The 15th amendment: How does it apply to arguments over whether voting is a right or a privilege?

[jacksonlamb]

Oh, I have, several in fact. Obviously you haven't.

No, you have not. Because did not abandon them in 1868. He did not take office until the following year. It was the administration of Hayes' eight years later that did that.

You drew pictures of flowers that were not pretty in class, yes.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

No, you have not. Because did not abandon them in 1868. He did not take office until the following year. It was the administration of Hayes' eight years later that did that.

You drew pictures of flowers that were not pretty in class, yes.

You don't know when the 15th was passed, do you dumbass? prior to that, the Feds began defunding the Freedman's Bureau, and generally abandoning the southern states. Being stupid, you probably just suck up the usual propaganda from the Lincoln Myth and other fake news.

Those in the PEanut Gallery with a serious interest in the history can find copies of Ordeal By Fire ...

Ordeal by fire : the Civil War and Reconstruction : McPherson, James M : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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... and even better history, Reconstruction: America's Unfinished Revolution: 1863-1877:

Review of Foner, Eric. Reconstruction Updated Edition: America's Unfinished Revolution, 1863-18. Harper Perennial Modern Classics

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Don't rely on commie distortions and idiot parrots like 'Jackson' here. And yes, ladies and germs, 'Reconstruction' began in 1863, not after the war, and it began with 'contraband camps' where hundreds of thousands of 'free blacks' were forced to endure starvation and disease as bad or worse as any Civil War prison camp as the North exported record crops to Europe and made sure not many blacks set foot in northern states.

Those who were forced to work on the govt. plantations fared a little better, but not much. Lincoln declared them 'free' and paid them wages, about $2-$4 a month, in greenbacks, which amounted to about half of what the average southern plantation owner spent in subsistence for slaves, the latter about $60 a year, which also included medical care on top of subsistence.. They could not leave their 'free' plantations without written permissions from their new Yankee owners... err ....'employers ... or get thrown back into the prison camps pretending to be 'refugee aid stations'.

More stuff as well, re the carpetbaggers sent down to plunder the South began whining they couldn't make a profit off those lazy Negroes n stuff, and the abandoning of any pretense of black equality. Indeed the whole premise was abandoned long before the 15th, and afterwards Grant refused to enforce it.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Eddy, whataboutism works no more for you than any other conservative cuck incel.

You said Grant abandoned them in 1868. He was not President in 1868.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Eddy, whataboutism works no more for you than any other conservative cuck incel.

You said Grant abandoned them in 1868. He was not President in 1868.

Says some terrorist loving kiddie mutilating left winger on the innernetz. I said it was all a dead letter by 1867, and Grant refused to enforce it after it passed, and every legitimate historian says so too, gimp. And, I pointed out what it didn't do re civil rights. Now run along and wet another diaper and get some more instructions from the Hive. You didn't even know what year it was passed, so all you did here was break wind and pee yourself.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Says some terrorist loving kiddie mutilating left winger on the innernetz. I said it was all a dead letter by 1867, and Grant refused to enforce it after it passed, and every legitimate historian says so too, gimp. And, I pointed out what it didn't do re civil rights. Now run along and wet another diaper and get some more instructions from the Hive. You didn't even know what year it was passed, so all you did here was break wind and pee yourself.

You got mixed up and said it wrongly. That will not change. You are locked into your myth. What did Grant do after the Louisiana political massacre.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

You got mixed up and said it wrongly. That will not change. You are locked into your myth.

lol no, I didn't, you did.

What did Grant do after the Louisiana political massacre.

Lost support from his own Party and cut a deal to keep Democrats in control the Louisiana House, and did nothing to aid black suffrage. It was about keeping Republican control of the state, not concern for black people. The Federal troops failed to keep order.

Why? Didn't you know? Of course not. You just did some shallow Google Scholaring and thought you found a gotcha. Want to know more?

 

[jacksonlamb]

lol no, I didn't, you did.



Lost support from his own Party and cut a deal to keep Democrats in control the Louisiana House, and did nothing to aid black suffrage. It was about keeping Republican control of the state, not concern for black people. The Federal troops failed to keep order.

Why? Didn't you know? Of course not. You just did some shallow Google Scholaring and thought you found a gotcha. Want to know more?

It was the rise of the white Louisianians going bonkers at black voting and massacring them.

Thus, Grant flooded the state with Union troops to keep order.

Eddy, either you are lying or you are seriously mentally/emotionally disturbed.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

It was the rise of the white Louisianians going bonkers at black voting and massacring them.

Thus, Grant flooded the state with Union troops to keep order.

Eddy, either you are lying or you are seriously mentally/emotionally disturbed.

lol 2,000 troops in an entire state isn't a flood, and they failed; they couldn't even take control of one Parish. You don't know what you're talking about. Read a book, dumbass.

 

[jacksonlamb]

lol 2,000 troops in an entire state isn't a flood, and they failed; they couldn't even take control of one Parish. You don't know what you're talking about. Read a book, dumbass.

So you admit it, and, yes, it was a 'flood' enough to put down the insurrection.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

So you admit it, and, yes, it was a 'flood' enough to put down the insurrection.

lol no, it wasn't. You're just stupid, is all.