What's your opinion on Women in Combat?

[danielpalos]

Are you supportive of it or against it? Can you give me reasons why you support it or why you do not support it?

Currently, Only in science fiction can women wear miniskirts and miniguns, at the same time. However, I have heard of a "special battalion" of women, taking up Arms, and bailing their men out, in the historical record.

 

[Sunni Man]

As long as they can pass the SAME tests the men do, I have no problem with it.

That's the idea.

I attended the graduation ceremony of an Army basic training soldier at Ft Jackson.

Come to find out, the physical fitness requirements are scored different for male and female soldiers in order pass the test.

Male soldiers had to complete 35 push-up's.....while females only had to do 13

Male soldiers must run 2 miles in 16.36 minutes or less. Whereas, female soldiers are allowed 19.32 minutes.

Male soldiers must complete 6+ chin-up's

Female soldiers just have to hang by their arms for 15 seconds to receive a passing score. (not even 1 single chin-up is required

Yet both male and female soldier receive the same pay. .......

 

[OldLady]

I should think a woman soldier's physiology would still allow her to take an active role in some capacity?

 

[TNHarley]

I should think a woman soldier's physiology would still allow her to take an active role in some capacity?

vacuuming the mess hall?

 

[Sunni Man]

I should think a woman soldier's physiology would still allow her to take an active role in some capacity?

Office clerk, nurse, or cook. ......

 

[OldLady]

You hearin' all this, Drifter?
Hopefully they're just yankin' my chain, but you never know.

 

[TNHarley]

You hearin' all this, Drifter?
Hopefully they're just yankin' my chain, but you never know.

 

[SeaGal]

Are you supportive of it or against it? Can you give me reasons why you support it or why you do not support it?

Yes to the draft. Yes to combat...with a caveat. No easing of physical requirements. She must be able to hold her own, keep up and help her teammates if necessary.

Never been in combat but I'm pretty sure it's a little more physically demanding than just pulling a trigger. Another thing - American men are still pretty chivalrous - it would be tragic if lives were lost because of a misplaced sense of 'chivalry'.

My youngest son is a firefighter - women are welcome in the ranks of firefighters. That's fine, I have a daughter too. However, I want to know that my son's partner is physically able to carry his 200+lb frame out of harms way if need be. Likely that a combat soldiers mom feels the same way. So I am deadly serious when I say - no allowances made with physical requirements for strength and stamina.

 

[Michelle420]

You hearin' all this, Drifter?
Hopefully they're just yankin' my chain, but you never know.

I'm noting it all.

 

[Sunni Man]

Anyone who thinks that women should be in combat role's in the military.
Needs to watch a few videos of Medal of Honor recipients telling their personal stories of the events leading to their nomination for the medal. There are dozens of them on YouTube, from WWll up to present day.

Hopefully watching them will cure bleeding heart liberals of their PC social engineering fantasy world when they hear the reality of combat. ......

MOH real life Rambo

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Until you have a spike in pregnancies or the ones who decide to get pregnant to get out of combat. The accommodations in the field for initial combat units are not the Ritz. I guarantee you will see a jump in sexual harassment cases. Time better spent on combat training will be taken up by sexual harassment training. Wait until the first female POW happens. The current enemies of the US are not going to follow the Geneva Convention.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

As long as they can pass the SAME tests the men do, I have no problem with it.

That's the problem those tests are not Combat. The Marine Corp has already done studies on this. Integrated units got their asses handed to them by all male ones and those where training exercises. Imagine what would happen in actual Combat.

 

[jon_berzerk]

as long as she is willing and capable of ripping the guts out of the enemy

so be it

 

[Damaged Eagle]

I remember the first time we pulled into Haifa Israel. I got a bit lost (this was back in the early 80's), and saw a good looking woman who was wearing a duster style jacket. When I asked her for directions, she said she knew where I wanted to go and pointed towards the place. Her jacket fell open, and I saw a really nasty looking Uzi hanging from her shoulder under her jacket.

I got the directions and boogied. Didn't want to take a chance on pissing off a good looking woman with a machine pistol.

One doesn't tend to turn down an Israeli female in cameos with a Uzi under her arm when she approaches you and asks if you're married, what your name is, what command, then tells you that she'll be by to pick you up for a night of dinner, dancing, and what not, at seven that evening.

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[petro]

I am for it. My gal was Army and has a tougher mentality than a lot of male pussies out there. There are some tough women out there which also puts a fear and message to our ISIS friends that you could be ended by a female.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

So what I'm seeing is that some people don't like the idea of women in combat and feel they should be restricted to lesser supportive positions because of their femininity.

A cage is still a cage no matter how you dress it up.

*****SMILE*****

 

[jon_berzerk]

“There were once women in Denmark who dressed themselves to look like men and spent almost every minute cultivating soldiers’ skills. …They courted military celebrity so earnestly that you would have guessed they had unsexed themselves. Those especially who had forceful personalities or were tall and elegant embarked on this way of life. As if they were forgetful of their true selves they put toughness before allure, aimed at conflicts instead of kisses, tasted blood, not lips, sought the clash of arms rather than the arm’s embrace, fitted to weapons hands which should have been weaving, desired not the couch but the kill"- Saxo Grammaticus Danish historian

 

[Zoom-boing]

If they can pass all the men's tests, then go for it.

No lowering the bar on ANYTHING just so they pass.

 

[OldLady]

Until you have a spike in pregnancies or the ones who decide to get pregnant to get out of combat. The accommodations in the field for initial combat units are not the Ritz. I guarantee you will see a jump in sexual harassment cases. Time better spent on combat training will be taken up by sexual harassment training. Wait until the first female POW happens. The current enemies of the US are not going to follow the Geneva Convention.

Not to you in particular, but why is it that some people immediately jump to the questions of pregnancy and rape when asked about women in combat? When a person is contemplating combat there are lots of bad outcomes to contemplate --being shot, blown to bits, beheaded or tortured come to mind. Why is rape or the complication of pregnancy the foremost thing that some people think of? Because they are still stuck on thinking of women as walking sex objects. That's fundamentally all women are good for, in some people's minds. And if you are saying NO NO I don't think that, ask yourself why rape and pregnancy are the first things you think of when asked about women in the military.

 

[TNHarley]

Until you have a spike in pregnancies or the ones who decide to get pregnant to get out of combat. The accommodations in the field for initial combat units are not the Ritz. I guarantee you will see a jump in sexual harassment cases. Time better spent on combat training will be taken up by sexual harassment training. Wait until the first female POW happens. The current enemies of the US are not going to follow the Geneva Convention.

Not to you in particular, but why is it that some people immediately jump to the questions of pregnancy and rape when asked about women in combat? When a person is contemplating combat there are lots of bad outcomes to contemplate --being shot, blown to bits, beheaded or tortured come to mind. Why is rape or the complication of pregnancy the foremost thing that some people think of? Because they are still stuck on thinking of women as walking sex objects. That's fundamentally all women are good for, in some people's minds. And if you are saying NO NO I don't think that, ask yourself why rape and pregnancy are the first things you think of when asked about women in the military.

I see both points..
Getting pregannt while on tour? POWs getting pregnant?