the good news-Why? 745 reads in one sight-0 answers. The good news of Gods kingdom is the message taught in these last days=worldwide,( Matt 24:14) thus Jesus' one real religion teaches all the good news, thus every true follower knows what the bible teaches about the good news and what Gods kingdom will accomplish for all of creation. The bible is filled with teachings on it. Those who do not know them are being lead by blind guides.

 

[onefour1]

Where does it say in the Bible only adults can be baptized?​

It doesn't because even though the atonement of Christ covers original sin and nobody is born guilty of sin, children can reach an age of accountability before growing into full grown adults. Little babies are not capable of sinning but as they age children begin to understand the difference between right and wrong. It is at the age of accountability that children should be baptized. In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, little children become accountable at the age of 8 years old.

Doctrine and Covenants 68:25-27
25 And again, inasmuch as parents have children in Zion, or in any of her stakes which are organized, that teach them not to understand the doctrine of repentance, faith in Christ the Son of the living God, and of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of the hands, when eight years old, the sin be upon the heads of the parents.
26 For this shall be a law unto the inhabitants of Zion, or in any of her stakes which are organized.
27 And their children shall be baptized for the remission of their sins when eight years old, and receive the laying on of the hands.

 

[ding]

Fork should read them.

Yes. Everyone should, but especially him. He does much damage to Christianity.

 

[hobelim]

Continue reading. It says bring light into the dark. Sowing discord only deepens darkness. Bring the light of the Good News.

"Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on, five in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law."
Luke 12:52,53

This quote of Jesus is a reference to the creation story where God creates light, spoken into existence, to divide the day from the night. The light being his revelation about the figurative language and consequently the deeper implications of the Law given as a "light to the nations."

What you do at mass is a brazen defiance of both the literal and figurative meanings of the Law.

Now is the parting of the sheep from the goats. The difference between good and evil is clear.

Pick a side already. There is no longer any excuse for you being paralyzed by memorial bondage.

 

[hobelim]

Interesting concept. It just goes to prove that the greater light and the spirit of the law give you a better chance today because that is what we are under as far as the Law of Christ.

Right,

The Spirit of Kosher law is to stand guard over the purity of your own mind by choosing between clean and unclean teaching of people who by their attributes resemble every creature in nature.

Remember? "Its not what goes into the mouth that defiles. Its what comes out of it", so, according to the Law of Christ, how would you sacrifice a he-goat "without blemish" for the expiation of sin?

Take your time. If you don't know, just ask.

 

[Cougarbear]

Right,

The Spirit of Kosher law is to stand guard over the purity of your own mind by choosing between clean and unclean teaching of people who by their attributes resemble every creature in nature.

Remember? "Its not what goes into the mouth that defiles. Its what comes out of it", so, according to the Law of Christ, how would you sacrifice a he-goat "without blemish" for the expiation of sin?

Take your time. If you don't know, just ask.

First, you cannot condemn those under the times of Moses by the law of Christ or by the teachings of today and how Jews teach today.
With that in mind, the concept of sacrificing the first born child animal was a similitude of the future final atonement of the sinless first born of Heavenly Father in the flesh. And that similitude did not start with Moses. Abraham was taught this the hard way as even the people in his day lost meaning of their animal sacrifices.

 

[hobelim]

First, you cannot condemn those under the times of Moses by the law of Christ or by the teachings of today and how Jews teach today.

I have not condemned anyone. I have openly revealed the way that both Jesus and Moses originally taught to follow the Law that fulfills the promise of eternal life here and now on earth.

So kill me... lol

With that in mind, the concept of sacrificing the first born child animal was a similitude of the future final atonement of the sinless first born of Heavenly Father in the flesh.

God never became a man. Jesus, a man, was killed for sedition by teaching the right way to follow the Law which condemns narcissists, (Gen 3:14), swine THAT DO NOT RUMINATE, dogs, worms, vultures, teeming vermin that go down on all fours, etc, not to atone for anyone else's sins but to show the only right way to slaughter fat beasts in compliance with the Laws of ritual slaughter.

Abraham was taught this the hard way as even the people in his day lost meaning of their animal sacrifices.

Lost the meaning of animal sacrifice? WTF! There never was any meaning to animal sacrifice. Its about as meaningful and effective as praying to the moon, or seeking spiritual life from a matzo.

It was and still is just a con. Kill a goat, for a price, and your sins are forgiven? How stupid is that?

So if animal sacrifice is wrong, "But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” how much more wrong is it to participate in celebrating the crucifixion of Jesus, a human, whether symbolic or otherwise? Its reprehensible.

So, think! How much even more fucked up is it to celebrate the sacrificial death of your God if you believe that he became a man, Jesus, so that you can avoid accountability for your own sins?

How satanic is that, to believe that God died so you can sin with impunity for life?? What a rube!
Didn't you ever learn the lessons taught in the fairy tale of A&E and the talking serpent in Eden?

Not for nothing sweetie, but you really need to go back to the drawing board, if you hope to live.

 

[Cougarbear]

I have not condemned anyone. I have openly revealed the way that both Jesus and Moses originally taught to follow the Law that fulfills the promise of eternal life here and now on earth.

So kill me... lol



God never became a man. Jesus, a man, was killed for sedition by teaching the right way to follow the law which condemns narcissists and con artists, not as an atonement for anyone else's sins , but to show the right way to slaughter beasts in compliance with the Laws of ritual slaughter.




If animal sacrifice is wrong, " But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” how much more wrong is it to participate in celebrating the sacrifice of Jesus, a human, whether symbolic or otherwise? Its reprehensible.

So, think, how much more fucked up is it to celebrate the sacrificial death of your God if you believe that he became a man, Jesus, so that you can avoid accountability for your own sins?

How satanic is that, to believe that God died so you can sin with impunity for life. What a rube!

I see that you are very limited in your reading, comprehension and understanding. You come to debate without seeking understanding and personal growth. James calls it “a doublemind.”

I have several writings that I use for understanding Genesis. Some of which are cannonized by my Church. Some are not but bring insight to who the Godhead are and the beginning of the universe. I’m not in a position to spend all my time reading all this, studying out like scholars have that kind of time. So, I use scholars that have spend decades studying these writings. I then pray about what I read before, during and after I do as much ready and studying as I can with an open mind. I even look at your perspective as well.

I never condemned you. I gave my understanding from the above perspective. I certainly cannot agree with your perspective of who and what Jesus Christ is from my studies and answers to my prayers. My conclusion is that a body was prepared for Jehovah with the egg of Mary (human) and the seed of the Father (god through en vitro fertilization by the Holy Ghost) to form a spiritual sinless human being that would be the final atonement or sacrifice so that if we accept Jesus Christ as our personal savior and redeemer, our sins can be washed away and forgiven forever. And that comes with specific laws and ordinances as well like repentance, restitution, baptism by water and the spirit, continuous remembrance of Jesus sacrifice with the Sacraments, and continuous repentance for daily sins however small or big they are.

If you want to be your own god and savior, go ahead and try. See how far that gets you. From your condemnation post, not too far with following the Savior’s examples.

 

[hobelim]

I see that you are very limited in your reading, comprehension and understanding. You come to debate without seeking understanding and personal growth.

Thanks for helping me to show the wisdom of God in giving the command to refrain from the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate and for so generously demonstration for all to see the terrifying and deeply disturbing death, a curse, for failing to comply with Divine instruction.

Well done!

Now run along. Oinker.