The 15th amendment: How does it apply to arguments over whether voting is a right or a privilege?

[Dante]

Somebody I am acquainted with posed a question. That question was - if one supports a national voter list, do they also support a national gun registry, and if not, why? I see people jumping through hoops on this one, performing gymnastics feats that are trumpian in nature.

So, it got me thinking: What do people believe the 15th amendment is all about? What sources (if any at all), do people use to from their opinions?

 

[Concerned American]

Somebody I am acquainted with posed a question. That question was - if one supports a national voter list, do they also support a national gun registry, and if not, why? I see people jumping through hoops on this one, performing gymnastics feats that are trumpian in nature.

So, it got me thinking: What do people believe the 15th amendment is all about? What sources (if any at all), do people use to from their opinions?

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Read the first ten words after "Section 1." Totally contrary to democrat desires.

 

[HikerGuy83]

So, it got me thinking:

Maybe for the first time in your pathetic life......

But thanks for posting this.

The question in my mind is whether it just applies to federal elections.

 

[Dante]

Read the first ten words after "Section 1." Totally contrary to democrat desires.

Not sure what world or dimension you're posting from...

The question in my mind is whether it just applies to federal elections.

That's a nonsensical thought: You need help here?

"shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State"

It's a federal law. It applies to ALL elections within the USA.

 

[Concerned American]

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Not sure what world or dimension you're posting from...


That's a nonsensical thought: You need help here?

"shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State"

It's a federal law. It applies to ALL elections within the USA.

Apparently English isn't your first language. Clearly you didn't read the first ten words.

 

[HikerGuy83]

It's a federal law. It applies to ALL elections within the USA.

It's not a law.

It's an amendment.

It should support all laws. And yet, we don't seem to behave that way.

 

[Dante]

Apparently English isn't your first language. Clearly you didn't read the first ten words.

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not (12 words)

 

[Dante]

It's not a law.

It's an amendment.

It should support all laws. And yet, we don't seem to behave that way.

Amendments are not "law?"

PLEASE! SOMEBODY NOTIFY THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES.
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Now, one of the few times I had to put somebody on an IGNORE LIST (it shall remain temporary, but what a dufus troll this turd is)

 

[HikerGuy83]

Amendments are not "law?"

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Now, one of the few times I had to put somebody on an IGNORE LIST (it shall remain temporary, but what a dufus troll this turd is)

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The justices already know.

Read the First....it tells congress what laws it can't make.

Read the Ninth....how is that a "law"

Read the Tenth.....how is that a "law".

The explanation will help you out.

Hopefully, you quit listening to ChatGPT for your knowledge.....

Please don't take me off ignore. I can't help but waste time responding to your ridiculously stupid attempts to sound like a smart human being.

 

[Dante]

Somebody I am acquainted with posed a question. That question was - if one supports a national voter list, do they also support a national gun registry, and if not, why? I see people jumping through hoops on this one, performing gymnastics feats that are trumpian in nature.

So, it got me thinking: What do people believe the 15th amendment is all about? What sources (if any at all), do people use to from their opinions?

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15th

It's the law.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

The 15th was passed as a feel good moment; the Grant administration refused to enforce it and so did Congress. The politically connected carpetbaggers who were given the southern plantations for chump change found out they couldn't make any money with cotton prices depressed and 'free' blacks refusing to work for nothing and preferred subsistence farming, so it wasn't long before they were sniveling and complaining about how lazy and incompetent they were and screaming for the govt. to honor their rights to cheap labor same as most other industries were. It was a dead letter before it was even passed in 1869. No big financial bloc had any interest in it. It also didn't forbid literacy tests, property requirements, or education tests.

 

[Dante]

The 15th was passed as a feel good moment...

wtf does that even mean given the constitutional context?

take a break and go rest

 

[EdwinAMartin]

wtf does that even mean given the constitutional context?

take a break and go rest

Read a real history book. Grant refused to enforce it, and the 'Reconstruction' farce was dropped by 1867. Not that you know anything about it.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Read the first ten words after "Section 1." Totally contrary to democrat desires.

The Constitution is a republican document, bub.

 

[Concerned American]

The Constitution is a republican document, bub.

Yeah. So? Please post relevant, on topic responses or be reported noob.

 

[White 6]

It's not a law.

It's an amendment.

It should support all laws. And yet, we don't seem to behave that way.

Yes it is law, once it has been ratified.

 

[Dante]

Read a real history book. Grant refused to enforce it, and the 'Reconstruction' farce was dropped by 1867. Not that you know anything about it.

I believe you are weird

 

[jacksonlamb]

Check what federal troops and Union state troops did from 1866 to 1875. You are ignorant on this subject.

Read a real history book. Grant refused to enforce it, and the 'Reconstruction' farce was dropped by 1867. Not that you know anything about it.

Dante: I believe you are weird

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Check what federal troops and Union state troops did from 1866 to 1875. You are ignorant on this subject.


Dante: I believe you are weird

Oh, I have, several in fact. Obviously you haven't.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

I believe you are weird

Yes, sane people are very strange to you left wing deviants. Nobody will argue against that.