Where do you rank the French military

About two floors below the Ukraine military. We had to bail the French out in WWII too.
Eventually yes however during the initial phase of Operation Torch the Vichy French in North Africa who actually fought against us just about kicked our ass. It was General Juin who convinced his superior in North Africa Admiral Darlan to order the French troops to lay down their arms. That was when the fighting stopped and we were able to secure the heavily defended objectives denied to us by the French troops. Matter of fact it was Juin and the French forces in Italy that substantially attributed to the fall of the Gustav Line.
 
Eventually yes however during the initial phase of Operation Torch the Vichy French in North Africa who actually fought against us just about kicked our ass. It was General Juin who convinced his superior in North Africa Admiral Darlan to order the French troops to lay down their arms. That was when the fighting stopped and we were able to secure the heavily defended objectives denied to us by the French troops. Matter of fact it was Juin and the French forces in Italy that substantially attributed to the fall of the Gustav Line.
Funny how histories can vary.

For the Allies the Vichy French resistance was a mere inconvenience and not a real military problem. Patton's main target was the capture of Casablanca, the city was captured on November 10th when he took the city without resistance, just two days into Operation Torch a major objective was already accomplished.
 
Funny how histories can vary.

For the Allies the Vichy French resistance was a mere inconvenience and not a real military problem. Patton's main target was the capture of Casablanca, the city was captured on November 10th when he took the city without resistance, just two days into Operation Torch a major objective was already accomplished.
True. But in reality most of our troops at that stage were primarily an armed mob looking to become an army. If you want an in depth historical account read Rick Atkinson's An Army at Dawn.
 
True. But in reality most of our troops at that stage were primarily an armed mob looking to become an army. If you want an in depth historical account read Rick Atkinson's An Army at Dawn.
Mob warfare must be particularly vicious.

Operation Torch cost the Allies around 480 killed and 720 wounded. French losses totaled around 1,346 killed and 1,997 wounded. As a result of Operation Torch, Adolf Hitler ordered Operation Anton, which saw German troops occupy Vichy France.
 
Mob warfare must be particularly vicious.

Operation Torch cost the Allies around 480 killed and 720 wounded. French losses totaled around 1,346 killed and 1,997 wounded. As a result of Operation Torch, Adolf Hitler ordered Operation Anton, which saw German troops occupy Vichy France.
You're focused on the generic not the specifics. I specifically stated that "where the Vichy French resisted", I did not say all the Vichy French resisted. It was piecemeal. Focusing on the "we came, we saw, we kicked ass" propagandized BS doesn't teach the whole history, in fact it omits much of it.
 
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USA is clearly the best and now we know that Russia is a joke. Russia not even in the top 5

Would you say France is the second best military around or China. Maybe its Israel

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On a battlefield I would not want to fight Israel or India in the Air or on the ground seeing they are consider very tough and so is Australia…

France like England live off their former greatness but let be clear they could really do much in today time, well that is my opinion and never fight the Japanese!

China is like Russia and is a paper Tiger even though they have enough people to overrun you with…
 
I don’t think China could defeat France
Their Parade Ground Is Nothing But a Playground

Look at the shoddy products from the Chinkies' sweatshops. Their army can't be much better. In the Korean War, they had 400,000 dead, more than we even had serving there.

So an alliance of Pacific nations, excluding the US, could wreck the Chinese clown-car fire drill.
 
Where do you rank the French military

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Israel has amazing assassination hit squads
Kind of reminds of the 1930s with Murder INC
 

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